Review R3: Port v North Melbourne Review

[Ant Bear]

1. It was 38-15 at the end. 28-10 at 3QT. We somehow managed to even cop a 5 free disparity while winning the last quarter by three goals.

2. That tally also doesn't include a stack of frees to Schulz (1 FF/0 FA) and Westhoff (0/2) that were missed, while Petrie (3/1) & Linz (4/1) couldn't be touched up the other end.

3.

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A run of 19 free kicks to 1 between the middle of Q1 and the early stages of Q3; 11-1 in Q2 despite us winning the quarter by 3 goals. I mean drink that in for a second. We won that quarter handsomely, despite North winning a free every other minute of gametime. How does that even work?

You'd be excused for assuming we unashamedly went the knuckle - or were actively throwing the game.

I don't harbour the hatred for North that a lot here seem to, know a handful of their blokes and they're intelligent, jovial types who are just as passionate and immersed as any one of us, but when it comes to anyone subscribing to the theory that North were hard done by the other night, it's GTFO territory.

We could win the next 5 flags and I'll still vomit blood over that Hobart game. If Stewart, Meredith and McInerney umpired a game like that under the glare of ANZAC Day, Easter Monday or a final, they'd never take the field again.

There are a LOT of "f"s and "fk"s in that graphic. Are you sure that it is not a transcription of my commentary on the game?

 

[cuthbert30]

1. It was 38-15 at the end. 28-10 at 3QT. We somehow managed to even cop a 5 free disparity while winning the last quarter by three goals.

2. That tally also doesn't include a stack of frees to Schulz (1 FF/0 FA) and Westhoff (0/2) that were missed, while Petrie (3/1) & Linz (4/1) couldn't be touched up the other end.

3.

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A run of 19 free kicks to 1 between the middle of Q1 and the early stages of Q3; 11-1 in Q2 despite us winning the quarter by 3 goals. I mean drink that in for a second. We won that quarter handsomely, despite North winning a free every other minute of gametime. How does that even work?

You'd be excused for assuming we unashamedly went the knuckle - or were actively throwing the game.

I don't harbour the hatred for North that a lot here seem to, know a handful of their blokes and they're intelligent, jovial types who are just as passionate and immersed as any one of us, but when it comes to anyone subscribing to the theory that North were hard done by the other night, it's GTFO territory.

We could win the next 5 flags and I'll still vomit blood over that Hobart game. If Stewart, Meredith and McInerney umpired a game like that under the glare of ANZAC Day, Easter Monday or a final, they'd never take the field again.

Swings and roundabouts ....it all even outs in the long run
This is not aimed at you tribey in any way but why do people think someone can make the correct call on every single contest/incident in a split second and have the perfect view of it ?it doesn't happen even a replay half the time is never conclusive .Aussie rules are the most greyest of rules in any sport so what chance do the umpires have?
If people think they can do a better job then go down to your local footy and sign up as an umpire and see how you go.
An umpire only makes a call on what he thinks he see's and players milking it don't help .

 

[Ant Bear]

Swings and roundabouts ....it all even outs in the long run
This is not aimed at you tribey in any way but why do people think someone can make the correct call on every single contest/incident in a split second and have the perfect view of it ?it doesn't happen even a replay half the time is never conclusive .Aussie rules are the most greyest of rules in any sport so what chance do the umpires have?
If people think they can do a better job then go down to your local footy and sign up as an umpire and see how you go.
An umpire only makes a call on what he thinks he see's and players milking it don't help .

Someone hasn't seen the game in question...

 

[Andre]

Someone hasn't seen the game in question...

Or that over the years it hasn't been swings and roundabouts for Port in general. Shit year or good year we are generally in the free kick total red.

 

[bacharach]

After watching the replay of Saturday nights game after missing it i for one was very impressed with the short cameo from Ah Chee. Thought he showed some good signs for a first gamer in such a high pressure game. On quite a few occasions he was in the right places at stoppages and was more than surprised by his size and speed. I would love for him to keep his place and play more minutes against the hawks.

Same. Watched it again, looked closer and was impressed.

Selection panel did good. When the game was on the line, minutes to go...between Mitchell, Arch and Young...two goals and a goal assist. Not discounting the efforts of the others, just saying the ins delivered.

