Toast Presidency and The Board

[jathanas]

Thank you 76woodenspooners

One of BigFooty’s all-time-favourite posters, Reykjavik , was all across the board level stuff. He once posted a list of the responsibilities of a Not-For-Profit board like that of Collingwood …

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NFP board responsibilities
Specific responsibilities of a not-for-profit (NFP) board include:

• Driving the strategic direction of the organisation
• Working with the CEO to enable the organisation to obtain the resources, funds and personnel necessary to implement the organisation's strategic objectives
• Implementing, maintaining and (as necessary) refining a system of good governance that is appropriate for the organisation
• Reviewing reports and monitoring the performance of the organisation
• Regularly reviewing the board's structure and composition, so that these are appropriate for the organisation
• Appointing – and managing the performance of – a suitable CEO
• Succession planning for the CEO

While the above points are also applicable to for-profit boards, NFP boards also face a unique range of issues, such as:

• Difficulties in defining and measuring organisational effectiveness
• Transgression of role boundaries
• The negative impact of the structural compositions of some NFP boards, including those arising from representative models
• Funding dependencies and constraints

In practice, the role of the board is to supervise an organisation's business in two broad areas:

1. Overall business performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements strategies and supporting policies to enable it to fulfill the objectives set out in the organisation's constitution. The board delegates the day to day management of the organisation but remains accountable to the shareholders for the organisation's performance. The board monitors and supports management in an on-going way.
2. Overall compliance performance - ensuring the organisation develops and implements systems to enable it to comply with its legal and policy obligations (complying with statutes such as the Corporations Act 2001, adhering to accounting standards) and ensure the organisation's assets are protected through appropriate risk management.

http://www.companydirectors.com.au/...ctor/NFP-governance/The-role-of-the-NFP-board

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[Markfs]

Jeff is a bit blunt but his vision is clear - he wants to remove soft tax, have 100000 members, and make our large support count for something to give the players the best platform to succeed.

how much can the platform be improved if the salary cap is fixed and he accesses the current facilities to be the best of the best?....

richmond went to 100K members because of winning premierships, not phone a friend...

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Yeah Browne might have lost some fans with his comments, but may have gained much more than he lost.
After years of increasingly worse on-field results, the do-better report, and the trade fiasco, many wanted change at the top.

Did his video ask people for money? Or did he just state a goal? I'll have to re-watch it. I can see how it sounds like the same thing. My first thought was he sounded like a businessman with a mission statement, but without a timeline. Looking forward to see what he can do over the coming years.

Eddie was always going to be huge shoes to fill. Not just his charisma and his talent, but his passion for the club. Doubt any man could have stepped in at his level.

Re-watching the clip, Browne said the following:

• He's appealing to members to speak to family, friends and other colleagues who aren't members of the club to sign up and join the club.
• The higher membership numbers will be of great benefit psychologically for the players and coaches, knowing they have the support of many people.
• The revenue we derive from membership can be re-invested back into the club to make it stronger and enhance our programs.
• Lastly, he wants the club to get to 100K, and he wants us to "punch through that" number and not just be content with it.

The tone of his voice may have sounded a little monotonous, but I see nothing wrong with the message itself. The club risks falling behind the membership ladder if we don't push on and market ourselves well to get more people signing up. Obviously winning will help this process.

West Coast and Richmond have jumped ahead of us by 20,000, and Essendon and Carlton only had 1,000 less members last year.

If we can sell 2022 as a start of a new and promising era, I think we can make good progress on the membership front.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Jeff is a bit blunt but his vision is clear - he wants to remove soft tax, have 100000 members, and make our large support count for something to give the players the best platform to succeed.

The AFL will never remove the soft cap tax and no amount of members will change that.

 

[Raveneyes]

Re-watching the clip, Browne said the following:

• He's appealing to members to speak to family, friends and other colleagues who aren't members of the club to sign up and join the club.
• The higher membership numbers will be of great benefit psychologically for the players and coaches, knowing they have the support of many people.
• The revenue we derive from membership can be re-invested back into the club to make it stronger and enhance our programs.
• Lastly, he wants the club to get to 100K, and he wants us to "punch through that" number and not just be content with it.

