Training Pre Season - Who's deadset training the house down 2024 style.

[bedford]

Callipygian is a great contributor to this board and was just giving their perspective on today's session. Every bit of training insight we get from fellow fans we should be grateful for.

Correct , but he is too worried about nothing , has he watched much aussie rules training

 

[rustycrate]

How did Gus Sheldrick look?

Like he owns Parker

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Callipygian is a great contributor to this board and was just giving their perspective on today's session. Every bit of training insight we get from fellow fans we should be grateful for.

Aye. Getting first hand observations of training really makes the pre season interesting for Other Board contributors.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Hmmn… I see the Squaddie has been working on his observational skills. Terrific to see his note that Sheldrick has two arms and two legs.

 

[Nuggetz]

Imo playing Papley at centre bounces makes more sense with Grundy as our ruck, as he's more capable to hit it to Papley advantage who has shown to be effective in getting quick centre bounce clearances.

 

[Nuggetz]

Imo playing Papley at centre bounces makes more sense with Grundy as our ruck, as he's more capable to hit it to Papley advantage who has shown to be effective in getting quick centre bounce clearances.

I can imagine a centre bounce setup of Grundy/Adams/Rowbottom/Papley with Parker up forward & the likes of Gulden/Warner on the outside with Parker swapping with Papley for general play.

 

[RubbaDuck]

I remember seeing some stats a couple of years back that showed we won more CBs when Papley was in the middle. He is a great forward but also a great clearance player so if the mids need a chop out at some stage then he is Longmire's go-to.
There is nothing wrong with that and makes good football sense.

Heeney is also given midfield time as and when it suits his or the team's needs. Whether it's to change a dynamic - say, when a forward is being blanketed and finding it hard to have any impact - when a forward needs to find touch to get them into the game, or if a midfield is struggling and the ball simply isn't coming forward.

Lots of teams throw good forwards into the midfield for a stint for various reasons. It's pointless having a great forward standing idle inside 50 if the midfield is being smashed and all the action is up the other end.

 

[Nuggetz]

A Grundy/Papley fwd 50 stoppage combo could be very effective, I hope we've got plans for this setup. I can already see Papley bursting onto a Grundy tap & snapping for goal then celebrating by smacking a few blokes with his hi5s.

 

[RubbaDuck]

Papley very rarely plays as a midfielder. Attending a handful of centre bounces and then immediately returning to the forward line does not mean he is playing in the midfield, doing all the grunt work of chasing, contesting balls, linking up etc. When he does have a more extended run in the midfield (but still generally just a few minutes) it's invariably when he's struggling to get into the game stationed forward.

His role is not unique. Stringer is predominantly a forward but he also attends many centre bounces. Kossie Pickett does it. Cyril Rioli often did it. Cody Weightman talks about how he wants to do it.

Papley does it because he's reasonably good at winning clean takeaways at centre bounces, and has the speed to run the ball out (in a way that Parker, Rowbottom, Mills etc don't).

Toby Greene does it too. No-one doubts that he's a great forward but sometimes the ball just isn't coming in so he opts to fire up the mids.

 

[Nuggetz]

The versatility in our team is impressive, the coaches need to pull the right moves at the right time. Pressure in the coaches box will be sky high this season. I can't wait.

 

[RubbaDuck]

West Coast in the mid 2000s used the same strategy whenever they needed a boost. They'd throw Hunter forward and it would catch us out every bloody time. I used to wonder why they didn't just start him as a forward.

 

[Kiama Chris]

Correct , but he is too worried about nothing , has he watched much aussie rules training

Yep, he sure has.

 

[Jewelsbon]

Correct , Mondays are always not as intense , i'm worried about that poster , we are 31 days away and he's worried about this lol

Sorry Bedders but this comment is completely unwarranted, maybe you should be celebrating that we are actually getting first hand training reports and not criticising the poster because he has a particular concern.

 

[Callipygian]

I can't report anything much about Sheldrick other than that he was there. Most of the players did not make much of an impression on me but I did run through them all in my mind and make sure they were all present. I remember seeing him in his #12 and he possibly looked a little leaner.

I think I was distracted for a number of reasons including the heat and humidity, the fact that I found a credit card in the grass and was wandering around trying to see if it belonged to anybody (there were a few other fans/observers who had been standing around there and then moved along to a shadier spot), and because I am recovering from illness and was feeling fatigued.

There was no reason for the group not to be feeling fresh. They had been up at Coffs last week, played a match sim on the Wednesday and then had the next 4 days off. Unless that itself was the reason? Or maybe they partied too hard for Braeden's birthday and were feeling dusty? Or maybe it was just my imagination that intensity was down. Or they were saving it for a second indoor training session? I don't know.

The one player who made a little bit of an impression on me, as I already noted, was Chad. He was up on his toes. He also looked leaner. Fingers crossed he's set for a big season.

