Port requests for Gold Coast to change home guernsey

[Bomberboyokay]

Does David Koch have reelection at the end of the year? Wants an issue to fire up enough nuffies to vote for him?

 

[Kwality]

Clearly home games cannot be bought. It is even a laugh some people thought it has.

What has happened is stupid enough but the reality is Port have asked another club to play a home game against them in China. GC have basically said, give us $500K and we will play our home game against you in China. Dumb on a lot of levels as it screws Gold Coast fans that want to see their team as often as possible live and the AFL have allowed those fans to be screwed over. So much for doing all you can growing the game and supporting football and fans wanting to watch more football up in Gold Coast.

Bingo!

Exhibition game in October or early February would make far more sense if trying to allow a new market to see our game without ripping it off some relatively new fans up at Gold Coast.

Roger that, Gold Coast copped $500k but didn't sell the game, yet when North wanted a better offer from the Eagles it was no go - easy to follow 78?

 

[Kwality]

Does David Koch have reelection at the end of the year? Wants an issue to fire up enough nuffies to vote for him?

wishful thinking .... ? Sure he has stuffed this issue, but he's got the runs on the board, remember Eddie dropped $8mil on a couple of pubs but Pies members stuck with him .... maybe you've been around BomberLand too long, fire him, offload him, blame him, DCM, ...

 

[carnthedons]

I love the bay like advice Port are getting on PR in this thread from Essendon fans.

High irony content.

Surely we'd be best placed to advise on club's ****in shit up

 

[Jade]

Let's just see if we can summarize this shall we?

- Koch attempts to negotiate a deal with Chinese backers to play in China
- AFL duly informs Koch that Port's home games MUST be played at Adelaide Oval due to contractual obligations
- Koch negotiates with Gold Coast to move their home game to Shanghai
- Koch is apparently unaware that the Chinese flag is red and gold, or is unaware that Gold Coast wear red and gold
- Koch tells Gold Coast that he 'bought' their home game, so they have to wear their away strip
- Gold Coast says, "u flipping wot m8?", and tells Koch they negotiated to MOVE their home game, not sell it
- Koch says they have an agreement
- Gold Coast says it must be written in invisible ink and be kept by the tooth fairy
- Koch tells Gold Coast he'll change their fixture next year
- AFL says "thx mete, we'll take care of the fixture"
- Koch cries
- BigFooty laughs
- Port fans get upset

That about cover it?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

So David Koch wants Gold Coast to wear their away guernsey in the China game and threatens to leave Gold Coast out of the China venture if they don't change their stance all because it is the same as China's colours.

This is absolute crap from Port. Gold Coast gave up one of their home games so that Port can go on a business venture in a place where neither have home ground advantage. Then he mentions how Port paid Gold Coast as if it is within their right to demand Gold Coast to change colours.

No Koch. Port paid Gold Coast so that Port can be greedy and keep all of their home games. No team will fly internationally so that your greedy team can keep a home game for free. Gold Coast should have just as much ability to sell their own brand in China as Port does.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

I hope Gold Coast stick to their guns, wear their colours and become China's team.

 

[marty36]

This is insane by Koch, there is no clash of jumpers both wear home strips, simple

Your bad luck koch that China like red and will clearly favor that team

 

[Sassermon]

You clearly have no understanding of our history. We have always thrived on being hated! Why? Because we have always taken chances, our very existence in the AFL as the only non Vic 'Club' is testimony to that, that it is us creating this game is further testimony.
We are the black sheep of the code and always have been. The Crows are the 'establishment'.

Oh i understand your history perfectly. Spent the first 25 years of my life in Adelaide living and breathing football, was there for the clubs entrance into the AFL and have witnessed its highs and lows. So many teams could claim the title of black sheep in this league because every team has its haters and difficulties but Pt Adelaide is no more hard done by than any team. But hey if you need to think that to maintain the rage, go for it.

 

[Mkcaptain]

That about cover it?

Not quite. Koch seems to be under the impression the home team gets to choose the kits when in reality it's an AFL decision based on whether there is a clash or not

 

[Jade]

Not quite. Koch seems to be under the impression the home team gets to choose the kits when in reality it's an AFL decision based on whether there is a clash or not

Indeed.

 

[Helfarch]

not the bay guys. enough with the memes

To be clear Guangzhou Power are not a meme, they are a CAFL team, China Arena Football League (arena football as in indoor NFL) and will compete again this year in an expanded competition. They happen to have the same name and similar colours to Port. I like to think Koshie will tell them they must change their name etc.

Port aren't going to make a significant impact at all compared arena football or rugby union.

 

[Jade]

What astonishes me in it's sheer obtuseness, is this claim that 'you won't be playing there again'.

Let's say Gold Coast go up there, play, and based on feedback the AFL projects that they might be able to get 500-1000 international members from China in 2018.

What side do you think will be fixtured to play there in 2018, no matter what Koch says?

It's just staggering in how stupid that comment is.

 

[Lance Uppercut]

it's such a blatant arse covering attempt. I would have given anything to have been there to have seen the look on his face when the penny finally dropped about how important colour and luck is to the Chinese, and the significance of exactly the colours that GC are inevitably going to wear.

And why the hell wouldn't they? That's almost the most amusing part of this whole debacle for Port. Why wouldn't GC wear their home jumper? Quite aside from the fact that it's, you know, their JUMPER; they are involved in a business arrangement to project the image of Australian Rules Football to a gigantic international market, and they are fundamentally about growing the brand of the Gold Coast Football Club.

