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Which of these players do you think will be selected in the Crows' Round 1 team?

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StonesThrow said:
Thoughts after the pre season:

I don't normally make big calls but I'm fairly bullish this year. I reckon we're gonna push for the 8. We've got former leaders looking good without the captaincy burden. Our actual captain is an elite talent. Laird is looking like a beast again in the midfield. Our next gen I think will take the next step.

Sharpest pre season I've seen in a while. We've looked pretty average for quite a few years now so it's nice for a change. Look sharp with skills and ball movement.

Positives:
Rankine could really be anything. We were building a strong forward line but he takes it to another level. Quiet tonight but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

Two big calls - Soligo has elite potential and I see some young ablett junior in Rachele. Soligo oozes class and rarely does anything wrong. Rachele turned a corner. Looked hungry at the contest and is a class above when he gets it. Has agility, smarts and very powerful. Going to be exciting watching where these two end up as players.

Fog showing he's locked in that good form from last year. Starting to win a fair amount of 1v1s against good defenders. Huge talent.

Berry top 10 bnf coming up. He's adding strings to his bow. A grade is all we need from him.

Laird looking even better. His midfield craft can still improve and he's shown good signs so far.

Schoenberg very strong pre season. Adds a different dynamic to the midfield as his first instinct is to take the game on and regularly gets the ball at pace. Disposal looks tidier than the same time last year.

Parnell has arrived as a small defender. Defends well and is a natural attacking footballer when he has the ball. Smart player

Michalaney looks very very good. Natural footballer and strong 1v1. Has built a decent frame in one pre season. Will play games and perform.

Who wouldn't want Hinge in their best 22? Highly underrated player imo. Has all the traits you look for and underrated disposal.

Sloane pretty good on the wing.

McAdam looks to have taken his game to another level. Will be really interesting to see where he ends up this year. Starting to look like an experienced footballer. Could already see signs of this last year.

Doedee cops a lot of crap, but I thought he had a pretty decent pre season. Strong defensively. Not taking a huge amount of intercepts though.

Dawson is Dawson. I don't have a problem playing him in defence. Our defence looks a bit shaky still and he's a rock back there. The way the game is played now he's still able to set up play in the forward half anyway.

Himmelberg very solid pre season and starting to look like he feels he belongs at afl level. A decent part time ruck and uses the ball really well.

Keane looked really promising.

Didn't mind Brown actually. Has a good inside game.

Dowling also showed some nice signs. Great size.

Both Murphy and McHenry out of the 1st team! This might actually be the biggest positive of the pre season! We've gone from having a plodder small forward line to a very slick and dangerous one.

Negatives:

Butts and Murray. Not terrible, but they didn't fill me with huge confidence going into the season. I don't love that we're looking to use Butts more as an outlet out of defence. He's got okay disposal, but has limits. Murray misses a lot of targets for someone who has a nice looking kick on him. Hasn't really improved this area.

TT didn't put his hand up unfortunately. I don't have concerns long term, but would have been nice for him to stand up.

Hamill overtaken by Parnell. I really like Hamill so I'm a bit bummed that he's been pushed out. However he's been replaced by someone who has him covered in most areas other than 1v1 and height. So we're no worse off.

Rucks are mediocre. I don't care so much about this so long as the opposing ruck isn't dominating. Would be happy to replace ROB with Himm and TT doing half half. Gets TT into the game.

Other notes:

Pedlar looked to be trying too hard in the first two matches. Just wasn't working for him. West Coast game was very different and you can see why the club likes him. Hopefully that was the game the settles him down and we start to see him flourish.

Milera didn't stand out like I was hoping. Thought he was okay. Used the ball well and was calm under pressure. Didn't take the game on as much as I'd like. Hopefully he gets that confidence back as there's still a role for him imo.

Not sure what to do with Crouch and Keays. Looks like they've decided that Keays will be a role player up forward. Crouch had a very good pre season but I really don't think there's a spot for him given we need to prioritise Berry, Schoenberg and Soligo with majority midfield time (outside of laird). It would be nice to get some trade value out of him but that's not going to happen if he's plonked in the Sanfl. Tricky one.
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Excellent summary. I couldn't agree more.
 
