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Geoffa32 said:
Or were you just saying words again that have no meaning.....
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If you are ignorant, they would have no meaning, do they have no meaning to you Geoff?
 

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gopower said:
It's fine, it's just not relevant.

Who knows where Port would've finished if we'd had home games against the Bulldogs and GWS to kick off our season with plenty of confidence, if Boak, Hartlett, Schulz and Gray had been injury free all year like Dangerfield, Thompson, Jacobs, Walker, Sloane and Reilly were (which would've forced momentum killing spuds like Thomas, Logan and Daniel Stewart out of the side), and if a couple of the opposition's best players had a voodoo curse put on them just about every week.
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It was an easy question which would of taken all of 15 words or less to answer, I dont understand why you are writing a book about it without answering.

At a guess, how many wins do you think you could of managed with our draw ?

I will start it for you: I think the PAFC might of ended up with X wins.

All you need to do is replace X
 
gopower said:
Alright, at a guess:
GC away: Win
WB home: Win
Hawthorn away: Loss
Showdown: Loss
GWS home: Win
Sydney away: Loss
Geelong home: Loss
Carlton away: Loss
Collingwood home: Loss
Fremantle away: Loss
St. Kilda home: Win
North away: Loss
Richmond home: Win (we drew with them last time we played them and that was at the MCG with Brad Ebert's non-goal)
Showdown: Loss
GWS away: Win (we seem to shit ourselves against expansion teams first up, I doubt we'll lose to GWS next time we play them)
West Coast home: Loss
Geelong away: Loss
Essendon home: Win (we lost the corresponding fixture in the real world, but I reckon we would've beaten them if we'd been full strength or thereabouts)
Fremantle home: Loss
Brisbane away: Loss
Melbourne away: Win
GC home: Win

So I'd guess 9 wins. Change it to 8 if we're taking injuries out of the equation. Some of these results are different to the results we had against these teams (WB, Carlton, Essendon, GWS) but that's the effect that I think the early season confidence and a small injury list would've had.

Now why don't you do one on how you think you would've gone with Collingwood's draw?
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Sorry you can not have GWS away or Essendon at home as a win, you lost those games. No rewriting history here.


Melbourne at the G, in Brad Green's farewell game? Hmm doubt it.
 
gopower said:
This is an entirely hypothetical exercise, I could have us winning all 22 games if I wanted to. Those are the results that I think we would've gotten with your draw and injury list. They wouldn't necessarily be the same as the results we would've gotten with our draw and injury list.
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Your coaches negate any gains from injury list.
 
My crack at the Collingwood draw. Home game played at Footy Park, as is away Showdown.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/125543/default.aspx

Hawthorn MCG...Loss
Richmond Footy Park ...Win
Carlton MCG win we beat them in Melb this year
Port at Footy Park Win
Essendon Footy Park Win
Bulldogs at Docklands Win if we beat Carlton at Docklands we should beat the Dogs there.
Brisbane Gabba Loss, we lost this game
Geelong Footy Park Win we won this game
Collingwood at MCG Loss...........This is our game against them this year we lost at home.
Gold Coast Footy Park Win.
Melbourne at MCG Win, we beat them this year at the G
WCE Footy Park. Win We beat them at home this year.
Freo Footy Park Win We beat them at home this year.
Carlton Footy Park Win, we beat them away this year.
Geelong Kardinia Park Loss
Hawthorn Footy Park........We beat them at home in 2011, 50/50 game I will put it down as a loss.
Giants at Skoda Win
St Kilda at Footy Park Win
Swans ANZ Stadium...we beat them at SCG this year and historically have a good record over them. Win
North Melbourne Docklands Loss
WCE Subiaco Loss
Essendon MCG/Docklands Win. Essendon were shot at this stage and we did beat them this season in our only game.



15 wins with the Hawks game a genuine 50/50 game. Nice lead in to Finals with games against Finals sides in the last four matches.




I would not mind Collingwood's draw next year.
 
gopower said:
15 wins minus the percentage boosts you got from playing GC/GWS twice would've probably had you out of the top 4. A win in the Sydney game is a bit of a stretch since they beat you at AAMI, but my Richmond game was a bit of a stretch too so I'll grant you that.
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We beat the Swans at the SCG this season.
 
Geoffa32 said:
All Port need is luck with injuires and a soft draw (lets give em ours from this year next year) and with their new coach they too will finish top four next year.
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Bullshit- they wont make the eight no matter what coach and draw they get.

Geoffa32 said:
Has nothing to do with anything else.
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Try decent players and crowd support:rolleyes:
 

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topjars said:
Bullshit- they wont make the eight no matter what coach and draw they get.


Try decent players and crowd support:rolleyes:
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Lol, sarcasm detection fail.

Damn school holidays.
 
gopower said:
15 wins minus the percentage boosts you got from playing GC/GWS twice would've probably had you out of the top 4. A win in the Sydney game is a bit of a stretch since they beat you at AAMI, but my Richmond game was a bit of a stretch too so I'll grant you that.
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You also wouldnt have beaten St Kilda at home later in the season, they were a far better outfit once Watters had gotten his feet wet than they were in round 1.

