Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood

[PowerForGood]

Using the word bleed like someone has to follow a club religiously...

Anyway, supported North Adelaide.

But yes the other clubs had to vote, and ultimately they didn't pick Port.



That is an incredibly far reaching conclusion when the first line and every other Adelaide Crows background piece makes no connection.



People hear stories of a previous Adelaide Football Club so naturally the current Adelaide Football Club would provide information about its history. That's to be commended, not used in some idiotic slant that they are pretending to exist before 1990.

How weak can an argument get when it hangs on one journalist throwaway line in an obscure article about a namesake of the past. Just the fact that I had to type that to point out the obvious lol

Not a throwaway line. THE OFFICIAL ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB website. It's insecurity at it's most obvious.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Being respectful, asserting there is an agreement means there should be evidence of one, and being able to reference that evidence. No one has ever produced evidence of one. Ever.
It shouldn't be about trying to prove it doesn't exist.
Otherwise I could make claims about anything in this world and everyone would have to prove those claims are wrong.

Agreement or no agreement, this whole jumper debate shouldn't even be a debate.

Fact is, there is one club that wears black and white, (and has been longer than the other club) that has a magpie as it's logo and is an original member club of the competition.

The other club, used the same colours and emblem in a different competition. They then enter a competition that has another club with the same emblem and same colours.

That means the club that entered this competition should wear alternative colours and logos. That's it, that should be the end of the whole discussion right there.

 

[RolandF1]

It was a legitimate question. You seem highly invested in the topic even though this is one of the few football related threads you post in.

Why do you care if Port want to wear the PB guernsey?

My opinions expressed in the topic show why.

I did. Crows is a mascot and a logo.

Crows clearly refers to the current Adelaide Football Club despite your warped interpretation. You are being completely disingenuous now.

"A major development in SA football occurred a decade after Adelaide became the State’s first club. The Port Adelaide Football Club was formed in 1870."

Who's "deliberately being disingenuous"?

Still you.

 

[RolandF1]

Not a throwaway line. THE OFFICIAL ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB website. It's insecurity at it's most obvious.

Yeah... the insecurity isn't with the OFFICIAL ADELAIDE FOOTBALL CLUB I'm afraid.

 

[bomberclifford]

I keep getting responses that 'no one wants to use the magpie emblem'

Why wouldn't Port fans want to use the magpie emblem? Given the option they would and you'd be lying to say they wouldn't.

It’s irrelevant what some fans might want in some hypothetical scenario, it’s not what the club is asking for and it never will be.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Because we don't. We're not seeking to copy Collingwood. The PB guernsey is NOT a copy.

You and I and everyone else knows Port and their fans don't wish to copy Collingwood. We know that Port and their fans want to return to heritage for some games in this competition. And that's where the debate begins.

You can't tell me if Port fans had the choice they wouldn't want to use the pb and the emblem week in week out, of course they would.

 

[bomberclifford]

I feel like I’m arguing with children.

 

[Carringbush2010]

It’s irrelevant what some fans might want in some hypothetical scenario, it’s not what the club is asking for and it never will be.

That's true, doesn't mean I can't oppose the thinking of those fans. I don't like that line of thinking because that hypothetical would effect my club so I'm just voicing my disapproval at those fans.

 

[JimmyBC]

You and I and everyone else knows Port and their fans don't wish to copy Collingwood. We know that Port and their fans want to return to heritage for some games in this competition. And that's where the debate begins.

You can't tell me if Port fans had the choice they wouldn't want to use the pb and the emblem week in week out, of course they would.

No one wants the magpie you are delusional.

 

[bomberclifford]

That's true, doesn't mean I can't oppose the thinking of those fans. I don't like that line of thinking because that hypothetical would effect my club so I'm just voicing my disapproval at those fans.

You keep up the good fight then. Can’t let thought crime get too out of hand.

 

[Carringbush2010]

The guernsey was worn with no logo in the SANFL for 60 plus years, we've never used the Magpie logo at AFL level & never will it's a complete non issue.

Actually the whole issue should be a non issue, shouldn't be up for debate.

 

[JimmyBC]

Actually the whole issue should be a non issue, shouldn't be up for debate.

That's right we'll be wearing the PB's in the future & people will get over it.

