You mean like two clubs wearing navy blue and white in different designs?
Or two clubs wearing red, blue and yellow in different designs?
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Or two clubs wearing red, blue and yellow in different designs?
Okay? And? The premier league have relegation and promotion too? American sports have conferences?
Other sports having different precedents for different circumstances (There's hundreds of English clubs in the FA and it would be near impossible to have entirely different home and clash guernseys without strong similarities occurring somewhere).
Just because something happens elsewhere doesn't mean we need to follow the same precedent.
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What now makes it flimsy is what Eddie said on Footy Classified last night. The fact that he knew via Gil before he co-wrote the contract that there’d be no more heritage rounds after that year means they acted in bad faith which can and should make that contract void.
Cool story. Port can enter a soccer team in Brazil and make it 6 if they wish. Here in the AFL we respect the unique identities of our existing clubs.
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Port had to sign contracts to wear it for heritage rnd
Ours was more a like the swans heritage then pies and power guernsey
Yet there was no board room battle or contract signings why is that?
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Can’t believe Collingwood allowed prison bars on the logoI think a guernsey/colours and brand is a huge part of a club's identity. My view is there needs to be some control and that an increase in similar colours + guernseys + designs weakens the identity and brand recognition of each the more similar they are. The actual clubs involved make no difference to me. I wouldn't want any current club identity to be weakened.
This is the one Port adopted when it joined the league:
I think overall the black white and teal should be their branding and guernsey, but as I said as an occasional homage Guernsey such as in Showdown's I think an exception could be made. I do understand why Collingwood wouldn't want that though, it's entirely about protecting their brand identity.
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And your point is?..
Brazilian’s also voted in Bolsonara too.. hows that working out for them!..
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Well funny you say thatI think the Hawks are safe with their colours
Hawthorn 2005 decided to wear this, from their VFA days. Eddie and the VAFL agrees that they showed disrespect to the Bulldogs i assume.
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Collingwood is doing more than enough to damage its own identity without any other club contributing
No, because it was worn within the context of a designated heritage round. Collingwood have no issue with Port wearing the prison bars jumper in a designated heritage round.
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But ed and the woods own black and white.
They must all pay royalties to the biggest club in the world(not even the biggest in the league).
The karma bus will get the woods
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It would have to be an assessment of similarity, for example Black and white and Navy and White
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I think there's different levels of similarities....
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And if they finish on the bottom of the ladder they get relegated. And they only get 1 point for kicking a goal.
It’s almost as if they’re a completely different league of a completely different sport in a completely different country.
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They clearly do otherwise that contract would have never been written if Eddie knew heritage rounds were going to continue to go ahead post 2007.
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You can’t say they had no issue when they had to sign a contract before they could wear it.
Semantics. Whomever is/was representing the Port Adelaide Power, and you know that was the basis of the comment.
If Port Adelaide Power (or whomever) thought they had a strong case to rescind/overturn this agreement and their legal opinion (of which I would be certain they have obtained) was very favourable then this matter would be in a court of law where such matters are decided and not in the court of public opinion, where such matters are, invariably, not decided.
Think about that point and the message the club is sending its fans about what they think of their legal chances because you can bet the house you bought (or didn't buy) at that auction that if they thought they could win they'd have been in court, if not yesterday then years ago. As anyone would if they thought they would win.
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You actually think that is the issue don't you?
That a club shouldn't be allowed to celebrate its heritage because the VAFL says its not a themed round?
We change everything else in this competition on a week. Teams wearing indigenous guernseys not during the round. ANZAC Day football wasn't a thing. Good Friday football wasn't a thing. Hell even opening game is Carlton v Richmond and when other clubs wanted in they were told it was... get this... a tradition. After 4 years.
Its such a straw man argument, distracting everyone from the real issue. Another Melb club running the comp.
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Collingwood are not the powerhouse they think they are.
Mcguires comments are taken with a giggle these days.he is an insignificant.
Systemstic racism and bullying.
This issue is as pathetic as is gillon.
Collingwood are in freefall and have bigger things things to worry about than this.
Eddie and gillon sleep top and tail
Mcguires comments are taken with a giggle these days.he is an insignificant.
Systemstic racism and bullying.
This issue is as pathetic as is gillon.
Collingwood are in freefall and have bigger things things to worry about than this.
Eddie and gillon sleep top and tail
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If the AFL give in and let the power get their own way now... whats next?..
port fans ask the AFL for the permission to display a magpie on their merchandise?..
after all.. its a “port adelaide” magpie as opposed to a “Collingwood” magpie..
See, look... completely different... ones looking to the left, the others looking to the right.. one’s got a lot of black on his beak, the other hasn’t.. one’s got a bigger eye than the other..
hows it affect the Collingwood football club if the port adelaide football club start to display their traditional magpie mascot?..
“wont happen, we’d never ask for that” I hear the port supporters squeal.. yet here we are disussing them wanting to reneg on a past agreement.. so it evident that none of them can be trusted on anything... all it will take is one of them to start a “change.org” petition demanding the magpie be allowed on port’s merch and we’re off again debating it...
Give it up. The AFL has made the right decision to say no before it gets out of hand.
port fans ask the AFL for the permission to display a magpie on their merchandise?..
after all.. its a “port adelaide” magpie as opposed to a “Collingwood” magpie..
See, look... completely different... ones looking to the left, the others looking to the right.. one’s got a lot of black on his beak, the other hasn’t.. one’s got a bigger eye than the other..
hows it affect the Collingwood football club if the port adelaide football club start to display their traditional magpie mascot?..
“wont happen, we’d never ask for that” I hear the port supporters squeal.. yet here we are disussing them wanting to reneg on a past agreement.. so it evident that none of them can be trusted on anything... all it will take is one of them to start a “change.org” petition demanding the magpie be allowed on port’s merch and we’re off again debating it...
Give it up. The AFL has made the right decision to say no before it gets out of hand.
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And yet, all your points are irrelevant to this conversation..
I think people are conflating the original 1996 signed agreement, and the 2007 signed agreement, by the looks of it.
Absolutely spot on in what you're saying - and what I've been saying ad nauseam throughout this thread. Morally they might have a point, but the cold hard legal fact of the matter is, they signed an agreement in 1996, and that agreement precludes them from wearing black and white unless the AFL gives them special permission to do so. That's most likely how a court would rule on it too.
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I personally would like to see such a legal challenge.
And if the reason it was a successful challenge in Port Adelaide's favour, was mainly due to Eddie and his mouth last night, well I'd find that rather humorous.
And if the reason it was a successful challenge in Port Adelaide's favour, was mainly due to Eddie and his mouth last night, well I'd find that rather humorous.
I would understand if it was exactly the same design, but it's not. Geelong and Carlton have had the same colours for yonks and no-one gives a shit. You have more trouble distinguishing North and Collingwood teams from old black and white footage.
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