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Which of these players do you think will be selected in the Crows' Round 1 team?


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He had the number in his phone, he knew who it was. He didn’t ring, didn’t need to

Same as the faux outrage, my kids were in the car…

As if they didn’t already know he was a weak kampaigner

I think it’s bit of a myth that Milera brings his weapons like before

Yes we have seen flashes before his injuries but largely I think that Milera took easy options with short low risk kicks and didn’t use his pace to break lines

On large he has teases us but hasn’t really caused opposition to many headaches


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I think it’s bit of a myth that Milera brings his weapons like before

Yes we have seen flashes before his injuries but largely I think that Milera took easy options with short low risk kicks and didn’t use his pace to break lines

On large he has teases us but hasn’t really caused opposition to many headaches


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He still looks overweight in some of vision and photos seen .
Just feel he is not going to be the star he tantalised us with those early moves in career.
We just need some of our 1st round picks to really produce like him ,Pedlar,TT, Jones ,McCasey,Rachelle even Doedee to stay fully fit to fulfil our draft commitment and achieve results we shou
Anyone got the quote re Milera playing at half next year ?

Looks like it’s happening

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My concern here is that we already have the half back line covered with players like smith hammil who has been training the house down over the last few weeks Dawson and potentially doedee and max we also have worrell needing to get a spot in the back half and until injured was one of our best if not best in the training sim

Worrell could be anything this year and he is out of contract at seasons end. We need to bed him down in the back
Half or play him elsewhere. On the wing or up forward if he cannot break into the 23 each week

This glut of half backs is the death knell for moose who has not repeated the form of a few years ago
 
I think the ideal backline has Butts, Murray and Worrell with Jones, Milera and Hamill.

Reasons are that Butts and Murray are lock down, Eorrell provides medium sized defense. Then you have Hanill and Jobes speed and Milera as creative HB. Smith lends support.

Means Smith plays wing and switching with Jones. Dawson moves up the field as he should and I would prefer we play Doedee further up into the midfield.

It's a different look but I reckon it would work.
 
I think the ideal backline has Butts, Murray and Worrell with Jones, Milera and Hamill.

Reasons are that Butts and Murray are lock down, Eorrell provides medium sized defense. Then you have Hanill and Jobes speed and Milera as creative HB. Smith lends support.

Means Smith plays wing and switching with Jones. Dawson moves up the field as he should and I would prefer we play Doedee further up into the midfield.

It's a different look but I reckon it would work.
no doedee??
 
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I am not sure if it is an issue or not but josh Rochelle left training early and went up the race with a trainer I hope he has not re-aggravated his hip injury

No fog or Mcadam at last training
 
The training block this season has been impressive so far

Worrell hammil murray Pedlar Nankervis Soligo Milera all training well

Impressed with filthy’s marking strength in last training session

Rankine and Rochelle looking to develop an good partnership up forward

Dawson continuing to impress

Early season form will be critical in trial games to getting in 22

Mcasey and Seedsman not on track yet. Decision time soon

We Will be better this year but most other teams look to have improved their lists too

We need to win first game against GWS who have had our measure in recent years. Good away win could turbo charge our year

All 3 young recruits doing well and improving In confidence
 
The training block this season has been impressive so far

Worrell hammil murray Pedlar Nankervis Soligo Milera all training well

Impressed with filthy’s marking strength in last training session

Rankine and Rochelle looking to develop an good partnership up forward

Dawson continuing to impress

Early season form will be critical in trial games to getting in 22

Mcasey and Seedsman not on track yet. Decision time soon

We Will be better this year but most other teams look to have improved their lists too

We need to win first game against GWS who have had our measure in recent years. Good away win could turbo charge our year

All 3 young recruits doing well and improving In confidence
Love your work bigman! Keep em coming
 
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My concern here is that we already have the half back line covered with players like smith hammil who has been training the house down over the last few weeks Dawson and potentially doedee and max we also have worrell needing to get a spot in the back half and until injured was one of our best if not best in the training sim

Worrell could be anything this year and he is out of contract at seasons end. We need to bed him down in the back
Half or play him elsewhere. On the wing or up forward if he cannot break into the 23 each week

This glut of half backs is the death knell for moose who has not repeated the form of a few years ago

If they’re planning to play Milera at halfback then Dawson would be playing wing
 

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Hard to disagree with most of that.

