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I'm never fussed about an easy or a hard draw. If we want to be Premiers, the draw is irrelevant.

Want to beat the best? Be the best.


It's almost impossible to win a flag from WA from outside the top 4 though. Hoping that we double up against weaker teams and get 16 or 17 wins to launch a crack at the flag.
 

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I hate posting on this post due to the silly gimic name.
But with the 1 to 4 years going back Thursday, I am hoping that Cooper Simpson has been toiling away in the off season to build his engine and his body.
And I hope that he puts in the hard yards to get right for this coming season.
He could be a major X factor for us this season.He needs to find a way to find more of the ball. When he has it, he is all class.
C'mon Coops put in the big ones.'
 
I hate posting on this post due to the silly gimic name.
But with the 1 to 4 years going back Thursday, I am hoping that Cooper Simpson has been toiling away in the off season to build his engine and his body.
And I hope that he puts in the hard yards to get right for this coming season.
He could be a major X factor for us this season.He needs to find a way to find more of the ball. When he has it, he is all class.
C'mon Coops put in the big ones.'
Good post - agree. BTW love the name (and movie).
 
I'm never fussed about an easy or a hard draw. If we want to be Premiers, the draw is irrelevant.

Want to beat the best? Be the best.

Terrible take.

Football is so even now, with so much luck involved.

Brisbane won 3 home and away games this season by under a goal. They lose two of those they don't even make finals.

Very very hard to win the flag with out top four and top four can be decided by one kick.

Not caring about having an easy draw is wild to me lol you just haven't really thought it through. There's a reason the club is fighting for one extra home game a season.
 
Terrible take.

Football is so even now, with so much luck involved.

Brisbane won 3 home and away games this season by under a goal. They lose two of those they don't even make finals.

Very very hard to win the flag with out top four and top four can be decided by one kick.

Not caring about having an easy draw is wild to me lol you just haven't really thought it through. There's a reason the club is fighting for one extra home game a season.
Fighting for more home games isn't the same thing as the draw.

Beating up twice on Norf, Eagles and Richmond in a season gives no confidence that the players and the game plan will stack up against quality opposition in September.
 
Yes but it helps you get to September.

The model for a WA team is to win all home games, snag as many away games as you can, secure a home final and sail into the rest of the finals with a wet sail and full of confidence. Anything else and you're done for. Too hard.

We've got the away games part, more or less. We just need to make Burswood an impenetrable fortress.

Weirdly while we have quite a few parts of the puzzle, they're not the parts you would expect to have first. We were doing the tricky sky bits in the middle when we should have started on the edge.
 

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Fighting for more home games isn't the same thing as the draw.

Beating up twice on Norf, Eagles and Richmond in a season gives no confidence that the players and the game plan will stack up against quality opposition in September.

The real evidence that the players and game plan will stack up in September only exists in September unfortunately. With the evenness of the comp, the H&A season is more a scramble to make it rather than any true differentiator of teams. Only 4.5 wins separated us from minor premiers. That’s compared to the 7 wins between 1st and 10th in 22 and 23.

With Brisbanes poor start, against teams that were in the mix for finals but were clearly not flag contenders in hindsight, a slightly harder draw means they might not make it. You’re always going to play every team once. There’s no benefit to playing the better teams twice IMO.
 
Yes but it helps you get to September.

The model for a WA team is to win all home games, snag as many away games as you can, secure a home final and sail into the rest of the finals with a wet sail and full of confidence. Anything else and you're done for. Too hard.

We've got the away games part, more or less. We just need to make Burswood an impenetrable fortress.

Weirdly while we have quite a few parts of the puzzle, they're not the parts you would expect to have first. We were doing the tricky sky bits in the middle when we should have started on the edge.



lol the model for a WA team... more like the wimpish dream of a dockers fan.

We've only managed to make it to the grand final by being an anywhere, anytime team.

The only opposition location that matters is their position on the ladder. You need to beat the top 4 teams and you need to do it away from home if you ever want to win a flag.
 
The real evidence that the players and game plan will stack up in September only exists in September unfortunately. With the evenness of the comp, the H&A season is more a scramble to make it rather than any true differentiator of teams. Only 4.5 wins separated us from minor premiers. That’s compared to the 7 wins between 1st and 10th in 22 and 23.

With Brisbanes poor start, against teams that were in the mix for finals but were clearly not flag contenders in hindsight, a slightly harder draw means they might not make it. You’re always going to play every team once. There’s no benefit to playing the better teams twice IMO.
This is all 100% accurate but it's not going to convince anyone who thinks the opposite. In the end you have to beat the best to be the best views are based on a form of magical thinking where victory is based purely on a sort of moral authority rather than accepting the role of luck, which is essentially decisive when the teams are evenly matched all other things being equal.
 
lol the model for a WA team... more like the wimpish dream of a dockers fan.

We've only managed to make it to the grand final by being an anywhere, anytime team.

The only opposition location that matters is their position on the ladder. You need to beat the top 4 teams and you need to do it away from home if you ever want to win a flag.
Are you sure?

In the regular season Brisvegas wasn't all that convincing against the top 4 last year. Got flogged by GWS away and lost the second comfortably at home. Also soundly beaten by Geelong at home and were pretty damn lucky to snatch a win against a sputtering Sydney.
 
The way the draw pans out, trying to rate it just on the ladder position of the opposition is way too shallow. So many moving parts including form, availability of talent, etc etc.
 
Are you sure?

In the regular season Brisvegas wasn't all that convincing against the top 4 last year. Got flogged by GWS away and lost the second comfortably at home. Also soundly beaten by Geelong at home and were pretty damn lucky to snatch a win against a sputtering Sydney.
mate are you sure? what a dumb tiny selection to try make a point. Maybe did you forget they were top 4 the year before and the year before that?

some of you nerds think its a math quiz that you can try win on a technicality. Its not a coincidence that the best team usually wins it.

A patch of poor form that probably involved injuries to key players isn't the gotcha you think it is.
 
mate are you sure? what a dumb tiny selection to try make a point. Maybe did you forget they were top 4 the year before and the year before that?

some of you nerds think its a math quiz that you can try win on a technicality. Its not a coincidence that the best team usually wins it.

A patch of poor form that probably involved injuries to key players isn't the gotcha you think it is.
LOL. What "gotcha"? It's simply the facts.

Sure it's a small sample size, but your post was so definitive on that the top 4 thing, I would've thought you might have some actual evidence of it to back it up. Therefore it would stand a bit more scrutiny than just a quick look at last year.

Or are you now saying maybe it's not that black and white?
 
mate are you sure? what a dumb tiny selection to try make a point. Maybe did you forget they were top 4 the year before and the year before that?

some of you nerds think its a math quiz that you can try win on a technicality. Its not a coincidence that the best team usually wins it.

A patch of poor form that probably involved injuries to key players isn't the gotcha you think it is.
Certainly a novel approach to reclassify 'Being completely wrong as the basis of your argument didn't happen; in fact it was the opposite.' as 'A dumb tiny sample.' Must remember to try that one on at work if backed into a corner.
 
Fighting for more home games isn't the same thing as the draw.

Beating up twice on Norf, Eagles and Richmond in a season gives no confidence that the players and the game plan will stack up against quality opposition in September.

Of course it doesn't but it could be the difference between a home final or not
 
Certainly a novel approach to reclassify 'Being completely wrong as the basis of your argument didn't happen; in fact it was the opposite.' as 'A dumb tiny sample.' Must remember to try that one on at work if backed into a corner.
Call someone a wimp while you're at it. Goes down a treat.
 

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