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10 is much better for improving the overall standard Stuyd - confines the talent to a smaller number of teams. I suppose we could argue the point as to which 10 clubs would be best suited to being in that mix but I feel that the standard they are eventually trying to reach is such that the QAFL is a legitimate State league that recruiters can look at with the same sort of line as SANFL/WAFL.
 
Aspley obviously here to stay, however as a local football lover, you would prefer to see a higher ratio of local talent on their list. Hopefully Tasmania getting an AFL license stops the talent drain, but with the TSL disbanding, who knows?

Sherwood and Grange would have to be under pressure, both only had one good year in the last 6 or 7 - but also well established bases, good locations and strong clubs.

Redland would be the natural one to drop out, 90% of their list aren't local, they have residual strength from NEAFL days that will slowly dry up and they aren't a strong junior club. How many of them actually live within 20 minutes of the club?

Having said that, I reckon 11 clubs is good. A club bye is a good thing at this level, allows players to make plans for life outside footy without being frowned at!
 

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Miller1971 said:
Aspley obviously here to stay, however as a local football lover, you would prefer to see a higher ratio of local talent on their list. Hopefully Tasmania getting an AFL license stops the talent drain, but with the TSL disbanding, who knows?

Sherwood and Grange would have to be under pressure, both only had one good year in the last 6 or 7 - but also well established bases, good locations and strong clubs.

Redland would be the natural one to drop out, 90% of their list aren't local, they have residual strength from NEAFL days that will slowly dry up and they aren't a strong junior club. How many of them actually live within 20 minutes of the club?

Having said that, I reckon 11 clubs is good. A club bye is a good thing at this level, allows players to make plans for life outside footy without being frowned at!
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Yea I'm of the same mindset about a bye Miller. Mind you i think 18 games + 2 whole round byes are best.
 
Miller1971 said:
Aspley obviously here to stay, however as a local football lover, you would prefer to see a higher ratio of local talent on their list. Hopefully Tasmania getting an AFL license stops the talent drain, but with the TSL disbanding, who knows?

Sherwood and Grange would have to be under pressure, both only had one good year in the last 6 or 7 - but also well established bases, good locations and strong clubs.

Redland would be the natural one to drop out, 90% of their list aren't local, they have residual strength from NEAFL days that will slowly dry up and they aren't a strong junior club. How many of them actually live within 20 minutes of the club?

Having said that, I reckon 11 clubs is good. A club bye is a good thing at this level, allows players to make plans for life outside footy without being frowned at!
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8 out of 22 are juniors' and a another 8 have played for many years - think again.
 
smy1305 said:
10 is much better for improving the overall standard Stuyd - confines the talent to a smaller number of teams. I suppose we could argue the point as to which 10 clubs would be best suited to being in that mix but I feel that the standard they are eventually trying to reach is such that the QAFL is a legitimate State league that recruiters can look at with the same sort of line as SANFL/WAFL.
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Smy,
I hear what you are saying and do not say you are wrong .. but I ask ,, does having 10 sides really improve the standard,, I dont think it does in comparsion to having 12 sides ,, having 12 sides allows more good players to come into the into the comp recruiting wise and allows for the young players with plenty of potential to get a few games in the seniors as a path to their development.
I feel the standard of the QAFL has risen very much in the past 2 seasons becauce of having 12 clubs.
Also , imo , 11 clubs is a pain in the butt,, and clubs as a whole do not like the bye scenario.
And the inclusion and growth of the female teams within the comp are a big bonus to clubs
 
stuyd1 said:
Smy,
I hear what you are saying and do not say you are wrong .. but I ask ,, does having 10 sides really improve the standard,, I dont think it does in comparsion to having 12 sides ,, having 12 sides allows more good players to come into the into the comp recruiting wise and allows for the young players with plenty of potential to get a few games in the seniors as a path to their development.
I feel the standard of the QAFL has risen very much in the past 2 seasons becauce of having 12 clubs.
Also , imo , 11 clubs is a pain in the butt,, and clubs as a whole do not like the bye scenario.
And the inclusion and growth of the female teams within the comp are a big bonus to clubs
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I’ve heard that Southport may not be in the VFL within the next few years with the afl looking to make it a national twos comp. Would raise the standard but that would make 13 teams so would the be bumping someone out?
 

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freddyfudrucker said:
How did that play out?
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Well a team that had 15+ players with 50+ games of NEAFL and/or VFL experience was running around at 44 points on Grand Final day, so it didn't work out very well!

Anyone else wants to get 15 of them, and thats 75 points with 7 spots still left to fill!
 
Thommo 42 said:
Well a team that had 15+ players with 50+ games of NEAFL and/or VFL experience was running around at 44 points on Grand Final day, so it didn't work out very well!

