Society/Culture Reproductive Rights: Roe vs Wade, abortion, etc

[Chief]

your ignoring all the evidence that controlling women is never mentioned amongst anti abortion supporters.

So if I steal your money but never mention it - "dude I just want to buy a car" - it's not theft?

No, religion is not 100% common amongst forced birthers. It's most of it, true.

Now, what do these cults do? They use religious doctrine - man is head of the house and rules over the woman.

The meninists mainly use "science" to show men should be held up as superior and call the shots. Their warped little version of evolutionary biology. Like the bigots do to show white people are superior.

 

[ElectricG]

So if I steal your money but never mention it - "dude I just want to buy a car" - it's not theft?

No, religion is not 100% common amongst forced birthers. It's most of it, true.

Now, what do these cults do? They use religious doctrine - man is head of the house and rules over the woman.

The meninists mainly use "science" to show men should be held up as superior and call the shots. Their warped little version of evolutionary biology. Like the bigots do to show white people are superior.

Are there meninists in the room right now, chief?

 

[Chief]

Are there meninists in the room right now, chief?

Are you?

 

[Cooldude]

I forgot how many of these "pro-life" goons get hard on the death penalty

 

[Gralin]

I forgot how many of these "pro-life" goons get hard on the death penalty

I mean yeah they've been killing people that are on the pro choice side for decades of course they're into the death penalty, it's only unborn lives that are sacred

 

[Crankyhawk]

What evidence?

your ignoring all the evidence that controlling women is never mentioned amongst anti abortion supporters. At all. its always about protecting a false definition of life defined by religions. Your ignoring the fact an awful lot of anti abortionists are women.

the one common trait that defines anti abortion views is not sex. Its religion.

There is some correlation between religious views and the control of women though (Sharia law as one example, or a lot of old testament type references)

 

[the_interloper]

There is some correlation between religious views and the control of women though (Sharia law as one example, or a lot of old testament type references)

I think a lot of it overall is about trying to impel the traditional family structure upon people, which results in views about abortion, same sex marriage etc etc that are out of step with the majority's views.

 

[radiojake]

Booked on to get the snip in a couple weeks
Not that we really have to worry about this shit in Australia (well, not yet anyway) it just really puts to bed any worries for me in the future

Child Free for Eternity

 

[Chief]

Mercans and their weirdy weird crud.

 

[Toump Ass]

I was pretty worried about travelling through the US; I assumed being a “sand ******” I’d be cavity searched and interrogated at every stop. Had one hairy run-in with border security which could have ended worse, but otherwise dealing with airports and border security was completely unremarkable. Conversely, travelling into Australia has been demeaning many times. I've never felt like I was being treated like a criminal in the US (or any other country), but it's been a somewhat regular occurrence returning here, admittedly more so when I was younger. Not just airports either, but that's for another thread.

The political system in the US has been f'd for many years, I don't know why it would stop people travelling there now. I'd much rather visit now all the Trump loons have lost their voice.

 

[the_interloper]

I was pretty worried about travelling through the US; I assumed being a “sand fellow” I’d be cavity searched and interrogated at every stop. Had one hairy run-in with border security which could have ended worse, but otherwise dealing with airports and border security was completely unremarkable. Conversely, travelling into Australia has been demeaning many times. I've never felt like I was being treated like a criminal in the US (or any other country), but it's been a somewhat regular occurrence returning here, admittedly more so when I was younger. Not just airports either, but that's for another thread.

The political system in the US has been f'd for many years, I don't know why it would stop people travelling there now. I'd much rather visit now all the Trump loons have lost their voice.

Yeah I remember thinking going to the US it would a bit more intense at the border, the bloke who took my entry card etc was nearly asleep, slumped in a chair giving no ****s.

I have had a few headstrong customs officers heading back into Oz, really making a point about the power they had "no you need to be in that line, 2 metres back, have the cards in this order, blah blah blah"

Entering China they fired off quite a few questions at me, I was travelling with a whole bunch of Taiwanese, not sure if that was the issue.

 

[Gough]

Yeah I remember thinking going to the US it would a bit more intense at the border, the bloke who took my entry card etc was nearly asleep, slumped in a chair giving no *s.

I have had a few headstrong customs officers heading back into Oz, really making a point about the power they had "no you need to be in that line, 2 metres back, have the cards in this order, blah blah blah"

Entering China they fired off quite a few questions at me, I was travelling with a whole bunch of Taiwanese, not sure if that was the issue.