StonesThrow said:
Thoughts after the pre season:

I don't normally make big calls but I'm fairly bullish this year. I reckon we're gonna push for the 8. We've got former leaders looking good without the captaincy burden. Our actual captain is an elite talent. Laird is looking like a beast again in the midfield. Our next gen I think will take the next step.

Sharpest pre season I've seen in a while. We've looked pretty average for quite a few years now so it's nice for a change. Look sharp with skills and ball movement.

Positives:
Rankine could really be anything. We were building a strong forward line but he takes it to another level. Quiet tonight but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

Two big calls - Soligo has elite potential and I see some young ablett junior in Rachele. Soligo oozes class and rarely does anything wrong. Rachele turned a corner. Looked hungry at the contest and is a class above when he gets it. Has agility, smarts and very powerful. Going to be exciting watching where these two end up as players.

Fog showing he's locked in that good form from last year. Starting to win a fair amount of 1v1s against good defenders. Huge talent.

Berry top 10 bnf coming up. He's adding strings to his bow. A grade is all we need from him.

Laird looking even better. His midfield craft can still improve and he's shown good signs so far.

Schoenberg very strong pre season. Adds a different dynamic to the midfield as his first instinct is to take the game on and regularly gets the ball at pace. Disposal looks tidier than the same time last year.

Parnell has arrived as a small defender. Defends well and is a natural attacking footballer when he has the ball. Smart player

Michalaney looks very very good. Natural footballer and strong 1v1. Has built a decent frame in one pre season. Will play games and perform.

Who wouldn't want Hinge in their best 22? Highly underrated player imo. Has all the traits you look for and underrated disposal.

Sloane pretty good on the wing.

McAdam looks to have taken his game to another level. Will be really interesting to see where he ends up this year. Starting to look like an experienced footballer. Could already see signs of this last year.

Doedee cops a lot of crap, but I thought he had a pretty decent pre season. Strong defensively. Not taking a huge amount of intercepts though.

Dawson is Dawson. I don't have a problem playing him in defence. Our defence looks a bit shaky still and he's a rock back there. The way the game is played now he's still able to set up play in the forward half anyway.

Himmelberg very solid pre season and starting to look like he feels he belongs at afl level. A decent part time ruck and uses the ball really well.

Keane looked really promising.

Didn't mind Brown actually. Has a good inside game.

Dowling also showed some nice signs. Great size.

Both Murphy and McHenry out of the 1st team! This might actually be the biggest positive of the pre season! We've gone from having a plodder small forward line to a very slick and dangerous one.

Negatives:

Butts and Murray. Not terrible, but they didn't fill me with huge confidence going into the season. I don't love that we're looking to use Butts more as an outlet out of defence. He's got okay disposal, but has limits. Murray misses a lot of targets for someone who has a nice looking kick on him. Hasn't really improved this area.

TT didn't put his hand up unfortunately. I don't have concerns long term, but would have been nice for him to stand up.

Hamill overtaken by Parnell. I really like Hamill so I'm a bit bummed that he's been pushed out. However he's been replaced by someone who has him covered in most areas other than 1v1 and height. So we're no worse off.

Rucks are mediocre. I don't care so much about this so long as the opposing ruck isn't dominating. Would be happy to replace ROB with Himm and TT doing half half. Gets TT into the game.

Other notes:

Pedlar looked to be trying too hard in the first two matches. Just wasn't working for him. West Coast game was very different and you can see why the club likes him. Hopefully that was the game the settles him down and we start to see him flourish.

Milera didn't stand out like I was hoping. Thought he was okay. Used the ball well and was calm under pressure. Didn't take the game on as much as I'd like. Hopefully he gets that confidence back as there's still a role for him imo.