 

[bomberclifford]

My opinions expressed in the topic show why.

Your opinions expressed here centre around the Crows being refused the right to wear the SA State guernsey, which is completely unrelated.

Why are you as an individual against Port wearing the PB guernsey in the AFL?
How does it affect you, aside from some juvenile sense of tit-for-tat?

 

[Carringbush2010]

You keep up the good fight then. Can’t let thought crime get too out of hand.

Now you're being facetious a faeces

 

[Carringbush2010]

That's right we'll be wearing the PB's in the future & people will get over it.

Personally I don't have an issue with the pb in showdown games, as long as there is no magpie emblem and yes I know there won't be.

 

[JimmyBC]

Personally I don't have an issue with the pb in showdown games, as long as there is no magpie emblem and yes I know there won't be.

It's never been worn in the AFL with a Magpie logo I don't know why you are losing sleep over something that's never happened and never will.

 

[bomberclifford]

Personally I don't have an issue with the pb in showdown games, as long as there is no magpie emblem and yes I know there won't be.

To put your mind at ease, the recent rebrand PAFC went through was specifically about creating a logo that can represent the club in its 150th year without the magpie emblem used by our SANFL team.

 

[Established1870]

That's true, doesn't mean I can't oppose the thinking of those fans. I don't like that line of thinking because that hypothetical would effect my club so I'm just voicing my disapproval at those fans.

Has anyone in this thread said they want us to become the Magpies in the AFL? No, because that's not the argument here and you're either a complete moron or deliberately missing the point if you think it is.

 

[PowerForGood]

Agreement or no agreement, this whole jumper debate shouldn't even be a debate.

Fact is, there is one club that wears black and white, (and has been longer than the other club) that has a magpie as it's logo and is an original member club of the competition.

The other club, used the same colours and emblem in a different competition. They then enter a competition that has another club with the same emblem and same colours.

That means the club that entered this competition should wear alternative colours and logos. That's it, that should be the end of the whole discussion right there.

So heritage means nothing... ok. Done.

 

[Carringbush2010]

It's never been worn in the AFL with a Magpie logo I don't know why you are losing sleep over something that's never happened and never will.

How is it I'm 'losing sleep'? I did state that I know the emblem won't be used in the post you replied to.

 

[Carringbush2010]

So heritage means nothing... ok. Done.

That's a reactive statement. I never said heritage means nothing, if anything I'm advocating for the heritage of my club. I'm also recognizing that Port's heritage is the pb and the magpie emblem.

I also know if Port and their fans had the choice (which they don't or won't) they'd want to use the pb and the magpie emblem as the main, you can't deny that.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Has anyone in this thread said they want us to become the Magpies in the AFL? No, because that's not the argument here and you're either a complete moron or deliberately missing the point if you think it is.

You'd be lying if you had the choice between pb and the magpie emblem as your regular strip vs the Port power garb and you said 'I'd rather the power garb'

 

[El_Scorcho]

You'd be lying if you had the choice between pb and the magpie emblem as your regular strip vs the Port power garb and you said 'I'd rather the power garb'

This is a meaningless point though because nobody is advocating for us to be the Magpies or wear a magpie emblem.

If you're trying to drum up a bit of fear that we're trying to become the Magpies by stealth, you're barking up the wrong tree. There is zero discussion of the Magpies name in the #bringbackthebars movement. It's all about the guernsey.

 

[Alex09]

You'd be lying if you had the choice between pb and the magpie emblem as your regular strip vs the Port power garb and you said 'I'd rather the power garb'

They are willing to compromise and give up the magpies name and emblem for the traditional jumper. It seems fair and brings them in line with the other clubs in the AFL that share colours.

 

[Carringbush2010]

This is a meaningless point though because nobody is advocating for us to be the Magpies or wear a magpie emblem.

If you're trying to drum up a bit of fear that we're trying to become the Magpies by stealth, you're barking up the wrong tree. There is zero discussion of the Magpies name in the #bringbackthebars movement. It's all about the guernsey.

I'm not trying to drum up fear, Port came into this comp with a completely different jumper and emblem. I understand why Port and their fans want to wear the pb for showdown games, part of the heritage. I have no issue with that.

This whole debate shouldn't even be a debate, Port = power. That's where it should end. Hope they win the flag.