Training Preseason 2024
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Not being the main extractor and being moved to the wing are basically apples and oranges.
Playing Brayshaw on the wing would be nearly as stupid as playing Jackson at full back.
Not sure what the “main guy” means exactly, but Brayshaw was often the one they’d sit upon at the centre bounces. Suggests the opposition brains trusts think he goes alright there.
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You don’t play 3 inside mids at a bounce
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"Brayshaw to the wing" is tell me you don't understand footy without telling me.
I’m still a big fan of Brodie. When he’s up and about his inside work is truly elite. I know he’s a few back in the pecking order, but I hope he gets a crack.
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Is that Ethan Hughes' music??
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Surely if Fyfe is fit its
Darcy
Fyfe
AB
Serong
First up
Jackson
Brodie
Young
Johnson
Second up
JOM Aish Erasmus
If needed
If Fyfe and Brodie play well we have a top 4 midfield this year.
If not our midfield is another year off being top 4 with development in young Erasmus Johnson
Darcy
Fyfe
AB
Serong
First up
Jackson
Brodie
Young
Johnson
Second up
JOM Aish Erasmus
If needed
If Fyfe and Brodie play well we have a top 4 midfield this year.
If not our midfield is another year off being top 4 with development in young Erasmus Johnson
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Is it Friday yet?
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I like Drewzy. I wonder if he’s on here.
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It was actually the 790 other AFL players that voted but your point still stands.
Weirdly enough Fyfe as a full time mid might be his best way back? It surely keeps him out while Fyfe is fit and playing, but it might open the door as best like for like replacement if / when hes not?
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This is where Andy gets a bit stuck in no man’s land as I don’t think he’s the best defensive/second receiver, I think Young has passed him as he has the size and defensive mindset to stop the best opposition mid, but also has the skills to be more damaging when we do win the clearance and he’s receiving on the outside. I also think MJ is very close to surpassing AB in this role as well. My first choice would be:
Darcy
Fyfe
Serong
Young
Second:
Jackson
Brodie
Brayshaw
Johnson
That’s why people are trying to find secondary roles for those in the second best of each position.
Jackson is easy, forward, inside, wing, play him wherever we want when he’s not in the ruck.
Brodie is a massive conundrum as he has no secondary role, can a team play both Fyfe and Brodie when they are clearly just extractors?
Johnson again easy as he can play wing when not inside.
AB ???? Can he survive inside being 2nd best at two roles? What happens when MJ overtakes him and he’s 3rd in line for the defensive role? This is why I understand the debate. For mine, it all depends on Brodie and Fyfe, if we play both, ABs inside minutes are under threat as Serong is clearly the better as that first receiver. If we go with Fyfe or Brodie as Sub, then Serong plays more minutes as the extractor and AB spends more time as 1st receiver.
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Ok so reading this thread I probably have some different opinions of the game/simulation.
Overall I was kind of underwhelmed.
Whilst I might sound like a bit of a dinosaur here, I don't know if it was really fair to call that an intra club match - felt far more like a training session to me. Some of the small things like playing with hats and sunsleeves on, and having players running drills on the far side of the field didn't exactly help - a long of the with the heat. Subsequently I don't know how much can really be taken away from the match as the best players seemed to be playing at a different intensity more than anything else.
But really overall nothing seems to have changed. The first 3-4 inside 50s of the match were long bombs that fell on Luke Ryan's chest and a huge amount of scores seemed to be based off clearance work, which is why white absolutely dominated.
Few key players of note:
3. Serong - looked incredible. Playing at a different level to everyone else in that game. If its not just an intensity difference and it carries over into the next season I'd expect a Butters like jump in form. He's arguably out best player already for mine.
7. Fyfe - looked like 2019 Fyfe without the aerial game. So bloody good. Again not certain if just and intensity difference but it was wonderful to watch. Really hope he stays fit and gets a good crack at things - he deserves it.
8. Brayshaw - really struggled at the centre clearances for mine. He got going a lot better in the 2nd and 3rd for purple in this department - however he's just not as effective as a centre clearance player than some of the bigger more powerful boys. I'm also an advocate for a move to a wing for him but I saw no signs of that today.
9. Jackson - took a couple of nice grabs up forward. If he stays as a forward/ruck I think he'll have a 25+ goal season.
14. Sharp - ran hard and linked up a few times. Reminded me a bit of Ed Langon with a slightly cleaner kick and a touch less pace. He has first dibs on the wing for mine - however he looked incredibly like an outside player.
17. Brodie - some flashes of 2022 Brodie today. A couple of those dashes out of clearances taking a bounce. I'd say he's first inline to take Fyfe's spot should be not be available. Hard to comment on defensive run when watching both teams however.