If the footy 'journos' got hold of my report and wanted to use it, I reckon their clickbait headline would be something like 'MYSTERY AILMENT KEEPS ERROL FROM TRAINING!' or something like that, and then, after publishing, they'd get a comment from the club and have a follow up article the next day with the 'breaking news' explanation and another series of clicks.

 

[JackHiscoxWasFast]

West Coast in the mid 2000s used the same strategy whenever they needed a boost. They'd throw Hunter forward and it would catch us out every bloody time. I used to wonder why they didn't just start him as a forward.

Not just Hunter. They had other techniques when they needed a boost.

 

[BloodySwan]

Heeney is also given midfield time as and when it suits his or the team's needs. Whether it's to change a dynamic - say, when a forward is being blanketed and finding it hard to have any impact - when a forward needs to find touch to get them into the game, or if a midfield is struggling and the ball simply isn't coming forward.

Lots of teams throw good forwards into the midfield for a stint for various reasons. It's pointless having a great forward standing idle inside 50 if the midfield is being smashed and all the action is up the other end.

Clarkson won premierships when he took Buddy and Roughead out of the F50 and into the middle. Some on this board would have lost it with the idea of a generational forward playing in the middle

 

[dosser]

West Coast in the mid 2000s used the same strategy whenever they needed a boost. They'd throw Hunter forward and it would catch us out every bloody time. I used to wonder why they didn't just start him as a forward.

Bloody Hunter! Thanks for the PTSD Duck

 

[SydneyPhilly]

West Coast in the mid 2000s used the same strategy whenever they needed a boost. They'd throw Hunter forward and it would catch us out every bloody time. I used to wonder why they didn't just start him as a forward.

Oh, I can answer this.

West Coast's tall forward stocks at the time weren't the best after Gardiner and maybe you could count Quentin Lynch.

You used to throw Hunter down back in a way similiar to many undersized backlines alongside Embley and Glass and make up the aggregate with one dedicated FB (Glass) and two taller non-KPP backs (Embley and Hunter)

Throwing Hunter forward would have meant robbing peter to pay paul, but it was necessary when the inefficiency of the Eagles forward line at the time was apparent. And then all they had to do was get their top of the league midfield to get on top of clearances and they'd have a better chance of things.

 

[bedford]

I can't report anything much about Sheldrick other than that he was there. Most of the players did not make much of an impression on me but I did run through them all in my mind and make sure they were all present. I remember seeing him in his #12 and he possibly looked a little leaner.

I think I was distracted for a number of reasons including the heat and humidity, the fact that I found a credit card in the grass and was wandering around trying to see if it belonged to anybody (there were a few other fans/observers who had been standing around there and then moved along to a shadier spot), and because I am recovering from illness and was feeling fatigued.

There was no reason for the group not to be feeling fresh. They had been up at Coffs last week, played a match sim on the Wednesday and then had the next 4 days off. Unless that itself was the reason? Or maybe they partied too hard for Braeden's birthday and were feeling dusty? Or maybe it was just my imagination that intensity was down. Or they were saving it for a second indoor training session? I don't know.

The one player who made a little bit of an impression on me, as I already noted, was Chad. He was up on his toes. He also looked leaner. Fingers crossed he's set for a big season.

If the footy 'journos' got hold of my report and wanted to use it, I reckon their clickbait headline would be something like 'MYSTERY AILMENT KEEPS ERROL FROM TRAINING!' or something like that, and then, after publishing, they'd get a comment from the club and have a follow up article the next day with the 'breaking news' explanation and another series of clicks.

Sorry if my comments were off , just thought you were worrying too much about a Monday in pre season after an intense week .
Keep up the good work though

 

[bedford]

Sorry Bedders but this comment is completely unwarranted, maybe you should be celebrating that we are actually getting first hand training reports and not criticising the poster because he has a particular concern.

Thanks for your input , this is getting like the over reaction to the Blues kid and Wayward

 

[Adnico26Parker]

A couple more media observations:

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-news/supercoach-afl-preseason-news-key-training-notes-from-the-track/news-story/cb576febaaee0671bf177695e8913380

 

[bedford]

A couple more media observations:

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https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/supercoach-news/supercoach-afl-preseason-news-key-training-notes-from-the-track/news-story/cb576febaaee0671bf177695e8913380

Supercoach thread i hope !

 

[caesar88]

My favourite part of this video is the bit where the camera doesn't shake. It came right about the 2.36 mark

 

[Kiama Chris]

My favourite part of this video is the bit where the camera doesn't shake. It came right about the 2.36 mark

Dear Dog, how does the ump ever get anything right?

 

[RUNVS]

The positive of Mills injury is that he can run while recovering, which means when he gets back he won't have to spend ages getting fit.