The tone of his voice may have sounded a little monotonous, but I see nothing wrong with the message itself. The club risks falling behind the membership ladder if we don't push on and market ourselves well to get more people signing up. Obviously winning will help this process.

West Coast and Richmond have jumped ahead of us by 20,000, and Essendon and Carlton only had 1,000 less members last year.

If we can sell 2022 as a start of a new and promising era, I think we can make good progress on the membership front.

Great summary, and I agree with your opinion. We're so used to the passion of Eddie, so it's easy to confuse a monotonous dialogue with dispassion.
I think it's fine to ask members to join, and to ask them to speak with others. I would think it strange if he didn't.

 

[Masked Magician]

Saints' debt levels queried by rivals, Gill backs AFL funding model

Club presidents have questioned Gill McLachlan and Richard Goyder over St Kilda's financial assistance

www.afl.com.au

Saints' debt levels queried by rivals, Gill backs AFL funding model​

Club presidents have questioned Gill McLachlan and Richard Goyder over St Kilda's financial assistance
By Josh Gabelich and Damian Barrett - 3 hrs ago

THE POOR financial state of St Kilda Football Club despite generous AFL funding continues to draw questioning by some clubs across the competition.

The presidents met with AFL CEO Gill McLachlan and Commission Chairman Richard Goyder at Marvel Stadium on the eve of the 2022 season.

St Kilda has received more handouts than any other club in Victoria across the past decade, during a time where the club made the decision to build a training and administration base in Seaford before cutting its losses to return to its spiritual home in Moorabbin in 2018.

The Saints have long had a debt north of $10 million which was reduced last year to just under that figure, but still only below Brisbane.


While the discussions around AFL distributions remained civil during Wednesday's meeting, the Saints' financial plight was put under the microscope.

It is believed the newest addition to club presidency ranks, Collingwood's Jeff Browne, diplomatically raised several issues pertaining to AFL distributions.

The Magpies received $100 million less than expansion clubs GWS and Gold Coast in AFL distributions between 2012-21, which most clubs can accept due to the reality the expansion franchises require support from headquarters for a long time to come given the project involves building something from scratch in non-traditional heartland.

But the point of conjecture revolves around St Kilda's financial assistance.

Collingwood, West Coast, Hawthorn and Geelong are all understood to have received $50 million less than the Saints during the past decade.

St Kilda has played in only one finals series in that time and only won a single final – the 2020 elimination final over the Western Bulldogs – during a period where Scott Watters and Alan Richardson were moved on as senior coaches.


McLachlan conceded St Kilda has suffered from failing to secure lucrative deals outside of Melbourne like smaller Victorian rivals in North Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs.

"Have they got more than most Victorian clubs? Yeah, they have. I think they got themselves in bad shape which explains part of it, but they're improving. Clubs go through ebbs and flows," McLachlan said on Wednesday afternoon.


"The last decade for St Kilda, broadly, has been a tough period. They didn't have the non-Victorian funding of Tasmania like North Melbourne did. They didn't have Ballarat and Queensland like the Bulldogs. I think we've been on notice for some time. I think the club is operating in a very different capacity now than a few years ago financially."

McLachlan said the AFL will look at tinkering the subsidisation model but doesn't expect to please everyone with the distribution.

"We've committed to the clubs to refine our club funding model. Our clubs are broadly happy. The model always has its tensions," he said.

"There is a large difference between a 150-year-old established Melbourne club and a new start-up in an emerging market like Gold Coast or western Sydney. Accountability for that money has always been a discussion."