Anyone else wants to get 15 of them, and thats 75 points with 7 spots still left to fill!
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And the other mob had 14 with 42 points.
Then you get the teams with points concessions because they have VFL listed players, but that isn't equal across teams either.
Not sure what the answer is because everyone wants to see a stronger competition.
But the continual complaining on here is getting boring.
 
Agreed, but its a valid argument. Simple fix would have been only counting games at QAFL level or lower as time served for points concessions. Otherwise, not much else they could have done.

To make the competition stronger, and QLD footy stronger - more needs to be done to retain and develop local talent

Where are the likes of Scheer, Haberer, Tozer, Conroy, Johnston, Crozier, Fitzpatrick, Tasker, Quint, Currie, Marsh, Greenwool etc etc?

Kids that have played Allies or been prominent performers for QLD in the last 5 years and none of them playing footy in the QAFL or in many cases at all? Those are just names that come to mind, there are probably 50 more!

The talent drain is right there for all to see - what are they doing?
 
Miller1971 said:
Agreed, but its a valid argument. Simple fix would have been only counting games at QAFL level or lower as time served for points concessions. Otherwise, not much else they could have done.

To make the competition stronger, and QLD footy stronger - more needs to be done to retain and develop local talent

Where are the likes of Scheer, Haberer, Tozer, Conroy, Johnston, Crozier, Fitzpatrick, Tasker, Quint, Currie, Marsh, Greenwool etc etc?

Kids that have played Allies or been prominent performers for QLD in the last 5 years and none of them playing footy in the QAFL or in many cases at all? Those are just names that come to mind, there are probably 50 more!

The talent drain is right there for all to see - what are they doing?
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Don't think the levels of money are such in Qld footy that blokes who miss out at the last hurdle suddenly see QAFL footy as a great alternative. Whereas in Vic (as an example) a kid misses out on a AFL list and potentially within 2 years are being paid $500+ / game. You can try and bang on as often as you like to teach kids to "love the game, not the trappings" but for many, the only reason they are playing is to get to the pointy end and if they don't then other options become viable.

BTW - like your solution to the points debacle.
 
smy1305 said:
Don't think the levels of money are such in Qld footy that blokes who miss out at the last hurdle suddenly see QAFL footy as a great alternative. Whereas in Vic (as an example) a kid misses out on a AFL list and potentially within 2 years are being paid $500+ / game. You can try and bang on as often as you like to teach kids to "love the game, not the trappings" but for many, the only reason they are playing is to get to the pointy end and if they don't then other options become viable.

BTW - like your solution to the points debacle.
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this has been true forever though, yes part of it is a cultural shift where kids move onto other things but there's also wayyyy less connection with clubs now as the really good ones spend so much of their time outside the club at academies etc
 
Lensen said:
this has been true forever though, yes part of it is a cultural shift where kids move onto other things but there's also wayyyy less connection with clubs now as the really good ones spend so much of their time outside the club at academies etc
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Yes - I would agree with that Lensen. I'm not sure what the solution to that is except to continue to encourage the player to understand that the odds of being with their club for the remainder of their football career as distinct an AFL career is significantly weighted in favour. of the club
 
smy1305 said:
Yes - I would agree with that Lensen. I'm not sure what the solution to that is except to continue to encourage the player to understand that the odds of being with their club for the remainder of their football career as distinct an AFL career is significantly weighted in favour. of the club
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SMY. Agreed. Do you think that this is ever advised to these young players?

Maybe if the Academies had a KPI of graduating players still being in senior footy (at any level) in 3-4 years later they’d work with the clubs to do so?
 
LaggingBehind said:
SMY. Agreed. Do you think that this is ever advised to these young players?

Maybe if the Academies had a KPI of graduating players still being in senior footy (at any level) in 3-4 years later they’d work with the clubs to do so?
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Got to comment,, many youngsters that are looking good in their teenage years , playing rep footy , making a acadamy list ETC ETC and then disappear from the QLD footy scene , does not mean they have gone interstate to get better bucks,, yes some do , but some simply drop back to lower grades just to enjoy footy, some simply quit playing footy , some pursue other sports, some make their working career a priority. etc etc .. This occurs all over the nation ,, not just in QLD,
 
I believe its much worse up here.

If you went through the last 5 QLD u18 sides before it got split into Lions/Suns, and then the most recent 5 Level 3 sides for each of those academies, I recon you will find about 60-70% of them are completely lost to footy and not playing anywhere.

That right there is why the competition strength isn't what it should be, as the best talent is frequently lost to the game.

Is it the academies fault? Is it the clubs fault? Not really sure, I used to think all the blame lay with the academies, but I also see clubs spend half their off-season trying to sign blokes from interstate, which probably tells talented young QLD kids that 'we don't think you're good enough'

something needs to change though, as its not a great outcome for anyone.
 

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