Play Nice Random Chat Thread VII

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Here's the thing. If Iggy Azalea pivoted to **** Biden, release the Epstein tapes and scamdemic stuff, you'd all be over it.

 

[ferball]

Nah this is bullshit. Again.

Listen to Bill Burr's opinions on the topic. He nails it 100%.

Any comedian who claims they are being cancelled for jokes is either a shit comedian or a liar.

Nothing has changed in the world of comedy. Good stand up is good. Bad stand up is bad.

Good stand up is built on a foundation of 'punching UP' not punching down. Think of your George Carlins and Bill Hicks rallying against conservative culture and puritanical bullshit. There's a reason they're considered among the greats of all time.

Punching 'down' is just bad comedy. If you're using stand up to attack trans or gay people, or minorities... you aren't being "cancelled" when people tell you that it's just not good content.

Bill Hicks would be hounded today.

He made jokes about using disabled people as stunt doubles in Hollywood and about a goat headed demon eating out a 16 year old girl.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Help me understand.

He did get cancelled though.

Like I wrote earlier, people can’t really be cancelled anymore.

 

[Val Keating]

He is not a republican or a trump fan.

Yeah he is. Have you ever listened to Matt and Shane’s secret podcast?

 

[Chadwiko]

Bill Hicks would be hounded today.

Only if you judge his content through a modern lens, which is a fools errand.

IE Comedians (and hip-hop artists) all used to very liberally use the '******' words etc. We've moved on.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Bill Hicks would be hounded today.

He made jokes about using disabled people as stunt doubles in Hollywood and about a goat headed demon eating out a 16 year old girl.

Have you watched Anthony Jeselnik? Brilliant shock comedy that is on that level. Not cancelled, or hounded.

He makes a great point. The comedians crying about criticism are usually pretty shitty comedians who are being ****wits first, comedians second. Then it's a part of their marketing pitch.

 

[Val Keating]

Help me understand.

He got cancelled from Saturday night live years ago. Almost ruined his career. Couldn’t get bookings, but his friends like Rogan, Hinchliffe etc stuck by him.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Yeah he is. Have you ever listened to Matt and Shane’s secret podcast?

No, but Ive seen multiple stories about him saying he's not one, and Ive seen him take the piss out of them.

 

[Val Keating]

He is neither of those things, for the record.

Have you even watched his comedy specials? He literally says verbatim he's not Republican in his most recent Netflix special hahaha.

He finds Trump hilarious and does a great Trump impression, but he's said he didn't vote for him.

I bet you’ve only started following him the last couple of years.

 

[Chadwiko]

Have you watched Anthony Jeselnik? Brilliant shock comedy that is on that level. Not cancelled, or hounded.

He makes a great point. The comedians crying about criticism are usually pretty shitty comedians who are being ****wits first, comedians second. Then it's a part of their marketing pitch.

Yup, he nails it. It's a great bit.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

He got cancelled from Saturday night live years ago. Almost ruined his career. Couldn’t get bookings, but his friends like Rogan, Hinchliffe etc stuck by him.

Then he wasn't cancelled.

 

[Val Keating]

No, but Ive seen multiple stories about him saying he's not one, and Ive seen him take the piss out of them.

Yeah he takes the piss out of literally everything.

 

[Chadwiko]

I bet you’ve only started following him the last couple of years.

I bet you first saw him on Joe Rogan.

 

[Val Keating]

Then he wasn't cancelled.

They tried pretty hard.

But like I said, you can’t cancel someone anymore because the gatekeepers are gone.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

They tried pretty hard.

But like I said, you can’t cancel someone anymore because the gatekeepers are gone.

Here's the thing. The term gatekeeper is one of those amorphous phrases you can to avoid being pinned down by.

In this example, you can't. It was Lorne Michaels. He produced SNL, and sacked him. He was the gatekeeper.

He then let him host earlier this year. The 'gatekeeper' is not gone.

So the reason he was given the arse is something else.

 

[Chadwiko]

Here's the thing. The term gatekeeper is one of those amorphous phrases you can to avoid being pinned down by.

In this example, you can't. It was Lorne Michaels. He produced SNL, and sacked him. He was the gatekeeper.

He then let him host earlier this year. The 'gatekeeper' is not gone.

So the reason he was given the arse is something else.

Generally agree with your overall sentiment, but just to slightly correct you a bit;

NBC fired Gillis, not Lorne. As the story goes, Lorne actually got upset at NBC for firing Gillis.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Generally agree with your overall sentiment, but just to slightly correct you a bit;

NBC fired Gillis, not Lorne. As the story goes, Lorne actually got upset at NBC for firing Gillis.

Thats 1 point for Val

 

[Chadwiko]

 

[Val Keating]

I bet you first saw him on Joe Rogan.

I honestly can’t remember when. Could’ve been from kill Tony or Rogan or maybe Morril or bad friends. Could’ve come up on my IG because it’s literally all just stand up. I find most comedians like that. It was a l while ago

 

[ferball]

No, I'm not the one trying to gatekeep hip-hop, champ.

Yes you are. You're writing off what someone says cos you label them a conspiracy theorist.

My point is that neither of us are Black Americans and neither of us have more of a claim to hip-hop than each other when it comes to our identity.

WTF is this "claim" bullshit?

No, see above.

I've never been bashed for the colour of my skin, but I have been bullied and bashed and attacked for plenty of other culutral shit. Again, you speak like you know me and you don't. It's pathetic.

