Training Pre season training

[_Maximus_12]

Windhager was once our promising youngster who’d been banging down the door over summer trying to command a spot in the middle before succumbing to injuries. Now the door has been opened for him in the same nature it had been shut in the past. Massive opportunity for him.

 

[Diehard Saint]

OK
Last one , promise
Chat says;
This is concerning for St Kilda as stress fractures in the right femur can be a significant setback, especially for a young and developing midfielder like Mattaes Phillipou. Here's an analysis based on the details provided:

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Nature of the Injury​

• Stress Fracture in the Femur: A relatively rare but serious injury, particularly in the high-impact and physically demanding AFL. It indicates significant repetitive strain or biomechanical stress.
• Timing: The discovery of the injury during pre-season is crucial, as this allows for early intervention and minimizes the risk of worsening or displacement.

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Implications for Mattaes Phillipou​

1. Recovery Timeline:
   • Stress fractures in the femur typically require 3–6 months for recovery, depending on the severity and location (e.g., femoral neck or shaft).
   • A longer recovery period might be necessary if the fracture is near areas with poor blood supply or involves significant structural stress.
2. Rehabilitation Focus:
   • Initial rest to allow healing, with non-weight-bearing activities.
   • Gradual introduction of low-impact exercises, followed by strength training and sport-specific drills.
3. Long-Term Outlook:
   • With proper management, Phillipou has a good chance of returning to full fitness and regaining his agility, speed, and kicking strength.
   • However, rushing recovery could lead to complications or reinjury, so careful monitoring will be essential.

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Impact on St Kilda​

• Team Dynamics: Losing a young, promising midfielder at the start of the season may impact St Kilda's depth in the midfield rotation.
• Risk Management: The club's medical and training staff will need to carefully manage training loads for other players to avoid additional injuries.

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Conclusion​

Mattaes Phillipou's injury is a setback for both the player and St Kilda, but early detection and appropriate management should give him the best chance to recover fully. The club will need to support his rehabilitation carefully to ensure a smooth return later in the season.

Sooo, if he’d done his Left one all would’ve been good….









….Sorry, couldn’t resist

 

[SG34]

Sooo, if he’d done his Left one all would’ve been good….









….Sorry, couldn’t resist

You asked for it....

I asked , what about his left, and it assumed the right being already done..my bad

Chat:

In cases of a stress fracture in one femur (in this instance, Mattaes Phillipou's right femur), the left femur is typically unaffected unless there are underlying systemic or biomechanical issues. However, it’s important to consider a few factors to ensure his left leg remains healthy during recovery and beyond:

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Potential Risks to the Left Femur​

1. Overcompensation:
   • While recovering, Phillipou may unconsciously put extra weight or stress on his left leg to compensate for the injured right femur. This could increase the risk of overuse injuries, including stress fractures in the left femur or other parts of the leg (e.g., the tibia or foot).
2. Biomechanical Imbalances:
   • If there is an underlying biomechanical issue (e.g., leg-length discrepancy, gait abnormality, or muscle imbalance), it could predispose the left femur to similar stress.
3. Training Adjustments:
   • During rehabilitation, he might focus on single-leg exercises or other activities that strain the left leg more than usual, potentially creating additional risks.

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Preventative Measures for the Left Femur​

1. Balanced Rehabilitation:
   • Ensure the rehab program addresses both legs equally to avoid overloading the healthy side.
   • Gradual reintroduction of weight-bearing and running drills on both legs will help balance stress.
2. Gait and Biomechanical Assessments:
   • Regular assessments during recovery can identify and correct any compensatory patterns or imbalances.
3. Strength and Conditioning:
   • Exercises that strengthen both legs, with a focus on symmetry, will help protect the left femur from excessive stress.
4. Load Management:
   • Limit high-impact activities on the left leg during early stages of rehab and monitor training loads carefully when returning to play.

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Prognosis for the Left Femur​

If managed properly, Phillipou’s left femur should remain unaffected, and he can return to full strength and mobility without additional issues. Addressing any potential imbalances and avoiding overcompensation will be key to ensuring a smooth and complete recovery.