Points out our strange obsession with picking the same type of midfielder and also that out midfield is one of the worst in the comp.

I dont think we will finish bottom 2 simply because it looks like we have a fairly easy draw and we have the “interstate home ground advantage” that always sees us snag a couple of wins a year against good sides that we werent expected to win..
 
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My concern here is that we already have the half back line covered with players like smith hammil who has been training the house down over the last few weeks Dawson and potentially doedee and max we also have worrell needing to get a spot in the back half and until injured was one of our best if not best in the training sim

Worrell could be anything this year and he is out of contract at seasons end. We need to bed him down in the back
Half or play him elsewhere. On the wing or up forward if he cannot break into the 23 each week

This glut of half backs is the death knell for moose who has not repeated the form of a few years ago
dont worry worrell is playing all games this year but needs to be signed agree

hamill is the more dubious prospect - has the pace we need but I think pretty obvious hes one more concussion from retirement
 
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My concern here is that we already have the half back line covered with players like smith hammil who has been training the house down over the last few weeks Dawson and potentially doedee and max we also have worrell needing to get a spot in the back half and until injured was one of our best if not best in the training sim

Worrell could be anything this year and he is out of contract at seasons end. We need to bed him down in the back
Half or play him elsewhere. On the wing or up forward if he cannot break into the 23 each week

This glut of half backs is the death knell for moose who has not repeated the form of a few years ago
Don’t really agree re half back as think the high possession elite kicking running half back that helps us move the ball out of defence is a huge weakness

Part of the reason why Dawson plays back there is the way he helps ball movement with his kicking (together with his aerial support for key defenders )

There is way more talent for Milera to compete with at half forward so I think half back or wing is better for him , if he doesn’t play well he doesn’t get picked and if he plays well and we have Doedee and Worrell down there then I see Dawson playing wing where he should be
 
no doedee??
Nope I am pushing that he should be playing midfield.

Doedee playing defense means the club starts to play with the idea of dropping Worrell. Whilst a great intercept marl, so is Dawson and both can be used elsewhere.

If Dude in defense doesn't threaten Worrell then it makes them think about moving Jones, Hammill or Milera out of there (the caveat here being that Milera can be on form).

Having Smith (given Seeds isn't back anytime soon if ever) Dawson and Doedee higher is better overall for forward entry. Otherwise we rely on loopy kicks from Laird, haphazard from Keays, or putting it all on Soligo, Berry, Schoey
 

Hard to disagree with most of that.

Points out our strange obsession with picking the same type of midfielder and also that out midfield is one of the worst in the comp.

I dont think we will finish bottom 2 simply because it looks like we have a fairly easy draw and we have the “interstate home ground advantage” that always sees us snag a couple of wins a year against good sides that we werent expected to win..
The points are valid, but there is a fair bit of Mayo.

We've drafted and traded in more midfielders 185cm and above than 180cm and below since (or before) 2019.

We are a bottom 6 side and we still need to invest in our midfield. But we conceded an average of only 0.5 less clearances than our opposition. That's below average, but not one of the worst midfields in the comp.

I'd love a top 2 pick next year, but it's not happening. The top 6 pick we probably go get might nab us the blue chip mid we need to fill out our midfield (particularly if Pedlar gets his body right).
 
I think the ideal backline has Butts, Murray and Worrell with Jones, Milera and Hamill.

Reasons are that Butts and Murray are lock down, Eorrell provides medium sized defense. Then you have Hanill and Jobes speed and Milera as creative HB. Smith lends support.

Means Smith plays wing and switching with Jones. Dawson moves up the field as he should and I would prefer we play Doedee further up into the midfield.

It's a different look but I reckon it would work.
I’d prefer Parnell over Hamill at this stage

That could change though
 
The points are valid, but there is a fair bit of Mayo.