23. Worner - looked a lot better off half back than I recall him ever being at the top level. Skills still not perfect but he seemed to be the most attacking half back in the game.
24. Amiss - barely touched it but when he did it was quality. Kicked 2-3 goals being marked by McDonald who really couldn't go with him once the ball was on the ground.
29. Simpson - showed some really nice flashes. I'd expect him to at least be the sub round 1.
No number - Voss. Was the best forward on the day, led hard, chased hard, tackled and pressured and kicked goals.
Everyone else was kind of unremarkable for mine and didn't really stand out beyond what you would have expected from last season.
Overall I was kind of underwhelmed.
Whilst I might sound like a bit of a dinosaur here, I don't know if it was really fair to call that an intra club match - felt far more like a training session to me. Some of the small things like playing with hats and sunsleeves on, and having players running drills on the far side of the field didn't exactly help - a long of the with the heat. Subsequently I don't know how much can really be taken away from the match as the best players seemed to be playing at a different intensity more than anything else.
But really overall nothing seems to have changed. The first 3-4 inside 50s of the match were long bombs that fell on Luke Ryan's chest and a huge amount of scores seemed to be based off clearance work, which is why white absolutely dominated.
Few key players of note:
3. Serong - looked incredible. Playing at a different level to everyone else in that game. If its not just an intensity difference and it carries over into the next season I'd expect a Butters like jump in form. He's arguably out best player already for mine.
7. Fyfe - looked like 2019 Fyfe without the aerial game. So bloody good. Again not certain if just and intensity difference but it was wonderful to watch. Really hope he stays fit and gets a good crack at things - he deserves it.
8. Brayshaw - really struggled at the centre clearances for mine. He got going a lot better in the 2nd and 3rd for purple in this department - however he's just not as effective as a centre clearance player than some of the bigger more powerful boys. I'm also an advocate for a move to a wing for him but I saw no signs of that today.
9. Jackson - took a couple of nice grabs up forward. If he stays as a forward/ruck I think he'll have a 25+ goal season.
14. Sharp - ran hard and linked up a few times. Reminded me a bit of Ed Langon with a slightly cleaner kick and a touch less pace. He has first dibs on the wing for mine - however he looked incredibly like an outside player.
17. Brodie - some flashes of 2022 Brodie today. A couple of those dashes out of clearances taking a bounce. I'd say he's first inline to take Fyfe's spot should be not be available. Hard to comment on defensive run when watching both teams however.
23. Worner - looked a lot better off half back than I recall him ever being at the top level. Skills still not perfect but he seemed to be the most attacking half back in the game.
24. Amiss - barely touched it but when he did it was quality. Kicked 2-3 goals being marked by McDonald who really couldn't go with him once the ball was on the ground.
29. Simpson - showed some really nice flashes. I'd expect him to at least be the sub round 1.
No number - Voss. Was the best forward on the day, led hard, chased hard, tackled and pressured and kicked goals.
Everyone else was kind of unremarkable for mine and didn't really stand out beyond what you would have expected from last season.
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AB is one of the best two way midfielders in the league
Serong AB are locks in my midfield
Yep, speculation that AB might not have a spot as the young guys come through is crazy. its awesome that we have some great midfielders coming through, but some people need to watch a couple of games to see just how good Brayshaw is.
wherever he starts on field, he’ll be playing midfield during the game.
Aish taking the kick-outs interests me immensley...
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What I like about the mix is that we have the personnel to stop a run-on. No one's getting clean ball our against Darcy/Jackson, Fyfe/Brodie/Johnson, with two of Serong, Young and Brayshaw at 1st & 2nd receiver. This goes double, given Darcy can now stiff-arm his opponent (I think Taylor's assessment is bang on here).
On the flip side, when we're in the ascendency, we again have a great mix of extraction and outside run/delivery across several combinations.
If we can stem bleeding quickly but strike when opportunities present, I think we're going to be a tough proposition. The biggest weakness will be turnovers and broken play, but even then, we have the height and marking power to get out of trouble at least some of the time.
All in all, on the team sheet, I feel we've got one of the better units in the league, but, to paraphrase Brian Clough, unfortunately, the game's played on grass, not paper. Roll on round #1
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Agreed. The guy is too good for WAFL.
Well he's a Freo fan so he's got at least 1 thing right! But yeah, he goes alright.
Pretty sure I've heard both he and True Footy mention big footy before.
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If he sees this post then my message is well done on the video. It was very good work.
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It looked like he was being used to move the ball out of defense quite a bit, and unless the opposition want to man him up with their tallest key defender he will get a medium, and he made All Australian Luke Ryan look amateur in some of those passages of play.
We need him taking those marks between the arcs and the whole game changes for us.
Easier to score, much easier to defend against.