The 2022 AFL season starts next Wednesday night with the AFL expecting more than 80,000 people for the Grand Final rematch at the MCG.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Magpie boss slams AFL over ‘unfair’ funding

Collingwood’s president suggests the AFL had acted contrary to its contractual obligations, having distorted what was “legally permissible” by redistributing money to some clubs on a grand scale.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Mollythedolly]

Magpie boss slams AFL over ‘unfair’ funding

Collingwood’s president suggests the AFL had acted contrary to its contractual obligations, having distorted what was “legally permissible” by redistributing money to some clubs on a grand scale.

www.theage.com.au

He’s missed the memo if he’s suggesting we’re “financially responsible”. Doing okay at the moment is a long way from “financially responsible”.

Either way though, I’m not sure what he’s expecting to change. Wealthy clubs have nearly always subsidized poor clubs and more recently establishment clubs. Fitzroy the only recent exception I can recall in my lifetime.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

StKilda burned money hand over fist when they moved to Seaford over a petty planning dispute with Kingston CC… only to come back begging years later.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

He’s missed the memo if he’s suggesting we’re “financially responsible”. Doing okay at the moment is a long way from “financially responsible”.

Either way though, I’m not sure what he’s expecting to change. Wealthy clubs have nearly always subsidized poor clubs and more recently establishment clubs. Fitzroy the only recent exception I can recall in my lifetime.

Pretty rich of him to suggest we're financially responsible given all of his comments in the media last year attacking the Board were about how the club is financially irresponsible.

 

[Mkcaptain]

Pretty rich of him to suggest we're financially responsible given all of his comments in the media last year attacking the Board were about how the club is financially irresponsible.

He changed his tune on all that the minute he got the presidency.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Either way though, I’m not sure what he’s expecting to change. Wealthy clubs have nearly always subsidized poor clubs and more recently establishment clubs. Fitzroy the only recent exception I can recall in my lifetime.

So if we’ve been reamed for a long time, there’s nothing to be gained by advocating for fairness at all?

 

[Mollythedolly]

So if we’ve been reamed for a long time, there’s nothing to be gained by advocating for fairness at all?

Yeah, that’s what I said…..

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

The President releases a message ahead of the new season.

Browne message ahead of Round 1

Hear from the president of Collingwood ahead of our AFL round 1 clash with the Saints on Friday night.

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

The President releases a message ahead of the new season.

Browne message ahead of Round 1

Hear from the president of Collingwood ahead of our AFL round 1 clash with the Saints on Friday night.

www.collingwoodfc.com.au

Nice not to get told as a member to buy a membership for once.

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[FIGJAM]

Pretty rich of him to suggest we're financially responsible given all of his comments in the media last year attacking the Board were about how the club is financially irresponsible.

He did?? I recall him having a go at the salary cap mismanagement, but not at the general financials.

Good to see him taking the AFL to task over the reasoning behind the equalisation policy. Both the previous 'Big P" and "Small P" Presidents bowed to the AFL's every whim.

 

[76woodenspooners]

He did?? I recall him having a go at the salary cap mismanagement, but not at the general financials.

Good to see him taking the AFL to task over the reasoning behind the equalisation policy. Both the previous 'Big P" and "Small P" Presidents bowed to the AFL's every whim.

Jeff Browne can jump up and bang the table all he likes, and maybe some Collingwood supporters will appreciate seeing him do that.

But will it make any difference? Do you think the AFL will suddenly say “Oh Jeff Browne, you’re right. We’ll restore Collingwood’s rightful AFL distributions and let St Kilda go defunct” ?

Let’s see.

Maybe you’re right, maybe the AFL will listen to Jeff Browne and (effectively) let St Kilda go defunct?

Or maybe Jeff Browne’s rantings will do nothing more than galvanise a portion of the Collingwood supporter base behind him?

 

[FIGJAM]

Jeff Browne can jump up and bang the table all he likes, and maybe some Collingwood supporters will appreciate seeing him do that.

But will it make any difference? Do you think the AFL will suddenly say “Oh Jeff Browne, you’re right. We’ll restore Collingwood’s rightful AFL distributions and let St Kilda go defunct” ?

Let’s see.

Maybe you’re right, maybe the AFL will listen to Jeff Browne and (effectively) let St Kilda go defunct?
Go to the
Or maybe Jeff Browne’s rantings will do nothing more than galvanise a portion of the Collingwood supporter base behind him?

