Autopsy Rd 4 v Brisbane - Game Discussion and Changes for Hawthorn

[Bazzar]

I think it was 5k as the sub, but you might be right.

Just went back on the IQ and it was 7k.

 

[_RT_]

The Good:
- Forward line structure looked much better except for the 2nd quarter. Lock Griffiths in at CHF, Jack at FF and surround them with Dusty Lloyd Gordon and it's a dangerous mix.
- Cotchin standing up when it was needed.

The Bad:
- The second quarter and first half of the 3rd quarter. That was as poor a brand of footy as I've seen us play since Hardwicks first 9 games.
- Grigg 29 disposals 23 uncontested 0 TACKLES (only player in the side to have 0) yet he'll be out there again next week. Soft shit like this shouldn't be tolerated. Gordon was only for 1/3 of the game and laid 4 tackles.
- S.Edwards last quarter goals will probably keep him in the side too as will Newmans 10 minutes of influence.

Changes:
What I'd like to see is: Out Grigg Newman S.Edwards In: McDonough Lennon Helbig.
What we're likely to get is no change unless Deledio gets up.

Finally lock these guys in for our future from tonight:
Martin Ellis Cotchin Riewoldt Astbury Petterd Houli Hampson Jackson Griffiths Conca Vlastuin Morris Gordon Lloyd.

 

[Dragonss]

Chaplin blanketed McGuane completely.

Lol or is Mcguane just crap?

 

[Groupie_]

I can understand your frustration with your side losing tonight. Better luck next time? At least your mob won a quarter.

Yeah, was hoping Dimma would be sacked this week. Won't happen now

 

[Gentlemen]

Lol or is Mcguane just crap?

Nah, every time it went near McGuane it was smacked away.

To be fair, Brisbane weren't using McGuane as a target much, but still a nice effort from Chappy

 

[Tigers_fan24]

Gordon is perfect sub, Arnot is perfect pressure and Lloyd is perfect accumulator around the forward 50. The other thing is they all can and do tackle.

Arnot, Lloyd and Gordon combined for 16 tackles, Edwards, Grigg and Houli 7 tackles....

Really says it all doesn't it?

 

[velona]

I have to say that I like Pettard as a player. The way I look at it is that he has a go unlike some others (Grigg) and will happily put his body on the line to affect a spoil. Does make the odd bad decision here and there but I would happily take that.

My father always said that Success in anything comes down to 80% hard work and 20% god given talent. Pettard I feel gives his all and if half of the team had is endeavor and hunger then I think we could well be a top 4 side.

Not the biggest fan of petterd but if its between him and grigg for a spot I'd pick him every time. Grigg wasn't that bad today but he has been running around getting cheap possessions for years now.

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[Bazzar]

Apart from the obvious. Which is off course to-drop Petterd
I'm not sure if there will be any changes.

Im tipping he will get his second lot of coaches votes for the year (out of 4 games)

 

[Handsuper47]

A win is a win, even though it wasn't that fun to watch.

 

[Turka]

Lol or is Mcguane just crap?

Bit harsh on the warrior, probably shouldn't have played.
The Herald Sun said he was still 1-2 weeks away with a knee.
Think Leppa forced the issue, he had to try something.

 

[captain cotch 9]

 

[Lukey D]

I hate to be a negative nancy but when Brown took that last mark, say it was Pettard infront of Brown instead of Grigg, do you think Petterd would've got in the road forced the ball out of bounds or taken a few steps to the side in fear like Grigg?

Grigg had 29 touches yes, but I noticed Arnott more who only had 13 touches.

I was an advocate of Grigg but now as I'm involved in the VFL team, seeing McDonough, Lennon, Helbig, McIntosh, Miles, Darrou etc, it pains me to know that these guy will provide just as much, if not more than Grigg while gathering less touches.

 

[Tigerland]

Grimes position must be in doubt. Rance or Batchelor thanks.

Foley needs to come in but for who, I'm not sure.

Tackle practice for Houli all week.

 

[SplintWhisky]

Changes for when It is ready
Out: Hampson, Grigg, Grimes
In: Lids, Maric, Rance

 

[Dragonss]

If we drop Ellis then he can go back to the VFL and perhaps dominate and get his disposal and composure up to scratch.

 

[copthat]

Hampson is a class tap ruckman but is close to the biggest spud I've ever seen around the ground.
Gameplan should be:
1. Hampson take the centre bounce
2. Run as fast as possible to the interchange.

 

[Hipster Doofus]

I hate to be a negative nancy but when Brown took that last mark, say it was Pettard infront of Brown instead of Grigg, do you think Petterd would've got in the road forced the ball out of bounds or taken a few steps to the side in fear like Grigg?

Grigg had 29 touches yes, but I noticed Arnott more who only had 13 touches.

I was an advocate of Grigg but now as I'm involved in the VFL team, seeing McDonough, Lennon, Helbig, McIntosh, Miles, Darrou etc, it pains me to know that these guy will provide just as much, if not more than Grigg while gathering less touches.

He needs to go. Houli is close to him as well, and Newman is past it too.

Batchelor, Lennon and Helbig are all kids who would hit the contest harder and provide run and spark, they should be the ones getting the games. We're not a flag threat this year, it makes ****ing sense to play these kids who might be there when we are.

 

[Madtiger2006]

Out: Grigg, Petterd, Thomas
In: Foley, McDonough, Deledio

Need to remove the players who just aren't afl standard because they will kill us against haw and geel

 

[Turka]

Hampson will have bruised fingers.
His tap work is sublime.
He's never done much around the ground, but who has?
Stays.

 

[mitch richmond]

Been loving bigfooty this past month. We're a game and % off top 4 without our best defender (injured), ruckman (injured), 2nd best player (injured) and chf from last year (form) and a bunch of people had a coronary. 2-3 when we're so down on form isn't the end of the world. Thank God these people aren't in charge. Someone want to go and loosen that noose that was popped around Graham Burge's neck the other day?

 

[Rodney Dangerfield]

He needs to go. Houli is close to him as well, and Newman is past it too.

Batchelor, Lennon and Helbig are all kids who would hit the contest harder and provide run and spark, they should be the ones getting the games. We're not a flag threat this year, it makes ******* sense to play these kids who might be there when we are.

Why?
For what reason?
How about they get a kick in the twos first?
It could be argued that Batchelor and Helbig are in fact - no good.

 

[Deanos]

Half way through the third quarter onwards, something just seemed to click and we finally started to overlap and move the ball on quickly. Hopefully we continue to play like that next week and for the rest of the season

Key points:

Structure was alot better: When Maric comes back, Hampson should go out

The foot skills of Ben Griffths are amazing for a big man.

Would like to see Nathan Gordon play one or two more games as sub before he gets a full game again. But he was excellent tonight.

Petterd had a great game tonight, that kick to thomas is what we want. (Shame thomas had a lack of awareness)

Don't like Martin playing as a forward for most of a game. Needs to play in the midfield alot more. Makes us a better side. I'm fine with him resting forward that's normal, not most of the game. Don't give me, he doesn't have the tank because he has had plenty of 30 odd disposal games.

 

[captain cotch 9]

Griffiths is a lot more effective when the ball hits the ground when rucking than Hampson

 

[Groupie_]

Rance and Lids back and I might start to believe again ....

Out: Thomas, Petterd, Grimes
In: Lids, Madonna, Rance

 

[Deanos]

Out: Newman, Grimes
In: Madonna, Rance?

I would like to add grigg but it wont happen.

These are the changes, I would like to see happen.