 

[cuthbert30]

Someone hasn't seen the game in question...

rubbish
my point is don't whinge about umpires unless you can do better that's all
we give away a lot of frees cause of dumb decision making

 

[Rising Power]

Just watching a replay as I couldn't see the whole game on the night. Just noticed Broady's shot at goal in the first couple of minutes, hits the outer behind post but goes through and is called a behind and a kick out is taken. Shouldn't it have been a throw in? Or did it bounce through and then back into the post?

 

[Doctor Feel]

People are forgetting 2007 against the Bulldogs in heritage round too. Dat dere umpiring disgrace.

 

[CrimsonRaven]

The deliberate point rule was brought in to stop players from winding down the clock when kicking in from a point by just playing on and stepping back over the line to get another 20 seconds off the clock.

Can't remember the name but a Richmond player did it about 10 times in a close game that year which was widely derided.

 

[cuthbert30]

The deliberate point rule was brought in to stop players from winding down the clock when kicking in from a point by just playing on and stepping back over the line to get another 20 seconds off the clock.

Can't remember the name but a Richmond player did it about 10 times in a close game that year which was widely derided.

happened in a grand final as well ...hawthorn 2008 I think ?

 

[Peck]

The deliberate point rule was brought in to stop players from winding down the clock when kicking in from a point by just playing on and stepping back over the line to get another 20 seconds off the clock.

Can't remember the name but a Richmond player did it about 10 times in a close game that year which was widely derided.

The king of dream team himself, Joel Bowden.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Same. Watched it again, looked closer and was impressed.

Selection panel did good. When the game was on the line, minutes to go...between Mitchell, Arch and Young...two goals and a goal assist. Not discounting the efforts of the others, just saying the ins delivered.

Agree with this. Young was an obvious in and played accordingly, but I was really impressed with the two more debatable ins.

Mitchell played within his limitations and played his role really well, taking chances when they came. Arch came on in a pressure cooker environment and didn't put a foot wrong. Well done to them, neither can be accused of not taking his chance.

 

[LeoMessi]

rubbish
my point is don't whinge about umpires unless you can do better that's all
we give away a lot of frees cause of dumb decision making

You REALLY haven't seen the game in question. I have never seen a worse umpired game than that game in question. You should try find a replay to watch it

 

[Forzaport]

rubbish
my point is don't whinge about umpires unless you can do better that's all
we give away a lot of frees cause of dumb decision making

You do realise that Michael Keaton was Batman the last time the free kick count was so lopsided. The game has become so much more professional since then that it's almost impossible that Port were so careless and North so careful to justify 38-15. It just doesn't happen like that.

 

[mic59]

Just watching a replay as I couldn't see the whole game on the night. Just noticed Broady's shot at goal in the first couple of minutes, hits the outer behind post but goes through and is called a behind and a kick out is taken. Shouldn't it have been a throw in? Or did it bounce through and then back into the post?

Couldn't be sure, it was definitely going towards the post but took a turn just before the post. It hit something as it moved again before hitting the ground but I think it may have hit the boundary umpire over the behind line. Anyway the boundary umpire signalled a behind although with the quality of umpires that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

 

[tribey]

Swings and roundabouts ....it all even outs in the long run
This is not aimed at you tribey in any way but why do people think someone can make the correct call on every single contest/incident in a split second and have the perfect view of it ?it doesn't happen even a replay half the time is never conclusive .Aussie rules are the most greyest of rules in any sport so what chance do the umpires have?

There were no swings and roundabouts that day. The trio in question made the NFL Replacement Refs look like infallible cyborgs, or Infalliborgs.

If people think they can do a better job then go down to your local footy and sign up as an umpire and see how you go.
An umpire only makes a call on what he thinks he see's and players milking it don't help .

So if a surgeon was to remove your balls instead of your moles - an honest mistake - you'd respond with "nah fair cop, I'd like to see me do better"?

The three whistlers that day weren't young blokes volunteering at their local U17's comp, they are top flight umpires and are remunerated accordingly.

When they have an absolute shocker - even the mild-mannered Gerard Whateley said we were shafted in the aftermath - their performance should be subject to criticism like everyone else. And even then it wasn't, because it was 'Umpire Appreciation Round'.

