Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

[Enviable Tradition]

So then, what is your heritage? Is it prison bars, or is it black, teal, silver and white? Do you not see your current jumper, or your 2004 AFL Premiership jumper, as part of your heritage?

That's the part that I'm genuinely curious about, as even a poster just a few posts back, stated that they brought out their 10 and 20 year Port Power jumpers in 2006 and 2016 respectively - as part of their heritage.

Also, multiple posters here have now stated that teal and silver is part of your heritage now - along with the chevrons - so I guess then it must be about not 'bastardizing' your heritage, would that be right?

Genuinely trying to understand.

Many guernseys and colours are part of our heritage.

The most significant part of our heritage is the black and white prison bars.

We wore them for longest, we had the most success in them, we grew up with them, idolised them, war heroes played in them.

All else pales into insignificance by comparison.

We already have the right to honour all other parts of our heritage BUT the most important bit.

 

[Boxhead_31]

So teams are not allowed to trade players with their consent? Right...

Collingwood did everything in its power to make him staying untenable to the point he agreed to leave

 

[Boxhead_31]

First daicos with points in a buckley thread and now treloar in a jumper clash thread. You must really hate the pies as you in every thread trying to put a negative on them.

Read the quoted message and see if you can find a link

 

[Kappa]

Collingwood did everything in its power to make him staying untenable to the point he agreed to leave

Alright, so Collingwood followed the rules, now Port should follow the rules too and use their home jumper. Settled, fantastic.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Anyway, a way to solve the problem has been found

 

[Gavin Excell]

I can see both sides to this but how exactly does Collingwood lose by not standing in the way of Port using it once a year?

I'd imagine there'd be positive credits across the league if it chose that option that would offset any perceived merchandising losses

 

[Enviable Tradition]

What was most cringeworthy was how Eddie was still speaking from a position of power from a Collingwood perspective.

I had hoped when he stood aside that this would end.

Foolish on my behalf.

And then with a straight face telling Kane not to speak for Collingwood lol.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Well funny you say that

Hawthorn 2005 decided to wear this, from their VFA days. Eddie and the VAFL agrees that they showed disrespect to the Bulldogs i assume.

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Another completely and utterly irrelevant point..

Hawthorn wore it once.. hawthorn arent asking to wear it again and probably never will ask to.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

How about a simple solution from the AFL which should appease Collingwood and Port.

If the debate is that a contract was signed which the colours were only allowed to be worn in heritage round which was then removed from the fixture, being back heritage round!!

I used to love heritage round and we have numerous other celebratory rounds but why not bring back Heritage round to actually celebrate football and the clubs we have all grown up to love.

BRING BACK HERITAGE ROUND

 

[Lip Gallagher]

This is fun, we might not be able to win a football match at present but we sure as hell aren't losing this, they knew the rules when they signed on to join the comp, so they can EAD.

 

[Lip Gallagher]

How about a simple solution from the AFL which should appease Collingwood and Port.

If the debate is that a contract was signed which the colours were only allowed to be worn in heritage round which was then removed from the fixture, being back heritage round!!

I used to love heritage round and we have numerous other celebratory rounds but why not bring back Heritage round to actually celebrate football and the clubs we have all grown up to love.

BRING BACK HERITAGE ROUND

What about dwarf lesbian surfers round, why doesn't anyone ever think about them?

 

[Lip Gallagher]

4 point penalty for the wrong jumper is huge.
20,000 fine for a club whose players used mobile phones during a game after a player had already been busted for placing a bet on a his own team is absolutely nothing.

Amazing how much Collingwood get "kissed on the D".
Not a lot to show for it though.

Now we just need 10 other sides to ware our bars for a few weeks and we'll be back in the finals hunt!

 

[Boxhead_31]

Now we just need 10 other sides to ware our bars for a few weeks and we'll be back in the finals hunt!

You want 10 other clubs to make your guernsey for you?
How will this get you back in the finals hunt

 

[Bearded Clam]

Its a strange hill to die on if its all wrapped up in a war around the Vic-centricness of the AFL.