I don't see the part where he's "banging on tables", ranting or willing another club to go to the wall, but is quietly setting about reminding the AFL why the equalisation measures exist and arguing in our interests. Nice to have a President who does that for a change!

 

[76woodenspooners]

I don't see the part where he's "banging on tables", ranting or willing another club to go to the wall, but is quietly setting about reminding the AFL why the equalisation measures exist and arguing in our interests. Nice to have a President who does that for a change!

If his actions actually achieve anything that is in Collingwood’s interest, then I agree.

Otherwise all he‘s doing is putting on a show for his constituents.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

I don't see the part where he's "banging on tables", ranting or willing another club to go to the wall, but is quietly setting about reminding the AFL why the equalisation measures exist and arguing in our interests. Nice to have a President who does that for a change!

You didn't answer 76's question, you cherry-picked a specific phrase.

Do you think the AFL will suddenly listen to Browne and let St Kilda go defunct or is it simply designed to galvanise a vocal part of the Collingwood base?

Also, my recollection is the President we had for over two decades pretty consistently crapped on about equalisation and its effect on Collingwood, so not really sure what this "for a change" thing you mention is about.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Also, my recollection is the President we had for over two decades pretty consistently crapped on about equalisation and its effect on Collingwood, so not really sure what this "for a change" thing you mention is about.

Yeah, true …

… Ed banged on for years about COLA. Eventually got an outcome too.

 

[Markfs]

If his actions actually achieve anything that is in Collingwood’s interest, then I agree.

Otherwise all he‘s doing is putting on a show for his constituents.

I think there's an argument that if you don't voice a grievance, then the people in charge are going to say that it didnt mean much to you.

I think the argument goes beyond the Pies. There must be some limits on a club's spending. It cant be bailed out just to keep 18 teams in the competition. As for the arguments against equalisation, it would seem to me to be just another example of the AFL balancing out the clubs, so that clubs who are financially successful have less premiership success and therefore end up being less financially successful. Presumably st. kilda and WB and Melb will win a ton of premierships and attract fans and then pay their own way...

 

[FIGJAM]

You didn't answer 76's question, you cherry-picked a specific phrase.

Do you think the AFL will suddenly listen to Browne and let St Kilda go defunct or is it simply designed to galvanise a vocal part of the Collingwood base?

You're both starting off with the premise that if we stop getting molested at the redistribution table that St Kilda will go bust, which is moronic.

As for Browne arguing this case for "likes" within the supporter base, sheesh, I know you two ****ing hate Browne, but that is specious reasoning at best!

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

You're both starting off with the premise that if we stop getting molested at the redistribution table that St Kilda will go bust, which is moronic.

As for Browne arguing this case for "likes" within the supporter base, sheesh, I know you two ******* hate Browne, but that is specious reasoning at best!

Every comment he made during the campaign was designed to rile up basic anger from Collingwood members to help his cause, hard to see why he'd change now.

 

[FIGJAM]

Every comment he made during the campaign was designed to rile up basic anger from Collingwood members to help his cause, hard to see why he'd change now.

Absolute ****ing bullshit!

 

[76woodenspooners]

As for Browne arguing this case for "likes" within the supporter base, sheesh, I know you two ******* hate Browne, but that is specious reasoning at best!

I don’t hate Jeff Browne. He’s now President of Collingwood, I want to see him do well.

And sure, I totally panned him last year for what I saw was his cynical attempt at taking control of the club …

… but once he took on the role, I was far far more interested to see him do well and make people like me eat humble pie.

Do you really think that Jeff Browne has become the Mr Charisma, the Mr Vision, the Mr Inspiration, the President that is all those things that you were complaining that the last bloke wasn’t???

I’m looking for it, I really want to see it, but I’ve seen nothing. And whilst it may seem early days - Browne has already been in the chair for longer than the last bloke had been when people like you wanted him turfed.

I hope things change. Feed me that delicious delicious humble pie. I’m hungry for it.