 

[Lambot]

I was there that day (38-15) with TSW. The crowd was basically silent (except for TSW!), but when the crowd did yell, it usually meant a free kick to Norf. And when a free went the other way, the decision got some real hostility. The umpires were drawn into it. No doubt about it. The crowd had a massive say that day.

It was actually really bizarre though. You could hear a pin drop most of the day.

I did get a great laugh from TSW berating Lindsey Thomas though. I think even the surrounding Norf supporters enjoyed the banter.

 

[cuthbert30]

I never said it was well umpired I just don't see the point in whinging about umpires after any game .

 

[Power04Surge]

Same. Watched it again, looked closer and was impressed.

Selection panel did good. When the game was on the line, minutes to go...between Mitchell, Arch and Young...two goals and a goal assist. Not discounting the efforts of the others, just saying the ins delivered.

Especially liked the awareness in close by Ah Chee on a couple of occasions when in stoppages he allowed for the likes of Gray and Boak to have a clear run and take clean possession at crucial times instead of just grabbing and bombing the ball forward himself. Would love to see him start against the hawks and have mitchell come on as the sub half way through the third. Think he can defiantly provide some extra physicality with Wines out.

 

[Powerade 08]

my point is don't whinge about umpires unless you can do better that's all

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There were no swings and roundabouts that day. The trio in question made the NFL Replacement Refs look like infallible cyborgs, or Infalliborgs.



So if a surgeon was to remove your balls instead of your moles - an honest mistake - you'd respond with "nah fair cop, I'd like to see me do better"?

The three whistlers that day weren't young blokes volunteering at their local U17's comp, they are top flight umpires and are remunerated accordingly.

When they have an absolute shocker - even the mild-mannered Gerard Whateley said we were shafted in the aftermath - their performance should be subject to criticism like everyone else. And even then it wasn't, because it was 'Umpire Appreciation Round'.

I believe we also sent a please explain to the umpire boss during the week, no response.

 

[cuthbert30]

There were no swings and roundabouts that day..

I was meaning there were and will be games were we get "the rub of the green" so to speak

. The trio in question made the NFL Replacement Refs look like infallible cyborgs, or Infalliborgs.
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I never said they had a great day

 

[Ant Bear]

So if a surgeon was to remove your balls instead of your moles - an honest mistake - you'd respond with "nah fair cop, I'd like to see me do better"?

Perhaps he'd give him an arse-fondle and say "Well played"?

 

[El_Scorcho]

Yeah, but the thing is players walk over the line under reasonably small pressure, handball the ball over the line from 10 m out, etc. etc. all the time. I certainly agree that players are more afraid of running the ball over the line, which is a very good thing, but they usually get away with it even if they do it. I actually don't even know what they are scared of. As long as you don't handball it through from 20 metres out under no pressure, you are going to be fine.

I like the rule. I think it was an obvious change, and it was good it came in so quickly. I just feel like rushing a behind and being awarded with a kickout is a stupid thing. Its too hard for me to tell if its integral to the balance of the game, but it just seems dumb *shrug*

I think the line should be a safe haven, but not to the point where you can Joel Bowden it.

It's great that players who get the ball in their own goalsquare will look to take the game on to get it out of defence. I reckon if you went back and watched a game from before the rule change, you'd be amazed at how many times the ball is just walked over the line for safety.

 

[philthy05]

Haha wasn't there a game where Bowden did it 14 times?

 

[El_Scorcho]

I never said it was well umpired I just don't see the point in whinging about umpires after any game .

I've watched hundreds of Port Adelaide matches both live and on TV.

There are only 3 times that I feel umpiring had any real say in the matter over the course of the game.

One was the 2007 Bulldogs heritage round

One was the infamous Essendon last quarter

But this one was just above and beyond anything i'd ever seen before. It wasn't a few free kicks at a few key moments that cost us, it was an onslaught of 2 sets of rules for the whole day. The free kick differential was 23, the highest free kick differential in 22 years, and the margin was 10 points. We were absolutely cost the game by the umpiring that day.

And i'll only say that about 3 games i've ever watched us play.