Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

[AndyD]

Because the VFL were offering money they didn’t have. The VFL was the strongest of the 3 big leagues which again everyone knows but it doesn’t change they were all top tier footy status. Population takes care of funding and depth of comp.
All 3 Grand Finals played on the same day, each State totally embraced their own state league GF and eventual premier. No one cared about some other comp thousands of miles away.

Based on what you are implying the EPL is 1st tier, and the German and Spanish leagues are second tier. Or are they all top tier leagues with one being stronger than another?

In 1970, as it is today, the biggest stage in all of Australian rules football was the MCG on the last Saturday in September and nothing else has ever come close

For the 1970 season the VFL averaged around 24k attendances across 6 games per week compared to the SANFL’s 9k with 5 games per week. Every VFL final in 1970 had over 100k in attendance with an average crowd of 111k for the 4 finals games. For comparison 2019 averaged 62k over 9 games, and only 120k more fans in total than 1970. The difference in population size argument only serves to point out how small Adelaide’s population was (under 900k in 1970) compared to Melbourne (around 2.4 million). 1970 was also the best attended year in WAFL history with an average attendances of 9k over 4 games per week during their H&A season. So on any given weekend in 1970, around 40k would attend WAFL games, 47k would attend SANFL games, and 144k would attend VFL games. Way more people in 1970 went to a VFL game instead of either a WAFL or SANFL game, so it makes sense that the VFL was seen as a bigger deal than the SANFL or WAFL, literally because so much more people saw the VFL compared to any other league.

This clearly gave the VFL a financial advantage no other state league could hope to match. To think that financial/attendance advantage has no impact on the relative quality of the different leagues is to ignore the obvious role money and the amount of people watching plays in sporting comps, even in less professional times. No other state league would have been able to expand into Victoria without an established VFL club joining their comp, and outside of one of the big 4 at the time, it wouldn’t really have made a financial difference on the remaining VFL clubs either way. The VFL on the other hand, were able to start up to brand new clubs from scratch that are still the dominant football clubs in those markets today and have been since pretty much the start. That plays a massive part in the lingering resentment and jealousy from other states towards Victoria, because the VFL’s incursions into their states killed their state leagues when they know the same wouldn’t have come close to happening if the SANFL/WAFL tried to do that. There is no doubting that high quality football was played by some of the best ever in those comps. But to say the strength of those competitions were even close is serious revisionist history.


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[The_Wookie]

It is an AFL approved guernsey.

not for this match.

They forbid wearing the guernsey during the game.

Id bet you thats match broadcast time, not siren to siren.

AFL can not give them a points penalty for wearing the wrong uniform outside of game time. Not unless it changes the rules.

Please show me where the AFl said anything about in game wear, and not wearing it at all outside heritage rounds. Not to mention that the AFl owns the rights to the jumper with the AFl logo on it, and literally said no to this.

Post game all bets are off. If St Kilda can lift the cup in an actual Collingwood guernsey we can sing the song in our own bloody jumper.

rules were vastly different in 1960. Specifically the franchise agreements in place would not exist for another 25 years.

Maybe something will happen, maybe nothing will.

 

[ibd77]

AFL can not give them a points penalty for wearing the wrong uniform outside of game time. Not unless it changes the rules.

AFL...hold my beer.
We know AFL invents rules on the fly.

 

[catters05]

not for this match.



Id bet you thats match broadcast time, not siren to siren.



Please show me where the AFl said anything about in game wear, and not wearing it at all outside heritage rounds. Not to mention that the AFl owns the rights to the jumper with the AFl logo on it, and literally said no to this.



rules were vastly different in 1960. Specifically the franchise agreements in place would not exist for another 25 years.

Maybe something will happen, maybe nothing will.

Will be interesting to see how the AFL and Eddie/Koch handle this week for sure.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Embarrassing guys. Imagine being so embarrassed by your club jumper you’d rather sing your song in your reserves top.

 

[Tim Evans Beard]

not for this game

That’s not what you wrote - stop try to walkback your AFL propaganda lies.

Id bet you thats match broadcast time, not siren to siren.

I’ll take that bet.

 

[LeoMessi]

Embarrassing guys. Imagine being so embarrassed by your club jumper you’d rather sing your song in your reserves top.

Coming from someone who supports a club with no history

 

[Demonic Ascent]

interesting week ahead, Ed probably already ringing Gil on the speed dial to start complaining.