Port may desperately wish that this was about Port Adelaide, but it's not. It's about the AFL. And this is naturally the AFL's position, so Port are on a hiding to nothing. The AFL don't care if, in 10 years time, the Chinese market is engaged with AFL footy via the agency of Port Adelaide, Gold Coast, or any other team that may get involved - just that the Chinese market is engaged with AFL footy.

And the funniest part about it is: it's going to be a tough gig, so what is the absolute best way for the AFL to maximise those chances? Why, it would be to have a team involved who just happen to not only wear the two favourite colours that Chinese people would most identify with - personally, nationally, and culturally; but who also happen to be based in a geographical area that is one of the top 5 preferred holiday destinations of the Chinese people, which means they'll identify with the team even more!!

And Gold Coast. What is their district's absolute top revenue stream? Why it's tourism, of course. And who is the absolute biggest market segment of that major revenue stream? Well, we all know the answer to that one is clearly China. And as a new player in a competitive market, Gold Coast are fundamentally obliged to sustain and grow their brand any way they can.

So why the hell wouldn't Gold Coast wear their own colours? Deleteriously impact their own important growth plans to do Port Adelaide a favour? And why the hell would the AFL have even the slightest inclination to stop that from happening? And for what? To save the blushes of one David Koch, master businessman?

Well, Gold Coast will wear their home strip, and the AFL won't stop them. In fact, when you give it even a basic thinking through, if this is going to happen it's only prudent that the AFL do absolutely everything in their power to make it a success.

Unfortunately for poor old Kochy, that doesn't involve fixing his **** up; and the empty threats he's bleating are, inevitably, only going to come back and make him look even more of a fool than he does now, to the extent that it's even possible at this point

 

[Sentinel]

You do know this is all part of the hype? eeping the game in the news over the pre-season.

All this shit was sorted out in the agreement last year.

 

[Furn2]

How on earth can a side be allowed to buy a home game from another side ?

Port are just paying GC to play one of their home games against them in China.

 

[Jade]

How on earth can a side be allowed to buy a home game from another side ?

Port are just paying GC to play one of their home games against them in China.

Precisely, and Koch repeating it over and over again doesn't change that one bit.

 

[Beerfish]

Maybe the AFL should get the Crows involved next year with GC instead given their colours.

 

[DrMike]

Not quite. Koch seems to be under the impression the home team gets to choose the kits when in reality it's an AFL decision based on whether there is a clash or not

I don't remember the game but I do remember this

PORT Adelaide has earned home-ground advantage — and it will keep its distinctive pre-game routine — but the Power players will be wearing white as Richmond retains its traditional black-and-gold strip in the AFL elimination final at Adelaide Oval on Sunday.

The AFL has favoured the Tigers to avoid a clash of jumpers considering both teams wear predominantly black strips.

It is the first time the Power will wear white at Adelaide Oval — a decision that has enraged club chief executive Keith Thomas. He has called on the AFL to not only reward teams with home finals but home strips.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...k=e7df0d76f1223432c3cf2d78f4b344a3-1488335447

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I don't remember the game but I do remember this

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport...k=e7df0d76f1223432c3cf2d78f4b344a3-1488335447

oh boy, Port Adelaide passionately arguing the right of the home team to wear it's own colours

 

[Hawthorn United]

I don't care about the GC guernsey, I don't think you'll find many Port Adelaide fans who do.

However, you say "want" like it's just asking for help. It's a business / financial transaction, just like you'd be annoyed if people said "Hawthorn wanted the Tasmanian government to give them money". They negotiated it.
- Port Adelaide negotiated a lucrative sponsorship from an overseas country / companies.
- Port Adelaide negotiated with another club to forfeit a home game (I actually thought we bought the home game, but it seems not).
- Port Adelaide / Koch anticipated (probably on AFL advice, refer travel promotion below) that the guernsey colour change came with buying home game rights, however it's clear that was not the case. I say let it rest Kochie.

This looks more like a game created to help Shanghai tourism than growing the game.

I've looked at a few Shanghai ticketing websites and tourism sites for upcoming events, and there's nothing about this game.

 

[Jakksynn]

Is that really your read on this?

Yeah, I really doubt this is a real issue. You can't deny this is raising the interest levels of opposition supporters. Bad publicity is good publicity for a reason.

 

[Toucan Soup]

Felt compelled to comment:
A few writers are spot on - Port has not bought a Home game; instead, they have paid compensation to another club, an enticement to transfer their own game. If you give weight to such indicators, check out the AFL fixture to see which club is listed as the "Home" side.
As for Port excluding Gold Coast from any future involvement, spare a moment to consider where the AFL would already be planning to play Suns' home games whilst the Commonwealth Games impact Metricon in 2018.
I hope that Gold Coast stands firm - I believe the current colours of both teams will present a greater spectacle in any case.

 

[darthbards]

This is pretty funny when you think about it

Not sure we need to think that hard about it...it's absolutely hilarious
Amatuer hour down there at Port.

 

[Sassermon]

Koche right now

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

what a dickhead. sets up the china game against a team who wears the colours of the Chinese flag this is going to backfire so bad on old kochie. should of sold his own home game if he wanted to dictate Guernsey choices out smarted by the suns he was