QAFA (A) 2016 Season

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Blocker Roach said:
Hopefully not speaking out of school but I think the whole footy will convert back to Div 1(being QAFL) Div 2 (Best sides in QAFA North & South) Div 3 (will more than likely be Pirates, Suns, Kedron, Coomera, Cooly, Alex Hills, Moreton and maybe Aspley? DIv 4 (will be QAFA A teams left plus any clubs pushing up with 2 teams) Div 5 Friday night footy.

Before everyone jumps down my throat it is my opinion and maybe not all actual facts. Some clubs may see their position a little different.
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Hey smy, when the reshuffle happens at the end of the year, how do you think it will pan out ? I've noticed that the most common opinion is that the best of qfa nth & Sth will form one division whilst the bottom qfa nth & Sth sides and most qafa a sides would form the other division. Imo the first option would work and work well but the second one wouldn't. I think you'd find that the bottom qfa sides would be miles better than any qafa side as they currently stand ( and yes, that includes the surfers Suns from Logan ). What are your thoughts ?
 
Twinkle_Toes said:
Hey smy, when the reshuffle happens at the end of the year, how do you think it will pan out ? I've noticed that the most common opinion is that the best of qfa nth & Sth will form one division whilst the bottom qfa nth & Sth sides and most qafa a sides would form the other division. Imo the first option would work and work well but the second one wouldn't. I think you'd find that the bottom qfa sides would be miles better than any qafa side as they currently stand ( and yes, that includes the surfers Suns from Logan ). What are your thoughts ?
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You may be right Twinkles but it will be a challenge the Pirates will welcome. With the growth in our area it would be stupid for us to sit on our hands as a club to try and stay where we are at present.

If it means building a club at s higher level and not playing finals so be it. The kids in our area will keep moving to the higher level clubs if we don't .

That is our clubs position anyway.
 
Twinkle_Toes said:
Hey smy, when the reshuffle happens at the end of the year, how do you think it will pan out ? I've noticed that the most common opinion is that the best of qfa nth & Sth will form one division whilst the bottom qfa nth & Sth sides and most qafa a sides would form the other division. Imo the first option would work and work well but the second one wouldn't. I think you'd find that the bottom qfa sides would be miles better than any qafa side as they currently stand ( and yes, that includes the surfers Suns from Logan ). What are your thoughts ?
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Bond Uni are now second on the table in QFA South, Alex Hills, Coolly and Coomera are miles of the pace this year, have not doubts the top 3 in division below would comfortably deal with them.
 
Twinkle_Toes said:
Hey smy, when the reshuffle happens at the end of the year, how do you think it will pan out ? I've noticed that the most common opinion is that the best of qfa nth & Sth will form one division whilst the bottom qfa nth & Sth sides and most qafa a sides would form the other division. Imo the first option would work and work well but the second one wouldn't. I think you'd find that the bottom qfa sides would be miles better than any qafa side as they currently stand ( and yes, that includes the surfers Suns from Logan ). What are your thoughts ?
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QAFA A has dramatically improved in past two years mainly due to large numbers of players dropping down from the top level into QAFA A. I think Bond have proved the gap between divisions is not as great as it once was with their efforts this year, they only added a couple of players to their list this year. Pirates, Kedron, Suns all have a good spread of top end talent now and are in a strong position to follow Bonds path.
 
Twinkle_Toes said:
Hey smy, when the reshuffle happens at the end of the year, how do you think it will pan out ? I've noticed that the most common opinion is that the best of qfa nth & Sth will form one division whilst the bottom qfa nth & Sth sides and most qafa a sides would form the other division. Imo the first option would work and work well but the second one wouldn't. I think you'd find that the bottom qfa sides would be miles better than any qafa side as they currently stand ( and yes, that includes the surfers Suns from Logan ). What are your thoughts ?
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If it was up to me TT then I would be going the best 12 clubs from nth/sth - all 6 nth teams + the top 6 sth teams. Play everyone twice in your "conference" and once the other conf giving 16 games - final 6 to allow for the fact that you don't play everyone twice. Would mean 3 games per year that you travel over and above what you do now - think this is in the realms of doable for 99% of blokes including 2's players. The rest of the clubs in the sth I would filter into the QAFA (A) comp and make a 15 team comp with again not everyone playing each other twice but by geography you play those closest (rival games) twice and everyone else once to make an 18 game season. Most of the current QAFA (A) comp is south based anyway.
I agree Bond shows that sides can compete up but in reality there is a vast difference in standard - Bond always were going to be a quality side with the backing of the University - there aren't many clubs that have that as a carrot to attract players or even retain..... Most clubs ebb and flow a bit and its actually more about what happens when they are down then up imo bc you can go out of business very quickly when things go sour. Clubs like Coomera need to go back a standard to reset themselves and like it or not, on field success is nearly the only way you can attract players no matter what standard of footy you are playing at.

I actually do not think the QAFL set up will remain - reckon there could be Moreton Bay coming in that will allow for players from the sunshine coast and Nth Bris to play - maybe Sandgate will come back in due course to replace. Certainly the Hawks facilities are an issue for that standard of footy.

Re losing young players Blocker - will always occur I think unless you are playing at QAFL level - I still think the solution is promotion/relegation system. This at least gives a carrot for coaches/committees to aim at. Only occurs between QAFA (A) and QAFL (div 2)
 
karmaking said:
QAFA A has dramatically improved in past two years mainly due to large numbers of players dropping down from the top level into QAFA A. I think Bond have proved the gap between divisions is not as great as it once was with their efforts this year, they only added a couple of players to their list this year. Pirates, Kedron, Suns all have a good spread of top end talent now and are in a strong position to follow Bonds path.
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More about the quality of the players added and if they have actually lost anyone from last year I think. Most clubs lose players and dont necessarily replace with guns..
 

