Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

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bengrina said:
No stress mate, no offence taken . They have been quite concerned since it all happened and the very likely threat against them based on their religious beliefs. They were initially shocked at how quickly it all moved . Basically 72 hours for complete overthrow of existing system . They had mentioned how radicalised these ‘rebels’ were. I’m unsure why they have held off on trying to leave . I’m happy to ask any questions any of you may have on the current circumstances as they are literally right in the middle of it . We often take it for granted but we are all so blessed to live in this country.
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We are very lucky.

Everything will be kind of normal for them until men drive into their area in a Toyota Hylux.
 
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bengrina said:
No stress mate, no offence taken . They have been quite concerned since it all happened and the very likely threat against them based on their religious beliefs. They were initially shocked at how quickly it all moved . Basically 72 hours for complete overthrow of existing system . They had mentioned how radicalised these ‘rebels’ were. I’m unsure why they have held off on trying to leave . I’m happy to ask any questions any of you may have on the current circumstances as they are literally right in the middle of it . We often take it for granted but we are all so blessed to live in this country.
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Are they planning on leaving?
 
Val Keating said:
Are they planning on leaving?
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It’s a very dangerous situation for them to be trying to move I’d imagine . I think there are 3-4 million alawite in Syria, where do they go? Some members of her family were distraught when Assad left but have had to pretend that they were celebrating at fear of attack . As I said , from what I know first hand from family over there , this isn’t a liberation army , they are extremists . I’ll update when I learn more tomorrow 🙏
 

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Chadwiko said:
Yes there is definitely an element of truth to this. But (as with all things Syria) it's not really possible to distil extremely complex and dynamic sociological circumstances into neat little analogies.

As an over-simplified example, Alawis and other Shiite groups prospered, whilst Sunnis and Kurds were brutalized.

However even that isn't a clean summary, because there are Alawi groups among the Syrian Rebels, and Assad's army had a high percentage of Sunni soldiers and officers.

So... yeah. It's not a clean comparison.
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So why bring it up?
 
Val Keating said:
FFS. You were told what this was and scoffed.

Israel put in a jihadists group and jihadists do as they always do.
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No. You are still conflating separate groups all under the extremist umbrella. It's really racist at this point, considering how many times it has been explained to you in plain English.

Pull your head in. Disgusting behaviour.
 
Chadwiko said:
This... is nothing? This doesn't say anything. It's hyperbole.

How many times does it need to be explained to you before you understand? Which part are you struggling with?
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It’s not nothing. It’s an Israeli defence ministry personnel talking about overthrowing the Syrian government. The people that they used were jihadists.

But you’ve made your thoughts on Israel working with jihadists pretty clear, it’s nothing to you, but it’s not nothing
 
Bojan KantKick said:
Val, can you stop calling the terrorists, terrorists. It's really racist.
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My bad. I forgot he got a haircut and beard trim.

Does it make a difference that Assal Rad has the same opinion? I know she only has a PhD in modern Middle Eastern history, but captain lockthread disapproves because…. um CNN told him he should they’re good. Oh and Biden said it too
 
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Val Keating said:
My bad. I forgot he got a haircut and beard trim.
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NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC DUDE YOU KEEP BRINGING UP.

Jesus christ are you seriously this thick that you cannot differentiate between brown people?

As I've repeatedly said; yes there are ISIS and HTS and other islamic extremists among the groups collectively referred to as the 'Syrian Rebels'. No one is denying this.

But there are also groups in the 'Syrian Rebels' who actively opposed ISIS/HTS, and who are not Islamic Extremists. And those are the groups that Israel and the US has worked with.

Lumping them all together, especially after it has been repeatedly explained to you how they differ, is unquestionably racist. You're saying all Arabs are terrorists and that's ****ing disgusting.
 
The fact that none of the other clique members are calling you out for this Val is just further proof that none of you campaigners are here "just to discuss the issues and look at things from all sides".

This could have been a great opportunity for ferball or DR, who so frequently claim to care about truth and facts, to correct you for your repeated nonsense Val. But alas...

You're an echo chamber of misinformation and conspiracy nonsense.
 
Chadwiko said:
Yes, this is sort of accurate.

Some cohorts did very well under Assad.
Most did not, however.

There's strong parallels to the fall of South Africa's apartheid regime. For the white Afrikaans, life was pretty good under apartheid. For everyone else... it wasn't.

I'm not suggesting it's a clean like-for-like comparison, to be sure. But there's strong parallels in Syria with different religious and cultural groups who were clearly brutally oppressed under Assad's regime.
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Assad was a brutal dictator, he did heinous things but it wasn’t about race or religion, he had a bunch of secular people all throughout his cabinet, it was about power. To draw parallels to South Africa's apartheid regime is a bit of a stretch.

Although there’s another country which did create an open air prison for a different ethnic group and have now proceeded now to commit genocide, right next door.
 
Chadwiko said:
NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC DUDE YOU KEEP BRINGING UP.

Jesus christ are you seriously this thick that you cannot differentiate between brown people?

As I've repeatedly said; yes there are ISIS and HTS and other islamic extremists among the groups collectively referred to as the 'Syrian Rebels'. No one is denying this.

But there are also groups in the 'Syrian Rebels' who actively opposed ISIS/HTS, and who are not Islamic Extremists. And those are the groups that Israel and the US has worked with.

Lumping them all together, especially after it has been repeatedly explained to you how they differ, is unquestionably racist. You're saying all Arabs are terrorists and that's ****ing disgusting.
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Benghazi?
Arming moderate rebels in the region, ultimately those weapons ended up in the hands of extremists that attacked the US consulate?
 

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