Oppo Camp Regular Non Eagles Discussion V2

[Chump Change]

Ahhh the old your either 100% in or your not in at all cry…… gambling isn’t actually a sin, greed is but not everyone gambles to accumulate vast wealth..

There's 2 issues here;

1. You can't use the Bible as a "reason" unless you use all of it. If you pick and choose which parts of the Bible you want to follow and which ones you don't, that's fine, you just can't use the "but the Bible says" as an excuse. If you're choosing which bits to follow and which not - these are decisions made independent of what the Bible says....

In this case, it's homophobia.

2. The general consensus is inclusion. The general consensus is homophobia is not ok. There may be an element of virtue signalling by the NRL, but that's to be expected. Manly have asked their players to wear a jumper that has some rainbow colours on it to show their support for inclusivity. I don't think it's much to ask, even if you disagree. For the sake of your team and team mates, you really do need to STFU and just play.

Asking players to bend a knee - this is political and clubs or codes should just not going there. Wearing a jumping for inclusivity - it's not political. Maybe virtue signalling, but it's not political.

 

[KERRPOW]

There wasnt this much furore when that female muslim GWS player sat out the pride round earlier this year.

 

[Seadog]

I might be wrong but wasn't the initial Olympics basically just a wank fest for the Roman emperor?

In any case sport has been political for a lot longer than the last few years. Hitler getting the Olympics to Berlin and Peter Norman on the podium for the Black Panther salute are two of many examples from yesteryear.

You'd be right if the Roman Emperor went back in time and ruled ancient Greece.

 

[Doashuey]

There wasnt this much furore when that female muslim GWS player sat out the pride round earlier this year.

Probably because it was 1 person. 7 from the same team is obviously a bigger deal.
The fact you recall it means there was some media focus on it but obviously for reason above, not as much.

 

[KERRPOW]

I guess the same muppets that are boycotting the game also refuse tongo outside at the fear of seeing a .

They should also refuse to take centrum when they get old.

Growing up in a religious family and having to attend church every sunday, and being involved as a youth i can say that the sense of belonging to something is great, the teachings are great too. But some use bits and pieces to justify shit things.

Its also a great place to fill your cup of judgemental gossip over a cup of coffee and a biccie.

 

[Goroyals22]

There's 2 issues here;

1. You can't use the Bible as a "reason" unless you use all of it. If you pick and choose which parts of the Bible you want to follow and which ones you don't, that's fine, you just can't use the "but the Bible says" as an excuse. If you're choosing which bits to follow and which not - these are decisions made independent of what the Bible says....

In this case, it's homophobia.

2. The general consensus is inclusion. The general consensus is homophobia is not ok. There may be an element of virtue signalling by the NRL, but that's to be expected. Manly have asked their players to wear a jumper that has some rainbow colours on it to show their support for inclusivity. I don't think it's much to ask, even if you disagree. For the sake of your team and team mates, you really do need to STFU and just play.

Asking players to bend a knee - this is political and clubs or codes should just not going there. Wearing a jumping for inclusivity - it's not political. Maybe virtue signalling, but it's not political.

On point 2.. are you therefore saying that their normal jumper is not inclusive? Or that their club is not inclusive…

People have different values and different ways of living their life… I work on the theory you believe what you want, ill believe what i want and if neither side push onto each other then thats all fine and dandy.. when a club then climbs in and says bang you are wearing this without consulting with anyone thats when it blows up.

 

[RookiePick]

Knock yourselves out friends.

 

[kane249]

I guess the same muppets that are boycotting the game also refuse tongo outside at the fear of seeing a .

They should also refuse to take centrum when they get old.

Growing up in a religious family and having to attend church every sunday, and being involved as a youth i can say that the sense of belonging to something is great, the teachings are great too. But some use bits and pieces to justify s**t things.

Its also a great place to fill your cup of judgemental gossip over a cup of coffee and a biccie.

Grew up in a religious house as well, parents and other relatives are still uber religious. Same as you i'm lapsed in that regard.

It's at the point where a second cousin of mine is in the closet, but can't publicly come out because of the judgement he will get. Everyone with a clue recognizes the situation and supports him for it/doesn't really care as long as he's happy, but it's due to those old archaic thinking he's afraid of being shunned if he comes out.

 

[Chump Change]

On point 2.. are you therefore saying that their normal jumper is not inclusive? Or that their club is not inclusive…

Nope. I'm not saying that. For whatever reason (a fair dose of virtue signalling I'd suggest), they've decided to make a point about inclusiveness.

People have different values and different ways of living their life… I work on the theory you believe what you want, ill believe what i want and if neither side push onto each other then thats all fine and dandy.. when a club then climbs in and says bang you are wearing this without consulting with anyone thats when it blows up.

Sure, everyone is free to have their beliefs. Whilst I don't agree, I accept that a small portion of society thinks like this and I'm ok with that.

But don't hide behind the Bible (because that isn't the reason)
And do the right thing by your team mates and STFU and get your head down.

 

[Biggie]

The discussion relating to Manly and the Pride Jumper - let’s make sure we don’t get caught in a shitstorm.

Please take it to PM or the SRP board

Cheers

 

[Cuzz09]

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[HoneyBadger35]

Ahhh the old your either 100% in or your not in at all cry…… gambling isn’t actually a sin, greed is but not everyone gambles to accumulate vast wealth..

