A Section Premier section 2022

[Over The Post]

WILLIAM BUCK PREMIER FINALS 2022 2nd SEMIFINAL ELSTERNWICK 2pm SAT 3/9	PRELIMINARY FINAL ELSTERNWICK 2:15pm SUN 11/9	GRAND FINAL TREVOR BARKER 2:30pm SUN 18/9
St Kevins
Collegians	Collegians	St Kevins
1st SEMIFINAL TREVOR BARKER 2:30pm SUN 4/9	vs	vs
Old Xaverians	Old Brighton	Old Brighton
Old Brighton

WILLIAM BUCK PREMIER RESERVE 2022 2nd SEMIFINAL TREVOR BARKER 12pm SUN 4/9	PRELIMINARY FINAL ELSTERNWICK 11:40am SUN 11/9	GRAND FINAL TOORAK PARK 1pm SUN 18/9
Old Xaverians
Old Melburnians	Old Melburnians	Old Xaverians
1st SEMIFINAL ELSTERNWICK 11:40am SAT 3/9	vs	vs
Old Scotch	Old Scotch	Old Scotch
St Bernards

 

[flat footy]

Good discussion this week fellas.

I would abolish the points system. Doesn't work in the VAFA and puts significant stress on over-stretched volunteers for mine. APS schools dominate the AFL and football in general these days so very little VAFA can do about their diversity issue. different rules for different clubs is crazy to me.....do whitefairs get less points than Beauy?

Moving on.

Prediction time.

SKOB to beat the streaking OCs. All good things come to a end and I'm biased enough to think this is the time for OCs. The predicted rain might help SKOB strangle OC and slow up their main man Mirra. PS good example of a club that didn't panic and sack a coach when things were looking good. Look for the lighter bodies runners of SKOB to hurt the OCs stars on the counter attack. T Jok best on ground.
Xavs to crush the tonners. Just way too much talent.

In summary it will be a weekend for the Catholics.

Gotta agree with MIO regretfully, with his Skobs over Colls. Xavs V OB?....no contest.

 

[Jascave]

If someone said to you several years ago prior to COVID-19 that the Premier C Grand Final and not the Premier Grand Final was the final on-field game for season 2022, what would the reaction be? Hard to believe that Premier C will now be in the final round of the H&A season, while Premier B and Premier are starting their finals series this weekend. Wonder what the late Noel Rundle would've made of it all.

 

[Gun Island]

If someone said to you several years ago prior to COVID-19 that the Premier C Grand Final and not the Premier Grand Final was the final on-field game for season 2022, what would the reaction be? Hard to believe that Premier C will now be in the final round of the H&A season, while Premier B and Premier are starting their finals series this weekend. Wonder what the late Noel Rundle would've made of it all.

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[Gun Island]

What predicted rain , a shower or 2 .


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[HedgeFund]

If someone said to you several years ago prior to COVID-19 that the Premier C Grand Final and not the Premier Grand Final was the final on-field game for season 2022, what would the reaction be? Hard to believe that Premier C will now be in the final round of the H&A season, while Premier B and Premier are starting their finals series this weekend. Wonder what the late Noel Rundle would've made of it all.

He would’ve gone straight to the ‘Wick for a couple of jugs of Carlton with Norm Nugent and Ken Petrucco.

 

[SeaSide]

The lower the league, the higher the points cap? I could get onboard with that. A higher cap in the divisions as opposed to A-C.

Therefore you’re happy to respect and help clubs with no juniors, clubs that poach players from other clubs as against amateur district clubs who encourage, train with, teach and encourage their juniors?

 

[Penski]

Therefore you’re happy to respect and help clubs with no juniors, clubs that poach players from other clubs as against amateur district clubs who encourage, train with, teach and encourage their juniors?

What a useless post. You've literally just said, "Clubs with no juniors are bad and shouldn't exist, and all clubs with juniors are beyond reproach".

My post was all about potentially having more quality players available to the lower grades, because the lower points cap may ensure a further spread of talent. Thinking of ways of working together makes this happen, not useless bickering like you've displayed perfectly with your response.

