Pt2: Adrian Dodoro: Football’s Biggest Fraud IMO

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All supporter bases have this tendency to overhype injury prone young players who have not shown much at AFL level.

The longer they are injured, the bigger the hype.

You're always just one preseason away from tearing up the league until all of a sudden they're like Ben McKay in their 7th year with 70 games under their belt and not a whole lot of upside.

The only measure of talent is proven performance at AFL level over a stretch of time. Until they do that, it's all just hype.

The way Essendon fans talk about Jones, Reid and Cox is insane. Jones showed a little bit years ago, but a long way to go until he'd be considered a bankable 10 year player.

When Essendon youth finally prove they can stand up to the rigors of football, I'll become a believer. Until then it's just hope and hype.

I just think there is a still reasonable chance a couple of them work out as long term good AFL players and writing off injured players as busts seems nonsensical
 
All supporter bases have this tendency to overhype injury prone young players who have not shown much at AFL level.

The longer they are injured, the bigger the hype.

You're always just one preseason away from tearing up the league until all of a sudden they're like Ben McKay in their 7th year with 70 games under their belt and not a whole lot of upside.

The only measure of talent is proven performance at AFL level over a stretch of time. Until they do that, it's all just hype.

The way Essendon fans talk about Jones, Reid and Cox is insane. Jones showed a little bit years ago, but a long way to go until he'd be considered a bankable 10 year player.

When Essendon youth finally prove they can stand up to the rigors of football, I'll become a believer. Until then it's just hope and hype.
Not when it comes to Reid and Jones in particular. Go back and review what they were doing in 2021 if you need a reminder. Watch Reid in the limited VFL games this year. The talent doesn’t just go down the toilet with their poop. The fitness, conditioning and confidence falls away though.

These two are the difference between this team winning finals and not. Draper being the other important one they sort out.

Btw, on Ben Mc Kay, let’s see how he goes in a defence that doesn’t see 60+ opposition I50’s without any pressure upfield slowing down entries or reducing entry quality. That will be McKay fair and realistic examination. That is, put him in a good system and he will be a different player. That is the ‘canvass’ for 18-24 months time to look at.
 
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Funny that this is well publicised as Adrian's last trade period as head honcho at Essendon and Andrew Mackie and Jason Cripps are already putting there hands up as the air to the throne of just being a dick head in trade week.

Do we make a thread now for them and pot them for the next 20 years?
 
For 1 season, agree. He is the Phillips replacement exactly, a terrific mentor for Draper / Bryan and that is it. It’s insurance (1), an extra coach (2) and a strong cultural / standards driver (3), alec.
Because he's such a strong culture/standards driver. Just look at North!

I love Goldy but there's a reason he's never been in the leadership group despite being our best player for years and more recently our most senior, he's not someone you put in place to raise the bar. He's never been good at working with other ruckmen, they've only started playing a second in the past few years because he doesn't have the endurance necessary to solo ruck all day anymore. If you're bringing him in, it has to be just for what he's bringing as a player in his on-field performance.
 
Funny that this is well publicised as Adrian's last trade period as head honcho at Essendon and Andrew Mackie and Jason Cripps are already putting there hands up as the air to the throne of just being a dick head in trade week.

Do we make a thread now for them and pot them for the next 20 years?
Dodoro is not unique because he's difficult to deal with. He's unique because he intentionally sets about creating an image of himself as being difficult to deal with.

It's his lack of success mingled with his lack of humility that makes him the figure he is. No other list manager will ever hope to compete with him in those spheres.

Even look at the players he's brought in: Goddard, Stringer and now Gresham and Duursma. Full of flare, carry-on and "colourful" showmanship. Commitment to training, professionalism and ability to work in a team... questionable.
 
James Stewart out, Ben MCKay in (upgrade)
Andre Phillips out, Todd Goldstein in (upgrade)
Tippa out, Jade Gresham in (upgrade)
can nominate whoever you like, Xavier Duursma in (ace of the pack if he sorts his s**t out)
Duursma is just not very good.
 
Funny that this is well publicised as Adrian's last trade period as head honcho at Essendon and Andrew Mackie and Jason Cripps are already putting there hands up as the air to the throne of just being a dick head in trade week.

Do we make a thread now for them and pot them for the next 20 years?
Depends if they repeatedly fail for 20 years and take no accountability, while also big noting themselves.
 

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Why is Dodoro taking a top-up strategy to a list that didn't make finals?
It’s not topping up. It’s upgrading on the players they have playing those roles.

Mc Kay > BZT
Gresham > Snelling
Duursma > Durham
Goldstein replaces Phillips

The first two are obvious improvements with potential strong upside. Mc Kay should be more effective in a better full ground system as well as Essendon finally getting genuine defender, Gresham immediately is much better than Snelling.

Duursma could be per last two years just ok or potentially more back to previous seasons form now back hone being able play in his preferred position.
 
Why is Dodoro taking a top-up strategy to a list that didn't make finals?
Improving the list without using any draft capital whilst having an abundance of cap space is topping up now? It was also reported that we had enough to chase the likes of Oliver after these trades. That's with the overall cap increasing in the next few years, Whilst none of Essendon's player contracts increase with it.

Why wouldn't you improve your best 22 for "free" ?

Goldy > Phillips/Injured Draper
McKay > We literally don't have a FB
Gresham > Snelling, Guelfie, Menzie etc.
Duursma > Improvement on 1 of only 2 wingers that we have so we need depth as well.

Why were Hawthorn offering McKay even more money than us when they finished bottom 3? Why have u recruited just as many players as we have?
Everyone in this thread would bash Dodoro no matter what he did let’s be honest.
 
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It’s the whole bullshit behind how he supposedly strong arms everyone and “wins”

You consider Graham Wright-has basically built the lists that have now won 5 flags.

How often would you hear how difficult he was to deal with, just gets the job done without any fuss

Yep. Sydney are the same way and I am grateful for it. Just wants to get the job done and get a fair deal. Beatson, for his faults, does not seem to be interested in trying to "win" trade week like Dodoro is.
 
Cal Twomey reporting Adrian has paid Ben McKay $850K x 6 years. That's even higher than anything previously mentioned.

Maybe Adrian thought he was signing a deal for Ben King and not Ben McKay.
 

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