 

[stfan]

Sooo, if he’d done his Left one all would’ve been good….

I think you meant... if he’d done his Left one all would’ve been right...

 

[True Blue Saint]

Eugh, a bit of cautious optimism with me and my Saints mates in our group chat leading in to the season.

That's all gone now, season feels over before it's begun.

Without being there, and without being a medical expert - it's difficult to state with any clarity how the training loads have impacted Ro & Pou's injuries.

However, it would be prudent for the club to analyse their sports science department and methods to determine what the correlation is.

 

[luca77]

It's January guys, not September. Chill!

How good is summer (it's about -2 here atm), and not living in Gaza, Ukraine or the USA under the orange mist?

Life goes on. Those of us who buy memberships will continue to do so. David Lynch died, which sucked but life still goes on.

I'm drinking shiraz and eating camembert while skimming Bigfooty and watching Youtube tennis lessons. How bad can things be?

Maybe Matteus was running on concrete all summer? Who knows, but doubt it's Ross's fault, but some of you will find ways to blame him for everything. Opportunity will knock for some, we'll learn a thing or two. January! Decent drop, Japanese camembert not fantastic.

 

[Ads734]

I blame the club nutritionist for not telling the boys to drink milk

Fruit toast I think all about the fruit toast.

 

[Significant]

Eugh, a bit of cautious optimism with me and my Saints mates in our group chat leading in to the season.

That's all gone now, season feels over before it's begun.

Without being there, and without being a medical expert - it's difficult to state with any clarity how the training loads have impacted Ro & Pou's injuries.

However, it would be prudent for the club to analyse their sports science department and methods to determine what the correlation is.

This. A lot of opinion being thrown around as fact today. Think a few need a long cold shower and start again.

 

[pebblesofsand]

With Dougal and Ro out I’d like to see Barrat and Keeler selected. Hopefully they will play well in the practice games. Boyd can Ruck with Keeler and/or Caminiti giving a chop out.

Mattaes is just not replaceable though, that’s a shocker, hopefully 3 months only.

Max is going to have to step up big time early in the season or we’ll be in another winter of our hearts discontent.

Phillipou played four half decent games towards the end season.

He is replaceable.

 

[Reb_Soss]

The hard one with Pou is that the recovery period is likely to be around 10-14 weeks. However, he might end up needing a month to complete a fitness block to get back to some form of match fitness.

I heard it was 10-12 weeks including the training block.


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[gringo2011]

Sincs to full time mid for me. Sincs, McRae and Steele is still a very competitive midfield.

Half back flank up for grabs. I would give young Hastie a crack first. Trav and Tauru look to be a long way off.

Windhager also capable of playing the role even if he is a more defensive version.

Not a fan of Wilson off half back at all. He is a beautiful kick for goal and we will get the most out of his run if he plays wing IMO.

More than competitive, that would be our best midfield trio in 15+ years. 2 close to elite players and one A grade. Cohesion and leaving the back 6 thin might not be ideal but that looks like a strength. Marshall going down is bad though. Boyd might be the best investment we ever made.

To me Battle and Howard are the hardest to cover. Cordy probably covers Dougal, Battle's replacement is still not answered and the depth is thinning out.

 

[gringo2011]

Phillipou played four half decent games towards the end season.

He is replaceable.

Marshall is the biggest impact as far as performance goes but losing these young guys takes away the chance for a more rapid internal improvement. If we are to move forward we need to hold ground while having the youth step up.

We have plenty of others but he looked on the cusp of a breakout season. If you aren't disappointed by that you don't really care that much.

 

[Joffaboy]

I want to go back to last Wednesday when only Dow and Roh weren't at training.

I said looks like only a couple unavailable for R1.
Blame me

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[saintbill]

Phillipou played four half decent games towards the end season.

He is replaceable.

True. However, we were ordinary last year and we are going into this season having lost our 3rd best player last year.

To improve we are relying on some kids making the jump. Pou was the most likely.

