Opinion Posts That Don't Deserve a Thread (Random Opinion or Questions)

[Dubai Quacker]

Nah, good on her.

I think you're a bit late to the party though, as she's been painted as a rude, smug lefty for a long time, in part for challenging powerful people, whom for some reason have ordinary Australians rushing out to defend their honour.

Yes, I have no doubt that the Murdoch press are all over the Rotheram grooming gangs. Obviously it deserves coverage, but it also plays into one of their favourite "news" themes, fearmongering about immigrants.

Wouldn't be the first Australian of the Year to get people frothing after delivering a message we should all applaud. I'm going to back in her personal analysis, as someone who has had to deal with media coverage while advocating for sexual abuse survivors and protection, as she has done.

Sorry if this comes across as "heat".

Neale Daniher advocates for MND by bringing people together & inspiring them, regardless if they’re on the left, right or centre.

It’s why he’s such a wonderful success.

Grace Tame had the opportunity to do something similar, as her cause (was) above partisan politics.

But instead, she’s just become another Tash Petersen style annoyance.

Murdoch won’t lose any sleep over Tame’s petulance. But sexual assault victims have lost a potential champion who could have achieved a lot.

I just see it as a lost opportunity.

 

[Bloods86]

Neale Daniher advocates for MND by bringing people together & inspiring them, regardless if they’re on the left, right or centre.

It’s why he’s such a wonderful success.

Grace Tame had the opportunity to do something similar, as her cause (was) above partisan politics.

But instead, she’s just become another Tash Petersen style annoyance.

Murdoch won’t lose any sleep over Tame’s petulance. But sexual assault victims have lost a potential champion who could have achieved a lot.

I just see it as a lost opportunity.

History is full of dismissing people with good causes because they didn't challenge or protest in "the right way".

I suspect nothing makes Rupert lose sleep. Not the damage he has done via his media empire, nor some of its own questionable commentary on child sexual abuse within powerful religious groups.

The alleged loss of Tame's impact seems to be your opinion, which you're entitled to, but doesn't speak for everyone.

 

[David 3058]

You can get the 2025 guernsey on other shop sites, so not sure what the hold up is, Nike stuff is great but seems slow.

Seems a Sydney thing though maybe, as Collingwood has 2025 Nike stuff

It's nuts.

The only 2025 item on our website is a Nike backpack: https://shop.sydneyswans.com.au/. We are still selling (for example) 2024 polo shirts.

I appreciate it's not the site Swan fans want to be looking at but compare that to our 'cross town rivals' who have "all 2025 items available": https://shop.gwsgiants.com.au/. Like you say, the Pies have a number of 2025 items available (yes, Nike too).

I would suggest that having new season apparel ready to go is a pretty basic task for any sporting team's kit manufacturer plus the club itself. There are plenty of fans (me included) who want to buy the next season's apparel as soon as possible and get wearing it with pride.

It's a money spinner. To not have anything available in our club online store 39 days before our first game is not good enough.

 

[Kiama Chris]

I wouldn't want a society with Rupert Murdoch in it.

Totally agree but wouldn't wear the t-shirt.

 

[caesar88]

Totally agree but wouldn't wear the t-shirt.

That a society is more willing to have open dialogues about the appropriateness of a T-shirt than they are the atrocities of Rupert Murdoch & the like, is probably why Rupert Murdoch & the like have been able to do what they've done for so long.

Headlines should not read, "Grace Tame wears a T-shirt saying F Murdoch", but instead, "Reasons one would wear a T-shirt saying F Murdoch."

Ohhh but that can't happen, because Murdoch controls the headlines.

But Grace Tame is the threat...

 

[bedford]

That a society is more willing to have open dialogues about the appropriateness of a T-shirt than they are the atrocities of Rupert Murdoch & the like, is probably why Rupert Murdoch & the like have been able to do what they've done for so long.

Headlines should not read, "Grace Tame wears a T-shirt saying F Murdoch", but instead, "Reasons one would wear a T-shirt saying F Murdoch."

Ohhh but that can't happen, because Murdoch controls the headlines.

But Grace Tame is the threat...

I don't think she's a threat at all , not by doing that and it was disrespectful to the award winners that day

 

[The King!]

Grace Tame lost her chance to have an impact say people talking about it days later.

 

[The King!]

Neale Daniher advocates for MND by bringing people together & inspiring them, regardless if they’re on the left, right or centre.

It’s why he’s such a wonderful success.

Grace Tame had the opportunity to do something similar, as her cause (was) above partisan politics.

But instead, she’s just become another Tash Petersen style annoyance.

Murdoch won’t lose any sleep over Tame’s petulance. But sexual assault victims have lost a potential champion who could have achieved a lot.

I just see it as a lost opportunity.

How have sexual assault victims lost a potential champion? She's already been one and continues to be one , she raised worldwide awareness, she's done more than you and I will probably ever do for a cause.

I say that as someone who already said she seemed kinda of up her own arse in the flesh.

But cmon her wearing a tshirt doesn't change the work she has done

 

[Bloods86]

Grace Tame lost her chance to have an impact say people talking about it days later.

It's not really new criticism anyway. Plenty of media, commentators and the public already object to how she approaches things. Plenty already dismissed her because she offended some sensibilities in the past.

I'll take a good message delivered via uncomfortable means (for some), rather than bad actions/messages from people (i.e. some of her targets) who act civilised while they do it.

 

[The King!]

It's not really new criticism anyway. Plenty of media, commentators and the public already object to how she approaches things. Plenty already dismissed her because she offended some sensibilities in the past.