Anyway probably best surmised by below

Mate they go in to training every day alongside a bloke who stabbed someone at a church. There’s been no boycott of him, there’s been no refusal to play for the club that employs such a person. Let’s not be naive about why they’re doing this. The defenders of religion don’t mind a church stabber but can’t stomach wearing a pride jumper. Embarrassing.

Anyway Biggie is correct and this is a SRP topic.

 

[kane249]

so... hows this weather

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I'm boycotting it

 

[DanWCE]

so... hows this weather

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Few showers. Big rainbow appearing

 

[Cuzz09]

Melbourne Storm players up in arms over latest weather reports

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[HoneyBadger35]

“And maybe the history of the game”.

Gee.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

He has been on that wagon for the past week on tv and radio. He cant get anyone to come along for the ride with him though.

I am with him, cannot for the life of me see how we got to the point where the bloke with the ball is now the reason for head high contact. Even when I type it or say it out loud I just giggle.

Tackle lower. The AFL are now saying evading a tackle is illegal. Can't shrug, can't sell the dummy as that is lowering your body, can't bend your knees etc etc. Just stand up straight and let the tackler tackle you.

This is going to be a disaster for the AFL, head high contact was already rife in the game and now it will be worse and no longer a penalty. Just insanity.

 

[Keys]

“And maybe the history of the game”.

Gee.

Maynard was blocked…..

 

[VicBased]

I am with him, cannot for the life of me see how we got to the point where the bloke with the ball is now the reason for head high contact. Even when I type it or say it out loud I just giggle.

Tackle lower. The AFL are now saying evading a tackle is illegal. Can't shrug, can't sell the dummy as that is lowering your body, can't bend your knees etc etc. Just stand up straight and let the tackler tackle you.

This is going to be a disaster for the AFL, head high contact was already rife in the game and now it will be worse and no longer a penalty. Just insanity.

I can sort of see it though. If they persist in lifting the arm to get a head high tackle and dropping at the same time it will one day lead to injury. The neck, as we know is a very vulnerable area, as is the eyes and a gouge could easily happen.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

I can sort of see it though. If they persist in lifting the arm to get a head high tackle and dropping at the same time it will one day lead to injury. The neck, as we know is a very vulnerable area, as is the eyes and a gouge could easily happen.

Nothing has changed in 100 years, all these movements have been happening for ever. The arm lift only works when the tackle is weak. Selwood gets tackled 20 times per game, only two of those he can raise and gets a free kick for. Guess what people concentrate on? What about the other strong 18 tackles that he couldn't raise? It's such a modern thing to concentrate on the minority instead of the majority. It is rewarding the weak tackler.
Like I said it is now illegal to evade a tackle. Think about that.

The AFL have not done this to protect the head, they have done it give the tackler a free ride and not have to be accountable. There will be more head high contact with no free kicks than ever now. How is that protecting the head.

If the tacklers dropped 30cm then none of this would be an issue. Common sense again not prevailing.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Like I said it is now illegal to evade a tackle. Think about that.

No it’s not. You can still try to evade the tackle by going low and trying to shrug it. You just won’t get a free for head high contact.

If it stops players trying to use their head and neck to win frees then great.

 

[KERRPOW]

The AFL have not done this to protect the head, they have done it give the tackler a free ride and not have to be accountable. There will be more head high contact with no free kicks than ever now. How is that protecting the head.

If the tacklers dropped 30cm then none of this would be an issue. Common sense again not prevailing.

Nah its to stop players like ginnivan playing for free kicks. His first instinct is to drop the knees and play for the free.

This shi-te is stemming to juniors where they are doing it. The AFL wants to stamp that out.

Its no different to players ducking and being called play on for mine. They can still shrug as a form of evasion, but then need to play on...not sit there like a stunned mullet expecting the free.

 

[Ochre]

Wayne Harmes keeping it in
Maynard block
Ginnivan non call

Manly players are boycotting a pride jumper, when actually God hates Collingwood

 

[VicBased]

Nothing has changed in 100 years, all these movements have been happening for ever. The arm lift only works when the tackle is weak. Selwood gets tackled 20 times per game, only two of those he can raise and gets a free kick for. Guess what people concentrate on? What about the other strong 18 tackles that he couldn't raise? It's such a modern thing to concentrate on the minority instead of the majority. It is rewarding the weak tackler.
Like I said it is now illegal to evade a tackle. Think about that.

The AFL have not done this to protect the head, they have done it give the tackler a free ride and not have to be accountable. There will be more head high contact with no free kicks than ever now. How is that protecting the head.

If the tacklers dropped 30cm then none of this would be an issue. Common sense again not prevailing.

I am not disagreeing with you, just adding what i think they are looking at. I agree that the tackle should be better applied.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

No it’s not. You can still try to evade the tackle by going low and trying to shrug it. You just won’t get a free for head high contact.

If it stops players trying to use their head and neck to win frees then great.

Why doesn't the tackler have to adjust and go lower? I know if I am trying to tackle that the player can try and evade me. My eyes are on his hips. The problem is AFL players have their eyes on the chest and shoulders as the tackling point and which has led us to this point.

Could not disagree with you more. I have the ball and I should be able to do as I please. Don't get me high. It's so bloody simple and yet again the AFL have now made it complicated. Watch the head high tackles become common place in the game.