South Africa in the old days was the worst. Being a customs officer back then must have been a role reserved for the dumb white guys no discernible social skills.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

I was pretty worried about travelling through the US; I assumed being a “sand fellow” I’d be cavity searched and interrogated at every stop. Had one hairy run-in with border security which could have ended worse, but otherwise dealing with airports and border security was completely unremarkable. Conversely, travelling into Australia has been demeaning many times. I've never felt like I was being treated like a criminal in the US (or any other country), but it's been a somewhat regular occurrence returning here, admittedly more so when I was younger. Not just airports either, but that's for another thread.

The political system in the US has been f'd for many years, I don't know why it would stop people travelling there now. I'd much rather visit now all the Trump loons have lost their voice.

Nah mate, my redneck aunt assures me that us Aussies aren't racist.

She still calls First Nations people "shinys" FFS.

 

[Gralin]

I have had worse experiences with UK, US, Aus and NZ border forces than China, Thailand, Taiwan, or Japan.

The recent articles about Australian's experiencing issues with US border forces have had a pretty consistent theme in our media.

Look at how they treated this white Aussie

 

[the_interloper]

Nah mate, my redneck aunt assures me that us Aussies aren't racist.

She still calls First Nations people "shinys" FFS.

"Shinys" that's a new one on me, and I consider myself an expert on racial slurs.

 

[Gough]

"Shinys" that's a new one on me, and I consider myself an expert on racial slurs.

One of my cousins is an 85 year old Argentine born Zimbabwean farmer, he would school you and he means it. I've rarely met a more objectionable man.

 

[Chief]

I've never felt like I was being treated like a criminal in the US

Try travelling on a domestic flight with sealed UHT milk for your toddler. Then they detain you and threaten full searches for you and your young children.

 

[faible]

and your young children.

Must be Christians.

 

[the_interloper]

Try travelling on a domestic flight with sealed UHT milk for your toddler. Then they detain you and threaten full searches for you and your young children.

A former Russian work colleague got detained in the US for 4 hours only because he'd been to Iran recently.

This guy was very high up in my old (global) company, for most this would be intimidating, this bloke was a really hard campaigner though and I don't think it bothered him one bit.

 

[Pessimistic]

I have had worse experiences with UK, US, Aus and NZ border forces than China, Thailand, Taiwan, or Japan.

The recent articles about Australian's experiencing issues with US border forces have had a pretty consistent theme in our media.

Look at how they treated this white Aussie

Our whole ship got arrested in Syria.. but I think it was a graft thing, but we had no cash whatsoever

 

[Gough]

A pre 94 South African stamp in your passport used to get you a second look in Scandinavian countries.

 

[Pessimistic]

So if god can forgive repentant sinners who abort, why can’t Christians?

 

[Chief]

Every time I see stats on people who support bans, it's 2 or 3 people in 10 who support them. And voting intentions have been changing as people are stirred to do something about it.

Just saw a toob video from a radical leftist that pointed out that voting intentions - Democrats who intended to actually show up and vote - over there changed from 30% to 70%.

27% had abortion rights as their top concern, compared to 9% who had inflation at the top, and 13% "the economy".

The forced birth movement is going to be put back in its box. A rare positive and a good sign for other countries, given the US can often infect the world with their worst trends.

 

[Festerz]

The forced birth movement is going to be put back in its box. A rare positive and a good sign for other countries, given the US can often infect the world with their worst trends.

The referendum results in Republican stronghold, Kansas are amazing - voting AGAINST an abortion ban in the first US referendum since the US Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade.

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A decisive vote to defend abortion rights in deeply conservative Kansas reverberated across the midterm campaign landscape on Wednesday, galvanizing Democrats and underscoring for Republicans the risks of overreaching on one of the most emotionally charged matters in American politics.

In a state where Republicans far outnumber Democrats, Kansans delivered a clear message in the first major vote testing the potency of abortion politics since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade: Abortion opponents are going too far.

The overwhelming defeat of a measure that would have removed abortion protections from the state constitution quickly emboldened Democrats to run more assertively on abortion rights and even to reclaim some of the language long deployed by conservatives against government overreach, using it to cast abortion bans as infringing on personal freedoms. (As of Wednesday, the margin was 58.8 percent to 41.2 percent.)

“The court practically dared women in this country to go to the ballot box to restore the right to choose,” President Biden said by video Wednesday, as he signed an executive order aimed at helping Americans cross state lines for abortions. “They don’t have a clue about the power of American women.”

WE THE PEOPLE!

 

[Chief]

Well, them the people. I live over here.