It baffles me that the Crows have been silent on this, when Port's central argument is that the showdown is a game of significance to SA football heritage, and therefore the agreement to allow the guernsey to be worn in Heritage Rounds should be interpreted to include a showdown where a heritage round doesn't exist.

You would have thought having the Crows endorse this view and apply their own approach to recognising football heritage would have further strengthened the argument.

But the Crows have been silent. Were they asked to contribute? Did they tell Port to shove it? Who knows.

Regardless of whether the outcome is right or wrong, you have to admit, it has been played absolutely terribly by Koch and the Port exec. Completely clueless. And now they're in a corner - what are they going to do? Shake harder, boy?

Pretty sure the crows wouldnt give a flying **** what port was up to..

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

Good to see PAFC held to the agreements they signed, instead of trying to weasel out of them whenever it suits them.

COLA anyone?

Collingwood hypocrisy. "Accept the AFL decision" my ar*e. "Accept the VFL decision WE want" more like it.

 

[parano1a]

If you do have a problem with this, imagine how the fans of Stoke, Sunderland and Sheffield United survived over the past century or so; or Aston Villa, West Ham and Burnley.

For the 57th time, there are about 5,000 professional clubs in European soccer leagues who play against each other. There are 18 AFL clubs in the AFL. Each can have its own design/colours, something which is obviously not possible in soccer.

 

[Stax on the mill]

If only we had relegation in 2020.

It illustrates, even to the feebleminded, that in a sporting competition, one similar in size to the AFL, that 5 teams can co exist in the same league and the sky does not fall in. The sport and country are quite irrelevant.

I get that most Crows supporters don't want Port to succeed in anything, and that's fine, I get that, but if you take the more broad philosophical stance, this is just another example of them favouring a Victorian clubs interests/whims over all others. It continues to happen. The corruption of the league will never change whilst campaigners like McGuire are the puppet masters and jelly backed CEO's like Gilligan bow to his every wish.

The corruption doesn't stop unless you try to resist it. Collingwood get looked after by AFL house more than any other club. McGuire is a cancer. A festering cancer. Listen to how he speaks. Listen to what he says. He thinks he's in charge. He's got Mark Korda on a string. He's got Gill on a string. He uses his media influence as a Soapbox for his own agendas. People need to wake up this guy. Strong clubs like West Coast, Adelaide, Sydney, Fremantle should be calling them out constantly on it. Nothing will change otherwise.

Get a grip man. You’ve seriously lost the plot. Need to get that acute paranoia and obsessiveness seen to before it ruins your life.

 

[Bulldog1954]

This is a great way for Collingwood to change the news cycle from their poor recent performances, systemic racism findings, player sexual assault charges and inability to manage a salary cap.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Thus should be Collingwood's heritage jumper given the large percentage of their supporters/members that use this service.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Teal and black prison bars, fine - no issue.
Port have to compromise here or move on.

Nope

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Would you accept it as a compromise if the AFL said you couldn't do the original prison bars?

No

 

[rippersnipper]

For the 57th time, there are about 5,000 professional clubs in European soccer leagues who play against each other. There are 18 AFL clubs in the AFL. Each can have its own design/colours, something which is obviously not possible in soccer.

Why do you have a problem with this though? Is there an actual reason?

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

For the 57th time, there are about 5,000 professional clubs in European soccer leagues who play against each other. There are 18 AFL clubs in the AFL. Each can have its own design/colours, something which is obviously not possible in soccer.

Strawman argument.

This is just a Collingwood/VFL decision, blatantly, and claiming the decision justifies the previous decision is ludicrous.


Its like the VFL decision to play the GF at the G is an ongoing decision to justify the previous decision.

Ask yourself "Why?", and don't answer "Because it is."

 

[OnlyPowerForever]

Why do you have a problem with this though? Is there an actual reason?

Exactly. This is the real question the AFL won't answer.

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

What about dwarf lesbian surfers round, why doesn't anyone ever think about them?

Heritage round is about celebrating everyone’s clubs culture and past players which have made our sport great.

That is a cause which should be celebrated and has nothing to do with any social or political issues which based on your comment I’m going to assume you are the type too always be calling to keep those topics removed from sport.

Well here’s your chance, heritage round is actually about sport, football and our clubs and nothing to do with politics.