Yeah and its not the same.

Nice. Mask off?

What mask? Do you think people who weren't white would have needed things to identify them to the general population in Germany? Do you think if Jewish Germans actually looked different they'd be forced to wear some degrading mark on their clothing?

Cool. And then you went to private school and I probably would have happily traded places with you based on that alone.

Yes I went to a private Catholic School in the Essendon and frankly I'd rather not have.

Don't sit there and try and gatekeep an entire genre of music around these phony arguments you've concocted in your head, acting like you have any idea about me and my upbringing and that purely because of the colour of my skin you think I have an innate inability to connect with certain types of music. What sort of bigoted ignorant nonsense is that?!

Its not because of the colour of your skin, its because you're a dogmatic ****en idiot who frames everything as a culture war in exactly the same way a member of the inquisition would frame everything around Catholic dogma in the middle ages. Get that thru your head.

Its cos of your toxic personality not your background.

All this comes down to is this; you don't like me. And because of that, you'll twist whatever narrative you can to try and weaponise it against me. It's literally all you do in these threads. It's hilarious because of how transparent you are.

But the fact you tried to do it with hip-hop is especially hilarious.

You called Immortal Technique a "conspiracy theorist" in a manner that suggests someone "listening" to you should write off everything he says as cooker nonsense.

No I don't like you but I don't go around making snide remarks about your background, your upbringing or anything else. I say straight up if I think something about your past is dodgy.

The reason I don't like you is because you'd rather laugh at MAGA weirdos than try and win them over to your side of politics after stuff like what happened the other day with Trump and the Visas. And that you bully your feloow North Supporters and publicly shit on the club.

AFAIC you're not a good person cos you're not interested in taking people with you to a new and better world even if their ideas now are crap. You don't believe they can change and be better people and that's because you can't. You scapegoat people, you stereotype them and make up stuff about them that isn't true because it suits your arguments on the internet. You probably do this in real life but I really hope you don't.

Frankly I feel more sorry for you than I dislike you tho.

 

[travelli]

Perhaps we could arrange a ‘rap battle’ to settle the score?

Chad and Ferbal, man, y’all just pretenders,
I’m the rap world’s lord, y’all career-enders.
Ferbal, assassin? Bro, what a farce,
Your wordplay’s a sandbox, I’m a world-class art.

And Chad, you a king? Nah, you’re a clown,
Crown’s too big; you’re drowning in nouns.
I’m the architect of rap; y’all the foundation,
But this kingdom is mine, no collaboration.

This mic’s on fire, my rhymes stay hot,
Travelli’s the GOAT, the rest just forgot.
Rap gods hear my name and take a bow,
I’m the future of rap—respect me now!

 

[ferball]

Here's the thing. If Iggy Azalea pivoted to **** Biden, release the Epstein tapes and scamdemic stuff, you'd all be over it.

So what do you think about that whole Epstein thing?

 

[ferball]

Chad and Ferbal, man, y’all just pretenders,
I’m the rap world’s lord, y’all career-enders.
Ferbal, assassin? Bro, what a farce,
Your wordplay’s a sandbox, I’m a world-class art.

And Chad, you a king? Nah, you’re a clown,
Crown’s too big; you’re drowning in nouns.
I’m the architect of rap; y’all the foundation,
But this kingdom is mine, no collaboration.

This mic’s on fire, my rhymes stay hot,
Travelli’s the GOAT, the rest just forgot.
Rap gods hear my name and take a bow,
I’m the future of rap—respect me now!

That's it I'm out...

 

[Chadwiko]

Yes you are. You're writing off what someone says cos you label them a conspiracy theorist.

Hahaha oh my god you're still going on with that?

It's not me who labels him as a conspiracy theorist. It's literally the thing he is most known for! You clown. Hahahaha.

Yes I went to a private Catholic School in the Essendon and frankly I'd rather not have.

Cool. So maybe you can stop trying to attack me for 'privilege' when we've established you actually had the more privileged upbringing, yeah? This whole "you're a white man with a government job" identity politics attack nonsense is beneath you.

No I don't like you but I don't go around making snide remarks about your background, your upbringing or anything else. I say straight up if I think something about your past is dodgy.

HAHAHA what is this revisionist history BS? You literally do this! More than anyone! Even more than Warlord used to. You've attacked me repeatedly for working for VicPol, or for being a "white man", or working for the government, or my appearance, etc etc.

You are the single most toxic person who participates in these threads, and yet you seem to picture yourself as this righteous character of nobility. Shit is hilarious. You've even admitted to 'attacking' me repeatedly.

My god your lack of self-awareness is astounding.

The reason I don't like you is because you'd rather laugh at MAGA weirdos than try and win them over to your side of politics

Yup! I make no apologies for this. MAGA is a cult. Attempting to approach them with rational thought and appeasement is a pointless endeavour.

And that you bully your feloow North Supporters and publicly shit on the club.

Yeah, nah. This is bullshit and lies.

AFAIC you're not a good person cos you're not interested in taking people with you to a new and better world even if their ideas now are crap. You don't believe they can change and be better people and that's because you can't. You scapegoat people, you stereotype them and make up stuff about them that isn't true because it suits your arguments on the internet. You probably do this in real life but I really hope you don't.

Hahahahahahahahahaha. Thank you for the armchair internet psychology diagnosis, ferby. And thank you for continuing to prove my point about you.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Musk is doing a marketing pitch post-explosion. What an absolute campaigner.