Eddie is just a supporter now? If he is on the blower I'd be extremely pissed off if I was the new Collingwood pres

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

For a club so obsessed with history and heritage, it’s a damn insult Boak wins the “showdown” medal and not the Phil Walsh medal.

 

[catters05]

Eddie is just a supporter now? If he is on the blower I'd be extremely pissed off if I was the new Collingwood pres

That’s part of the problem, it’s Eddie pushing all this, threatening high court etc.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Coming from someone who supports a club with no history

We sing the song in the jumper we won flags in. No need for a dress change. Worse than Kylie Minogue you lot.

 

[The_Wookie]

That’s not what you wrote - stop try to walkback your AFL propaganda lies.

I didnt. The AFl expressly forbid the gurensey to be worn this weekend. It was not approved.

Ill have an opinion on whatever i damn well like. Thanks.

One things for sure, you can kiss goodbye to ever getting permission to wear it again,

 

[Demonic Ascent]

That’s part of the problem, it’s Eddie pushing all this, threatening high court etc.

He should be told by Gil to stfu and get back in his box then. Of course he won't because Gil is not a leader he's a dealmaker, wants to please everybody.

Pretty ballsy from Port to stick it to the AFL. I like it.

 

[Tim Evans Beard]

I didnt. The AFl expressly forbid the gurensey to be worn this weekend. It was not approved.

Ill have an opinion on whatever i damn well like. Thanks.

One things for sure, you can kiss goodbye to ever getting permission to wear it again,

The AFL denied the request to wear it as a match apparel - as was the request.

Your opinion is absolutely yours - just own it instead of walking it back when called out.

And now your ‘opinion’ is ‘for sure’.

 

[bomberclifford]

One things for sure, you can kiss goodbye to ever getting permission to wear it again,

You’re wrong.

 

[The_Wookie]

The AFL denied the request to wear it as a match apparel - as was the request.

Your opinion is absolutely yours - just own it instead of walking it back when called out.

And now your ‘opinion’ is ‘for sure’.

Havent walked back anything. I seem to be repeating myself for some goddamn reason. Board aint meant to be an echo chamber for your personal beliefs champ

 

[The_Wookie]

You’re wrong.

Cite something that says otherwise or jog on please.

 

[1990crow]

I reckon the AFL will strip the 4 points simply because the action was a middle finger to the AFL.
If it's one thing threats in this game to the governing body don't get you very far.

 

[bomberclifford]

Cite something that says otherwise or jog on please.

I say you’re wrong. You’re guessing.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Imagine Manchester City winning the Champions League this year, then changing tops to the strip they wore when they won the 2002 nationwide league in

 

[Waspy79]

Because Teal is one of your colours.

Wasn’t red and green part of Fremantle’s inaugural guernsey?

 

[The_Wookie]

I say you’re wrong. You’re guessing.

And i can only refer to the AFls remarks where they say they cant wear it outside Heritage rounds.

Your guessing too champ

I reckon the AFL will strip the 4 points simply because the action was a middle finger to the AFL.
If it's one thing threats in this game to the governing body don't get you very far.

I wouldnt want to be Port next time they ask to wear it.

 

[DazzaTys]

Embarrassing guys. Imagine being so embarrassed by your club jumper you’d rather sing your song in your reserves top.

Nearly embarrassing as supporting a club born out of a courtroom. Two can play at this game.

 

[Tim Evans Beard]

Havent walked back anything. I seem to be repeating myself for some goddamn reason. Board aint meant to be an echo chamber for your personal beliefs champ

Really? So it’s not an approved match jumper? Or it’s not approved for this match? Or it’s not approved for matches from broadcast time by the AFL broadcast partner in Fiji that runs the game from 3 in the morning until midday Tuesday? You keep shifting your position and presenting your unsubstantiated opinion as ‘fact’.

These types of posts - where a moderator presents an unfounded opinion as fact - presents as a soft gauge for AFL opinions and presents the poster as the bigfooty equivalent of a ‘fluffer.’

Fluff on AFL shrill, fluff on.

 

[Turiyasangitananda]

And i can only refer to the AFls remarks where they say they cant wear it outside Heritage rounds.

Your guessing too champ



I wouldnt want to be Port next time they ask to wear it.

What's the AFI?