Could 15 teams could join the league and wear that same strip then?
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Port Adelaide's plan to use jumpers similar to Collingwood
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They need to do this retroactively and photoshop last weeks game to have them in the Prison Bars / Pylons
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Where's the line? 2 clubs, 3 clubs, 4 clubs?
I want the AFL to protect the identities of all clubs and I have no love for Collingwood, I'd be equally against a longstanding VFL team that wears Eagles colours/guernsey joining with the same. In saying that, as those occasional homage guernseys where relevant I think it's fine.
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Port Adelaide are overstepping the mark. They joined the AFL competition when a team already had "black & white"
They agreed not to use these colours when they joined.
AFL has ruled on it saying are not approved to wear it. that should be the end of it.
They agreed not to use these colours when they joined.
AFL has ruled on it saying are not approved to wear it. that should be the end of it.
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I guess that's that. Clearly the AFL hold the trademarks and the decision making, but for all intents and purposes it is a Victorian-club run league.
Australian Football League - should be taking them to court for false advertising.
Australian Football League - should be taking them to court for false advertising.
Eddie brings this up as a past approach. What he completely misses is that it was a miserable failure and is the thing that was responsible for the clubs financial issues.
But no one is asking to wear a Collingwood strip, which is the difference here.
A more accurate analogy would be looking at Richmond and Weribee existing in the same competition... and Port aren't even looking at running with clashing nicknames.
Why are the AFL favouring one clubs branding over another?
That is the issue here.
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Its almost like yellow and black Richmond joining the renamed VFA where there was already a yellow and black side in Weribee.
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Yeah no clubs identity is under threat. Explain how you believe Port Adelaide wearing the PBs at home against a club that's not Collingwood, damages Collingwoods identity in any way. Are people not capable of differentiating between the two jumpers? Or what stadium the home teams playing at? When people don't hear Collingwood mentioned or see any of their players what do you think will happen?
You think the AFL would walk away from the 4 points deduction?
It's been a while since I did contract law but from memory, unless Port Adelaide Power (whom I assume are the signatories, not the Port Adelaide Magpies) can show they signed under duress then I believe you will find the agreement to be held up as valid. And, no, arguing that unless you agreed that the AFL would let another team into the comp is hardly likely to be accepted as duress. It's a bit like winning at a property auction and down the track if/when you believe you overpaid that you try and argue that if you didn't bid that high that someone else would've bought the house, instead.
The other factor is that if it was the Port Adelaide Power that signed the agrement then the Port Adelaide Magpies have no standing in the case, irrelevant of how much they, themselves, may feel they are 'connected'. A totally new entity with a new name and design signed the agreement therefore it is that entity, and that entity only, that can claim any grievance and Port Adelaide Power do not have the history/heritage they claim thus they will struggle* to win a legal argument.
* never say never, but if the agreement is rock solid then I would prefer to be in the AFL's shoes (as I assume they are the holders of the agreement, whether on behalf of Collingwood or not) than in the Power's shoes.
Good luck.
So what? That was the agreement. Pies are happy to abide by it, Port obviously aren’t.
If Port thought the contract was flimsy they would have taken this to court ages ago
We’re trying to wear this guernsey in two games a year, that don’t involve Collingwood. We aren’t trying to make it our permanent guernsey. It’s not an unreasonable request and the grounds for it being denied are flimsy when in the past they have agreed to allow us to wear it in an ongoing basis (heritage round)
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At least VFL house is honest with its bias.
Statement basically states pies say no so no.
When freo wore a near replicate of an old swans guernsey on more then one occasion there was no consultation needed afl hold all licences and control so it didn’t matter what the swans think.
I just hope if port make the gf they wear the prison bars and lift up the cup!
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Statement basically states pies say no so no.
When freo wore a near replicate of an old swans guernsey on more then one occasion there was no consultation needed afl hold all licences and control so it didn’t matter what the swans think.
I just hope if port make the gf they wear the prison bars and lift up the cup!
No four points to lose
No he doesn't.
The agreement forbids Port from selling Heritage jumpers. There haven't been any heritage jumpers for Port to sell.
For contracts to be valid, all parties involved need to actually receive what they have been offered in the contract. Port was offered the opportunity to wear the jumper in heritage rounds that hasn't been supplied, so the contract is broken anyway.
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There have been multiple occasions where half a dozen or more teams in the English Premiership had predominantly red strips.
They just used their clash strips - which were very different from their home strips - when they visited one of those teams that shared the same colours.
It's not that hard.
Big traditional Victorian club......
The issue here is Collingwood still have Ed as president who clearly spends a lot of time with the boss from the AFL?
It was a Heritage Round. Big difference. Collingwood have no issue with Port wearing those colours within a designated Heritage Round. Now they want to backtrack on the agreement all parties signed.
I think a guernsey/colours and brand is a huge part of a club's identity. My view is there needs to be some control and that an increase in similar colours + guernseys + designs weakens the identity and brand recognition of each the more similar they are. The actual clubs involved make no difference to me. I wouldn't want any current club identity to be weakened.
This is the one Port adopted when it joined the league:
I think overall the black white and teal should be their branding and guernsey, but as I said as an occasional homage Guernsey such as in Showdown's I think an exception could be made. I do understand why Collingwood wouldn't want that though, it's entirely about protecting their brand identity.
More like you win a property auction, then the seller withdraws the house from sale. And are then trying to claim you still have to pay them. Port is not being supplied with the heritage round to wear a black and white stripped guernsey, so the AFL is not holding up its end of the agreement.
If Port Adelaide Power has signed anything, then the agreement is even more worthless because there has never been a legal entity named the Port Adelaide Power.
We have a Brazilian supporter on our board. He has informed us there are 5 clubs (out of 20) currently in their Premier League who's home colours are Black and White. 5.
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