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smy1305 said:
If it was up to me TT then I would be going the best 12 clubs from nth/sth - all 6 nth teams + the top 6 sth teams. Play everyone twice in your "conference" and once the other conf giving 16 games - final 6 to allow for the fact that you don't play everyone twice. Would mean 3 games per year that you travel over and above what you do now - think this is in the realms of doable for 99% of blokes including 2's players. The rest of the clubs in the sth I would filter into the QAFA (A) comp and make a 15 team comp with again not everyone playing each other twice but by geography you play those closest (rival games) twice and everyone else once to make an 18 game season. Most of the current QAFA (A) comp is south based anyway.
I agree Bond shows that sides can compete up but in reality there is a vast difference in standard - Bond always were going to be a quality side with the backing of the University - there aren't many clubs that have that as a carrot to attract players or even retain..... Most clubs ebb and flow a bit and its actually more about what happens when they are down then up imo bc you can go out of business very quickly when things go sour. Clubs like Coomera need to go back a standard to reset themselves and like it or not, on field success is nearly the only way you can attract players no matter what standard of footy you are playing at.

I actually do not think the QAFL set up will remain - reckon there could be Moreton Bay coming in that will allow for players from the sunshine coast and Nth Bris to play - maybe Sandgate will come back in due course to replace. Certainly the Hawks facilities are an issue for that standard of footy.

Re losing young players Blocker - will always occur I think unless you are playing at QAFL level - I still think the solution is promotion/relegation system. This at least gives a carrot for coaches/committees to aim at. Only occurs between QAFA (A) and QAFL (div 2)
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Reckon you have got it pretty spot on but think you'll find that Robina would demolish every side in your new qafa a comp, at least for the first season or two ( depending on whether they bring in relegation/promotion ). That being said, your solution looks to be the fairest and most competitive way forward.
 
Well done to buzz and his boys at moorooka in their come from behind win against a recognised finals aspirant. A telling loss for Wynnum
 
Twinkle_Toes said:
Well done to buzz and his boys at moorooka in their come from behind win against a recognised finals aspirant. A telling loss for Wynnum
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Moorooka where desperate to win the game, I noticed a few of the Roosters players even bought their Kitchen Sinks with them!!! That's how desperate a few of these Roosters players where. The young Vikings need to learn to toughen up! Maybe the result would have been different for the Vikings. A win is a win I guess! But a proud win? It wasn't!
 
The_Sherrin said:
Moorooka where desperate to win the game, I noticed a few of the Roosters players even bought their Kitchen Sinks with them!!! That's how desperate a few of these Roosters players where. The young Vikings need to learn to toughen up! Maybe the result would have been different for the Vikings. A win is a win I guess! But a proud win? It wasn't!
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How is it not a proud win for the roosters? Coming from 34 points down 10 mins into the 3rd quarter and and getting a win!!
 
The Buzza said:
How is it not a proud win for the roosters? Coming from 34 points down 10 mins into the 3rd quarter and and getting a win!!
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If Moorooka, played with the same desperation at all cost for the full duration of the game the Roosters would have beaten the Vikings by 100pts. Vikings just aren't a physical side, rough them up they will go missing! Maybe that's a telling sign for the Vikings? Or maybe the Vikings players have to go to work on Monday? Congrats your victory!!
 
The_Sherrin said:
Moorooka where desperate to win the game, I noticed a few of the Roosters players even bought their Kitchen Sinks with them!!! That's how desperate a few of these Roosters players where. The young Vikings need to learn to toughen up! Maybe the result would have been different for the Vikings. A win is a win I guess! But a proud win? It wasn't!
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Why wasn't it a proud win?
 
Twinkle_Toes said:
Reckon you have got it pretty spot on but think you'll find that Robina would demolish every side in your new qafa a comp, at least for the first season or two ( depending on whether they bring in relegation/promotion ). That being said, your solution looks to be the fairest and most competitive way forward.
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Yes, I was mindful that Robina are the 7th best side in the sth conference and clearly better than 8th...
Not sure if there is ultimately a "fair" cut off point. As we all know sides fluctuate from year to year. Probably should be more based on a clubs capacity to consistently produce results. eg Colts program, history.. Think relegation/promotion provides interest for clubs at both ends of the ladder and yeah it can have its issues where a club "buys" a premiership and no $$ left in the cupboard for when they really need them like going up a division so get duly pole axed every week and on the flip side a relegated club loses better players to nearby clubs that have stayed up. Swings and roundabouts to me. Just think it allows clubs to strive for something at all stages of the year.
 
They should be very wary of deciding which QFA clubs go to QAFA A based on only 2016 results.

Robina for example were a dominant side who lost one H&A game only 2 seasons back.

No question the Top 3 in QAFA A would account for the likes of Alex Hills, Cooly and Coomera though. (In my view)
 
Thommo 42 said:
They should be very wary of deciding which QFA clubs go to QAFA A based on only 2016 results.

Robina for example were a dominant side who lost one H&A game only 2 seasons back.

No question the Top 3 in QAFA A would account for the likes of Alex Hills, Cooly and Coomera though. (In my view)
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I personally think the top side in QAFA A (the Suns) would test more than just the bottom three of QFA South

My opinion only of course , but the Suns are a scary looking outfit. And they should go through undefeated and win the flag.
 

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