 

[Mr Platinum]

What a useless post. You've literally just said, "Clubs with no juniors are bad and shouldn't exist, and all clubs with juniors are beyond reproach".

My post was all about potentially having more quality players available to the lower grades, because the lower points cap may ensure a further spread of talent. Thinking of ways of working together makes this happen, not useless bickering like you've displayed perfectly with your response.

Mr Ski,
May I suggest to all and sundry that the biggest threat to the lower grade clubs does not come from the higher grade clubs, maybe excepting OB and UB, but from the paying competitions.

I agree with your comment regarding the previous post by Mr Side, it doesn’t garner healthy debate.

I for one don’t believe in a points cap, I never have and never will, but that’s just little old me.

 

[Penski]

Mr Ski,
May I suggest to all and sundry that the biggest threat to the lower grade clubs does not come from the higher grade clubs, maybe excepting OB and UB, but from the paying competitions.

I agree with your comment regarding the previous post by Mr Side, it doesn’t garner healthy debate.

I for one don’t believe in a points cap, I never have and never will, but that’s just little old me.

The points cap has been proven to be largely useless in the VAFA (at least in the top grades). Not sure how it's played out between other competitions.

Altering the points cap is only ever really going to affect one club in Premier unless something drastic is done (UB's lowest points total this season was 42). Interestingly though that Blacks always seemed to be around the 38/39 point mark at most this season. Blues inability to attract one pointers might speak more to their club and culture, rather than their situation.

 

[Mike Olotripo]

I'll be sticking with my lions this Saturday and Old Xavs in a tight one on Sunday down at HQ.

 

[XXXXAFL]

SKOBAFL and OXAFL this week.

 

[Mr Platinum]

Catholics United this week.

 

[SeaSide]

Mr Ski,
May I suggest to all and sundry that the biggest threat to the lower grade clubs does not come from the higher grade clubs, maybe excepting OB and UB, but from the paying competitions.

I agree with your comment regarding the previous post by Mr Side, it doesn’t garner healthy debate.

I for one don’t believe in a points cap, I never have and never will, but that’s just little old me.

I did not say “Clubs with no juniors are bad and shouldn't exist, and all clubs with juniors are beyond reproach", nor did I infer it.

College-based teams have a huge advantage due to allegiance.

My post wasn’t to denigrate struggling clubs but to show the advantages of having a junior pathway. I had hoped I was being positive: not one of my previous posts has ever denigrated another club.

I haven’t mentioned a ‘points cap.

District clubs work hard to foster their juniors, many of which have reaped the benefits and are in the Premier grades, viz: -
Beaumaris SMJFL
Fitzroy YJFL
Hampton Rovers SMJFL
Ormond SMJFL
Parkdale Vultures Arrangements with various Junior clubs
Preston Bullants YJFL
St Bedes/Mentone Tigers SMJFL
Williamstown WRFL

District clubs with juniors or junior affiliates are moving upwards, viz: -

Kew YJFL
Glen Eira Arrangements with various Junior clubs
Prahran SMJFL
Oakleigh SMJFL
Brunswick YJFL
Bulleen Templestowe YJFL
Ivanhoe YJFL
West Brunswick Arrangements with various Junior clubs
South Melbourne Districts SMJFL
Canterbury YJFL
Parkside YJFL
Richmond Central YJFL?
North Brunswick YJFL?

If I’ve made mistakes, or overlooked, I’m sorry and happy to be corrected.

Quote, “I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it”.
Thomas Jefferson
US President 1801-1809

 

[Champ or Chump]

As there seems to be significant challenges/advantages that look to be aligned to if you are associated with a school or not - what if we had two competitions within the VAFA that then had divisions?

APS/AGS in one competition and District clubs in another.

Approx 8 teams in each divison / 14 home and away games / final 4 / 1 up and 1 down

Could this provide a more evenly based starting point?

Could it provide the VAFA with a springboard to get more clubs?

Could we have a Super Bowl between the two 'conferences'

Could I have enjoyed too much Red wine this evening?