We've drafted and traded in more midfielders 185cm and above than 180cm and below since (or before) 2019.

We are a bottom 6 side and we still need to invest in our midfield. But we conceded an average of only 0.5 less clearances than our opposition. That's below average, but not one of the worst midfields in the comp.

I'd love a top 2 pick next year, but it's not happening. The top 6 pick we probably go get might nab us the blue chip mid we need to fill out our midfield (particularly if Pedlar gets his body right).
All our young mids are lightly framed? Berry: nugget. Schoenberg: nugget. Pedlar: nugget.

Still I kinda agree, we’re more likely to finish bottom two than make finals
 

Hard to disagree with most of that.

Points out our strange obsession with picking the same type of midfielder and also that out midfield is one of the worst in the comp.

I dont think we will finish bottom 2 simply because it looks like we have a fairly easy draw and we have the “interstate home ground advantage” that always sees us snag a couple of wins a year against good sides that we werent expected to win..
We're a Tex injury away from being in the conversation for bottom two. Without him we win the spoon in 2021 and challenge hard for it in 2022.

Fortunately for us, Hawthorn and GWS have imploded, and West Coast are about to go through what we did at the end of 2019.
 
All our young mids are lightly framed? Berry: nugget. Schoenberg: nugget. Pedlar: nugget.

Still I kinda agree, we’re more likely to finish bottom two than make finals
I'd say we're more likely to play finals than finish bottom 2. But it's a dumb and dumber type chance.

I'd have us 11th to 15th.
 
We're a Tex injury away from being in the conversation for bottom two. Without him we win the spoon in 2021 and challenge hard for it in 2022.

Fortunately for us, Hawthorn and GWS have imploded, and West Coast are about to go through what we did at the end of 2019.
But I think we could cover Tex well enough to stay out of the bottom 2 for 2023. A season ending injury to Laird might be a different story.

Other teams will have their own issues too. Where do Saints finish if King's injury is worse than currently thought?
 
Where is Jones training?

Smith is more a liability then he is an asset nowadays in the backline. Let him loose on the wing.

what we need most is smart players in the backline.

I actually think in Worrell, Doedee and Hinge we have 3 Geelong like defenders who can defend but are smart players who know when to help out and can do so with desperation and strength.

I would have those 3 in the back line myself.

That leaves Butts as the key defender and I don't mind Murray, but he scares me with his thinking in the same way Hartigan did, but even more so.

I'd prefer Worrell to be able to develop the strength to be a key Backman if possible.

So for the future you could have:

Worrell, Butts, Doedee
Hinge, Milera, Max

I don't necessarily think you need a specialist small shit down defender, I think we've relied on this in the past because our defensive system has been really poor and we don't cover each other well enough.

A smart defence that works together should be able to cover individual speed.

In hinge Milera and max you have 3 guys that can deliver the ball out of defence really well.

Obviously we would have the ability to rotate others through the backline so I still see a role for guys like Hamill, Dawson, and Smith switching through depending on match ups, but I want Jones out of there.

If Murph and Ned remain in side I think it would greater value to have them also focus on the back half.
 
I think the ideal backline has Butts, Murray and Worrell with Jones, Milera and Hamill.

Reasons are that Butts and Murray are lock down, Eorrell provides medium sized defense. Then you have Hanill and Jobes speed and Milera as creative HB. Smith lends support.

Means Smith plays wing and switching with Jones. Dawson moves up the field as he should and I would prefer we play Doedee further up into the midfield.

It's a different look but I reckon it would work.
FB: Doedee, Butts, Worrell
HB: Milera, Murray, Hinge
Smith on the bench and Dawson and Jones on the wing, Milera and Hinge can be rotated on the wings for Jones if a speedy small forward starts bullying us.
Doedee playing smaller but still having the ability to come across and mark is how you fit him and Worrell in the same side.

Long term I see Worrell getting big enough to be more CHB and pushing Murray out the team, then Michalanney comes into Worrell's old spot and Hamill/Parnell/Bond replace Smith.
 
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