Not sure what to do with Crouch and Keays. Looks like they've decided that Keays will be a role player up forward. Crouch had a very good pre season but I really don't think there's a spot for him given we need to prioritise Berry, Schoenberg and Soligo with majority midfield time (outside of laird). It would be nice to get some trade value out of him but that's not going to happen if he's plonked in the Sanfl. Tricky one.
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“Not sure what to do with Crouch and Keays. Looks like they've decided that Keays will be a role player up forward.”

one of them comes off the bench/ or is sub.. the other, probably Mcrouch, wins the Magarey..

crouch’s trade value is junk status regardless... even with his pretty good form in the Freo and club trial games.. no one’s paying us anything decent in a trade if that does happen at seasons end.
 

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Bearded Clam said:
“Not sure what to do with Crouch and Keays. Looks like they've decided that Keays will be a role player up forward.”

one of them comes off the bench/ or is sub.. the other, probably Mcrouch, wins the Magarey..

crouch’s trade value is junk status regardless... even with his pretty good form in the Freo and club trial games.. no one’s paying us anything decent in a trade if that does happen at seasons end.
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St Kilda might want Matt……..to replace Brad.😉
 
ams4crows said:
Rachele and Rankine definitely enjoying themselves good to see they are bonding off field will help with connection
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Which is going to show the most party tricks this season...
 
Bearded Clam said:
“Not sure what to do with Crouch and Keays. Looks like they've decided that Keays will be a role player up forward.”

one of them comes off the bench/ or is sub.. the other, probably Mcrouch, wins the Magarey..

crouch’s trade value is junk status regardless... even with his pretty good form in the Freo and club trial games.. no one’s paying us anything decent in a trade if that does happen at seasons end.
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crouch is a free agent.
 

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Just a cursory look on the GWS game thread for R1, there seems to be a bit of a consensus on this side being their best unit for R1..to my eye, with a new coach and a better game plan, we are really going to have our work cut out here - that is a very strong looking side on paper

B: Connor Idun, Sam Taylor, Isaac Cumming
HB: Lachie Whitfield, Nick Haynes, Lachie Ash
C: Finn Callaghan, Harry Perryman, Jacob Wehr
HF: Josh Kelly, Jake Riccardi, James Peatling
F: Toby Greene (c), Harry Himmelberg, Jesse Hogan
R: Brayden Preuss, Tom Green, Stephen Coniglio
IC: Leek Aleer, Callan Ward, Conor Stone, Adam Kennedy.
Sub: Xavier O'Halloran
 
Bearded Clam said:
Forgot about that!..

Makes it even worse.. we’ll get even less or nothing at all..
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I mean if he magically rebounds and becomes a top line performer, he's an easy re-sign.

Still, it looks to be a safe call that '23 is Crouch last year as an AFL player. A pretty sad end, if so.
 
Crow till I die said:
Just a cursory look on the GWS game thread for R1, there seems to be a bit of a consensus on this side being their best unit for R1..to my eye, with a new coach and a better game plan, we are really going to have our work cut out here - that is a very strong looking side on paper

B: Connor Idun, Sam Taylor, Isaac Cumming
HB: Lachie Whitfield, Nick Haynes, Lachie Ash
C: Finn Callaghan, Harry Perryman, Jacob Wehr
HF: Josh Kelly, Jake Riccardi, James Peatling
F: Toby Greene (c), Harry Himmelberg, Jesse Hogan
R: Brayden Preuss, Tom Green, Stephen Coniglio
IC: Leek Aleer, Callan Ward, Conor Stone, Adam Kennedy.
Sub: Xavier O'Halloran
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Yes, they certainly seem fired up (especially after Green and Callaghan signing on). Will be a good test for our lads and a step up from the WA trials.
 