All this talk over our draw is merely a coping mechanism for disheartened Poort supporters North actually had an easier draw than us and only just made the 8. So what will the excuse be next year to help yourself cope with our ladder position ?
 
gopower said:
Alright, at a guess:
GC away: Win
WB home: Win
Hawthorn away: Loss
Showdown: Loss
GWS home: Win
Sydney away: Loss
Geelong home: Loss
Carlton away: Loss
Collingwood home: Loss
Fremantle away: Loss
St. Kilda home: Win
North away: Loss
Richmond home: Win (we drew with them last time we played them and that was at the MCG with Brad Ebert's non-goal)
Showdown: Loss
GWS away: Win (we seem to shit ourselves against expansion teams first up, I doubt we'll lose to GWS next time we play them)
West Coast home: Loss
Geelong away: Loss
Essendon home: Win (we lost the corresponding fixture in the real world, but I reckon we would've beaten them if we'd been full strength or thereabouts)
Fremantle home: Loss
Brisbane away: Loss
Melbourne away: Win
GC home: Win

So I'd guess 9 wins. Change it to 8 if we're taking injuries out of the equation. Some of these results are different to the results we had against these teams (WB, Carlton, Essendon, GWS) but that's the effect that I think the early season confidence and a small injury list would've had.

Now why don't you do one on how you think you would've gone with Collingwood's draw?
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lol you lost to GWS away, Richmond at home and Essendon at home. You can't just magically say you'll beat them! Also history suggests you would've lost to the Suns at home and probably struggle to beat Melbourne away. Nice try tho...:thumbsu:
 
relapse said:
You also wouldnt have beaten St Kilda at home later in the season, they were a far better outfit once Watters had gotten his feet wet than they were in round 1.

All this talk over our draw is merely a coping mechanism for disheartened Poort supporters North actually had an easier draw than us and only just made the 8. So what will the excuse be next year to help yourself cope with our ladder position ?
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Blaming the umpires seems to work for some :thumbsu:
 
relapse said:
You also wouldnt have beaten St Kilda at home later in the season, they were a far better outfit once Watters had gotten his feet wet than they were in round 1.

All this talk over our draw is merely a coping mechanism for disheartened Poort supporters North actually had an easier draw than us and only just made the 8. So what will the excuse be next year to help yourself cope with our ladder position ?
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There's a number of teams who had similar soft draws..
St Kilda for one: Gold Coast, Melbourne, Bulldogs, Carlton and Sydney twice..
And couldn't even make the 8..
 
gopower said:
Alright, at a guess:
GC away: Win
WB home: Win
Hawthorn away: Loss
Showdown: Loss
GWS home: Win
Sydney away: Loss
Geelong home: Loss
Carlton away: Loss
Collingwood home: Loss
Fremantle away: Loss
St. Kilda home: Win
North away: Loss
Richmond home: Win (we drew with them last time we played them and that was at the MCG with Brad Ebert's non-goal)
Showdown: Loss
GWS away: Win (we seem to shit ourselves against expansion teams first up, I doubt we'll lose to GWS next time we play them)
West Coast home: Loss
Geelong away: Loss
Essendon home: Win (we lost the corresponding fixture in the real world, but I reckon we would've beaten them if we'd been full strength or thereabouts)
Fremantle home: Loss
Brisbane away: Loss
Melbourne away: Win
GC home: Win

So I'd guess 9 wins. Change it to 8 if we're taking injuries out of the equation. Some of these results are different to the results we had against these teams (WB, Carlton, Essendon, GWS) but that's the effect that I think the early season confidence and a small injury list would've had.

Now why don't you do one on how you think you would've gone with Collingwood's draw?
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I had you pegged for 6 to 8 wins so we are not that far apart, the way you you guys have carried on you should of been a monty for the finals with our draw seeing as it was so "easy" :oops:

I will have a go..Would rather do it with the AFC getting the same amount of home games at the Pies though :D

I have us at 14 to 16 wins (15 wins below) but there are at least 3 x 50/50 games.
This draw would of better prepared us for finals.
I guess, apart from the double up against you guys we can expect a draw similiar to this next year. I for one am looking forward to it.

Hawthorn MCG - Loss
Richmond Footy Park - Win
Carlton MCG - Loss
Port at Footy Park - Win
Essendon Footy Park - Win
Bulldogs at Docklands - Win
Brisbane Gabba - Win
Geelong Footy Park - Win
Collingwood at MCG - Loss
Gold Coast Footy Park - Win
Melbourne at MCG - Win
WCE Footy Park - Win
Freo Footy Park - Win
Carlton Footy Park - Win
Geelong Kardinia Park - Loss
Hawthorn Footy Park - Loss
Giants at Skoda - Win
St Kilda at Footy Park - Win
Swans ANZ Stadium - Win
North Melbourne Docklands - Loss
WCE Subiaco - Loss
Essendon MCG/Docklands - Win
 
gopower said:
Unless you look at the Crows and you'll see an even better one.
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Let it out..
I know you have done so before on many an occasion, but rid yourself of these demons fully..
 

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