I'll take a good message delivered via uncomfortable means (for some), rather than bad actions/messages from people (i.e. some of her targets) who act civilised while they do it.

Yep at the end of the day the advocacy work she does is for people who have been through suffering many times greater than whatever minor offence was caused by a mean t shirt .

 

[Dubai Quacker]

How have sexual assault victims lost a potential champion? She's already been one and continues to be one , she raised worldwide awareness, she's done more than you and I will probably ever do for a cause.

I say that as someone who already said she seemed kinda of up her own arse in the flesh.

But cmon her wearing a tshirt doesn't change the work she has done

Because she’s limiting her sphere of influence via her behaviour.

The most effective “champions” appeal to all of society, not just those who align to their own political views.

 

[Bloods86]

Because she’s limiting her sphere of influence via her behaviour.

The most effective “champions” appeal to all of society, not just those who align to their own political views.

Why are you making it out to be political?

Sure, she made some comments about Murdoch's own political influence, but objecting to billionaires tilting the political scales in their favour should really be an apolitical position about the health of our (and other) democracies.

Climate action, justice and truth (though unspecified in at least what I've read) as she referred to, are not political. If politicians or media outlets have made it political by denial or dithering, and cop flak, that's on them.

Maybe those who diminish or dismiss her advocacy, could examine why they are more uncomfortable with powerful people being met with criticism in public, than the discomfort over the content of her advocacy.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Why are you making it out to be political?

Sure, she made some comments about Murdoch's own political influence, but objecting to billionaires tilting the political scales in their favour should really be an apolitical position about the health of our (and other) democracies.

Climate action, justice and truth (though unspecified in at least what I've read) as she referred to, are not political. If politicians or media outlets have made it political by denial or dithering, and cop flak, that's on them.

Maybe those who diminish or dismiss her advocacy, could examine why they are more uncomfortable with powerful people being met with criticism in public, than the discomfort over the content of her advocacy.

Please take this the right way - as you’re clearly articulate and playing the ball, not the man.

But I’m kinda not wanting to engage in broader political debate, so I think I’ll just leave this one alone now.

 

[joeykanga]

Neale Daniher advocates for MND by bringing people together & inspiring them, regardless if they’re on the left, right or centre.

It’s why he’s such a wonderful success.

Grace Tame had the opportunity to do something similar, as her cause (was) above partisan politics.

But instead, she’s just become another Tash Petersen style annoyance.

Murdoch won’t lose any sleep over Tame’s petulance. But sexual assault victims have lost a potential champion who could have achieved a lot.

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She was brave enough to represent her experience in the way she saw fit. But of course she should have talked to you first as to how things should be done...

just see it as a lost opportunity.

 

[Bloods86]

Please take this the right way - as you’re clearly articulate and playing the ball, not the man.

But I’m kinda not wanting to engage in broader political debate, so I think I’ll just leave this one alone now.

Fair enough. But you did bring up Tame not appealing to people with different political views, so as I don't agree that her main advocacy and her message this time (which still has overlap), should really be considered political, obviously I was going to go there.

Anyway we'll leave it there.

 

[bedford]

Because she’s limiting her sphere of influence via her behaviour.

The most effective “champions” appeal to all of society, not just those who align to their own political views.

Neale Daniher is a perfect example of that

 

[Bloods86]

Neale Daniher is a perfect example of that

Neale deserves plaudits for sure.

But it's not really a fair comparison, given the people Tame has challenged/criticised and their track records on issues related to her advocacy.

And Neale is much more of a household name, advocating on issues that are more straight forward for people to digest and respond to.

 

[bedford]

Neale deserves plaudits for sure.

But it's not really a fair comparison, given the people Tame has challenged/criticised and their track records on issues related to her advocacy.

And Neale is much more of a household name, advocating on issues that are more straight forward for people to digest and respond to.

Can't win , oh well i'll dip out with so many experts

 

[Bloods86]

Can't win , oh well i'll dip out with so many experts

I wasn't really trying to argue with you Bedders. But if you dip into a conversation, then people are going to engage with you.

Just pointing out that it's not just as simple as Daniher being better at advocacy or that all causes can be navigated the same.

 

[bedford]

I wasn't really trying to argue with you Bedders. But if you dip into a conversation, then people are going to engage with you.

Just pointing out that it's not just as simple as Daniher being better at advocacy or that all causes can be navigated the same.

It's okay i probably don't put in in the right way . All i know is that if you have a proper cause , do it so it's respected by most . That's why i have no respect for those protesting and disrupting people every weekend in Melbourne with their Palestinian flags , when no one over there would have any interest in what happens here , all they do is put the population against them . Do it once if you have to and then f off . I hate it when our country is disrupted by ##### like this .

 

[Bloods86]

It's okay i probably don't put in in the right way . All i know is that if you have a proper cause , do it so it's respected by most . That's why i have no respect for those protesting and disrupting people every weekend in Melbourne with their Palestinian flags , when no one over there would have any interest in what happens here , all they do is put the population against them . Do it once if you have to and then f off . I hate it when our country is disrupted by ##### like this .

I suspect Palestinians over in Gaza or the West Bank, have far more pressing concerns than most Australians.

As much as it's a problem for Australians to face a housing affordability crisis or higher energy bills, I think it's probably unfair to expect much thought from Palestinians who have seen large sections of their neighbourhoods bombed to oblivion, would be fortunate to have electricity, running water at all, or even if they don't face these issues, worry about losing their homes to encroaching settlers.