Night. Chump

 

[XXXXAFL]

Let’s hope tomorrows game at Sandy is as brutal as todays game!

 

[Mr Platinum]

Let’s hope tomorrows game at Sandy is as brutal as todays game!

A great effort by Mr Lynch and his young SKOB Amateurs. Tomorrow promises to be an absolute corker!

 

[XXXXAFL]

Let’s hope tomorrows game at Sandy is as brutal as todays game!

Also how poor is the Elsternwick Park surface? Bald. No grass!

 

[Over The Post]

Not only that, but the heavy rain earlier in the week lifted all the grass clippings and washed it out, on Wednesday it was like windrows of yellow chaff on top of what remained.

 

[RednWhite]

I did not say “Clubs with no juniors are bad and shouldn't exist, and all clubs with juniors are beyond reproach", nor did I infer it.

College-based teams have a huge advantage due to allegiance.

My post wasn’t to denigrate struggling clubs but to show the advantages of having a junior pathway. I had hoped I was being positive: not one of my previous posts has ever denigrated another club.

I haven’t mentioned a ‘points cap.

District clubs work hard to foster their juniors, many of which have reaped the benefits and are in the Premier grades, viz: -
Beaumaris SMJFL
Fitzroy YJFL
Hampton Rovers SMJFL
Ormond SMJFL
Parkdale Vultures Arrangements with various Junior clubs
Preston Bullants YJFL
St Bedes/Mentone Tigers SMJFL
Williamstown WRFL

District clubs with juniors or junior affiliates are moving upwards, viz: -

Kew YJFL
Glen Eira Arrangements with various Junior clubs
Prahran SMJFL
Oakleigh SMJFL
Brunswick YJFL
Bulleen Templestowe YJFL
Ivanhoe YJFL
West Brunswick Arrangements with various Junior clubs
South Melbourne Districts SMJFL
Canterbury YJFL
Parkside YJFL
Richmond Central YJFL?
North Brunswick YJFL?

If I’ve made mistakes, or overlooked, I’m sorry and happy to be corrected.

Quote, “I'm a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it”.
Thomas Jefferson
US President 1801-1809

UHSVU was in Prem C. VHSVU and Preston go down to Div 1 next season.

 

[SeaSide]

UHSVU was in Prem C. VHSVU and Preston go down to Div 1 next season.

I did write, "If I’ve made mistakes, or overlooked, I’m sorry and happy to be corrected".
This year, 2022 both UHS-VU and Preston Bullants are in Premier C. NEXT year 2023 they will most likely be in Division 1.
Preston Bullants is a District Club.
UHS-VU is not a district club.
My missive also stated, "College-based teams have a huge advantage due to allegiance".

 

[SeaSide]

As there seems to be significant challenges/advantages that look to be aligned to if you are associated with a school or not - what if we had two competitions within the VAFA that then had divisions?

APS/AGS in one competition and District clubs in another.

Approx 8 teams in each divison / 14 home and away games / final 4 / 1 up and 1 down

Could this provide a more evenly based starting point?

Could it provide the VAFA with a springboard to get more clubs?

Could we have a Super Bowl between the two 'conferences'

Could I have enjoyed too much Red wine this evening?

Night. Chump

Quote, "Could I have enjoyed too much Red wine this evening?"
A. Yep

 

[XXXXAFL]

Not only that, but the heavy rain earlier in the week lifted all the grass clippings and washed it out, on Wednesday it was like windrows of yellow chaff on top of what remained.

Players being helped off the field with serious lower leg injuries is a result of this piss poor surface today.

 

[Champ or Chump]

Quote, "Could I have enjoyed too much Red wine this evening?"
A. Yep

Yeah - why look to change, evolve, innovate anything - everything is perfect with our competition

Chump

 

[SeaSide]

Yeah - why look to change, evolve, innovate anything - everything is perfect with our competition

Chump

Yep, sort of.

 

[bedford]

Players being helped off the field with serious lower leg injuries is a result of this piss poor surface today.

This is the trouble with contractors , i presume it's Citywide , they don't give a stuff .