Crow till I die said:
Just a cursory look on the GWS game thread for R1, there seems to be a bit of a consensus on this side being their best unit for R1..to my eye, with a new coach and a better game plan, we are really going to have our work cut out here - that is a very strong looking side on paper

B: Connor Idun, Sam Taylor, Isaac Cumming
HB: Lachie Whitfield, Nick Haynes, Lachie Ash
C: Finn Callaghan, Harry Perryman, Jacob Wehr
HF: Josh Kelly, Jake Riccardi, James Peatling
F: Toby Greene (c), Harry Himmelberg, Jesse Hogan
R: Brayden Preuss, Tom Green, Stephen Coniglio
IC: Leek Aleer, Callan Ward, Conor Stone, Adam Kennedy.
Sub: Xavier O'Halloran
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Last year they absolutely torched us in the contest, dominating contested possessions and thrashing us 20-4 in contested marks.

Their bigger bodies seem to cause us the most issues.
 
Crow till I die said:
Just a cursory look on the GWS game thread for R1, there seems to be a bit of a consensus on this side being their best unit for R1..to my eye, with a new coach and a better game plan, we are really going to have our work cut out here - that is a very strong looking side on paper

B: Connor Idun, Sam Taylor, Isaac Cumming
HB: Lachie Whitfield, Nick Haynes, Lachie Ash
C: Finn Callaghan, Harry Perryman, Jacob Wehr
HF: Josh Kelly, Jake Riccardi, James Peatling
F: Toby Greene (c), Harry Himmelberg, Jesse Hogan
R: Brayden Preuss, Tom Green, Stephen Coniglio
IC: Leek Aleer, Callan Ward, Conor Stone, Adam Kennedy.
Sub: Xavier O'Halloran
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Their forward line being covered by our defence will be how we beat them.
Would expect our forwards to get on top of their defenders.
 
whattagun07 said:
apparently Buckley and the Five minute fireman were pumping up our tyres a fair bit this morning. I only caught the very back end of it when they were talking about Fog. Kane is a fan. Bucks not convinced.
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Yeah, but Bucks hangs around with Mr Bean… 5FD6788E-27A1-47AE-B36F-AC49E40F570E.jpeg
 
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Crow till I die said:
Just a cursory look on the GWS game thread for R1, there seems to be a bit of a consensus on this side being their best unit for R1..to my eye, with a new coach and a better game plan, we are really going to have our work cut out here - that is a very strong looking side on paper

B: Connor Idun, Sam Taylor, Isaac Cumming
HB: Lachie Whitfield, Nick Haynes, Lachie Ash
C: Finn Callaghan, Harry Perryman, Jacob Wehr
HF: Josh Kelly, Jake Riccardi, James Peatling
F: Toby Greene (c), Harry Himmelberg, Jesse Hogan
R: Brayden Preuss, Tom Green, Stephen Coniglio
IC: Leek Aleer, Callan Ward, Conor Stone, Adam Kennedy.
Sub: Xavier O'Halloran
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It's easy to fall into that presumption. Yes, last year they thrashed us mainly because of bigger bodies.

However, I watched a bit of the GWS-GC match and it was starkly different from ours. Yes, GWS looked great, running freely and delivering well, but GC seemed to apply little pressure. GWS were by themselves most of the time. We can beat them if we apply the pressure we have been applying this pre-season
 
whattagun07 said:
apparently Buckley and the Five minute fireman were pumping up our tyres a fair bit this morning. I only caught the very back end of it when they were talking about Fog. Kane is a fan. Bucks not convinced.
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Kane said Fog is the biggest improver he has EVER seen in a player 12 mths. Mentioned 31 goals last half of last year and could win Coleman this year if we have a decent year. Bucks said not convinced about him as yet. Needs to see more to be convinced

Around 7am Bucks raised the 'Adelaide Crows' as one of his top 5 highlights from the Preseason. Mentioned a number of 'no name players' that are good Berry, Schoey, Mc Adam, Himmelberg, Keays, KPD's, and talented forward line names.

Overall very complimentary towards the team and said we were the big winners of the pre season. Bucks also said very impressed with the club over the last 14 months (assume Burgess apt etc) and praised Nicks for playing a hard, frenetic style of play. There will be no easy wins against us. Kane said we were pound for pound the most talented team meaning we extract maximum results from the ability of our players. Kane also said we are better than anyone is giving us credit for and can challenge for the 8

Most compliments I can remember hearing on SEN for many years..
 

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