It's a big deal.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Marshall is the biggest impact as far as performance goes but losing these young guys takes away the chance for a more rapid internal improvement. If we are to move forward we need to hold ground while having the youth step up.

We have plenty of others but he looked on the cusp of a breakout season. If you aren't disappointed by that you don't really care that much.

Big difference between disappointed in him not playing and him being "irreplaceable". Still leaves a possible midfield grouping of Steele, McCrae, Clark, Jones, Sinclair, Windhager, Dow, Carroll, Stocker, Garcia, Hall

The much maligned Howard is much more "irreplaceable" than Phillipou.

 

[BrutThough]

More than competitive, that would be our best midfield trio in 15+ years. 2 close to elite players and one A grade. Cohesion and leaving the back 6 thin might not be ideal but that looks like a strength. Marshall going down is bad though. Boyd might be the best investment we ever made.

To me Battle and Howard are the hardest to cover. Cordy probably covers Dougal, Battle's replacement is still not answered and the depth is thinning out.

Completely agree with this.

As much as Marshall is one of our best players, we at least have a mature option in Boyd (even though he's inexperienced) and we have to time practice structures in the midfield to help cover his absence. There will also be an increased onus on players like Wood to he marking targets across the but we've seen he has the ability to do that so it's coverable.

But the with backline, now having to cover two key pillars at once is a bigger ask. And given at least 1 is guarantee to be completely inexperienced at AFL level, it's an even tougher ask.

 

[PoppedCorn]

And this is why I should always remember not to feel positive.

Lol
****ing hell lucky then

 

[CanadianSaint]

Wow... negative town in here!

I get it, Im disappointed with the Pou injury, but it just gives another youngster a chance. Im most disappointed for the break in Pou's progress (which seemed to be aggressive this year) but he is just one player, we need 30 odd players minimum on this journey. Im looking forward to this giving both Garcia and Windy a shot. Neither should miss now, Windy gets a chance to pull a promising career out of a mediocure two year spell, and Garcia gets the chance to say 'I belong here, now, and not on the bench waiting for the 4th quarter'

Combine this with Boyd in the ruck and the Hammer down back, this is going to be fun!

 

[CaptainRisky]

It won't happen but he is not too small, body wise he is the strongest at the club, but he is a valuable forward.

Since when does having not played in defence preclude a player from a move. I garuantee half the posters on this forum have never played the game at any decent levels.

You know half the best defenders in the game started their careers as forwards surely?

If your going to try and make it personal at least get your spelling right

It was just my opinion and yes I'm pretty sure I know he is a very strong lad but that's not going to help you jump over someone 200cm which is the point I was making , He isn't a Key Back.

 

[Joffaboy]

Phillipou is not irreplaceable however he is not easily replaceable.

I know some are trying to look on the bright side and that is fine, but Phillipou is a very big loss.
Can't really be sugar coated. With Roh out as well this is a serious blow, especially with our early shocking draw.

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[phantom13]

I want to go back to last Wednesday when only Dow and Roh weren't at training.

I said looks like only a couple unavailable for R1.
Blame me

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We do, trust me we do

 

[Minga]

Carry on folks, carry on

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Given what's happened it would be nice ( if surprising ) if Jones stays fit.

 

[gringo2011]

Big difference between disappointed in him not playing and him being "irreplaceable". Still leaves a possible midfield grouping of Steele, McCrae, Clark, Jones, Sinclair, Windhager, Dow, Carroll, Stocker, Garcia, Hall

The much maligned Howard is much more "irreplaceable" than Phillipou.

No-one is irreplaceable but even small set backs are a hit to momentum, competition and enthusiasm of the squad and fans. Howard is a big loss because we really only have Cordy as ready made back up.

Hopefully Owens, King and Windhager can stay fit and move forward to off set the loss of Phillipou.

 

[gringo2011]

Given what's happened it would be nice ( if surprising ) if Jones stays fit.

And Windhager. It's a huge opportunity for him to make his push as a best 22 mid.