Autopsy Review: 2024 QF v. Geelong

[Holden Hillbilly]

Kane Cornes said there were “probably 10 players’’ who let the side down, naming Jase Burgoyne, Lachie Jones, Esava Ratugolea

27

Esava Ratugolea

Age

26

Ht

197cm

Wt

108kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.6

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

2.2

4star

MG

131.6

2star

D

8.1

2star

K

4.3

2star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.5

3star

MG

109.0

2star

D

9.2

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

133.8

3star

, Charlie Dixon

22

Charlie Dixon

Age

34

Ht

200cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.7

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.6

5star

D

10.5

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

3.5

2star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

G

2.5

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

, Jed McEntee, Francis Evans and captain Connor Rozee

1

Connor Rozee

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

CL

1.0

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

1.6

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

0.8

3star

.
“You can’t have that from Connor Rozee

1

Connor Rozee

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

79kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.6

5star

CL

1.0

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.3

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

1.6

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

0.8

3star

last night. You’re the captain of the footy club. He’s had a disappointing year, Rozee.’

 

[pastmyprimus]

According to Kane it’s all Ken when we win and it’s the players when we lose

 

[bow and arrow]

Yeah its not just me, it's the guys I hire and lead too.

As if that is some kind of defence.

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I assume that since they're 'all in it together', they're also on the same salary as Ken, or does he share his pay with all his assistants!

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[Doctor Feel]

The ball bouncing off Jones head into the hands of a geelong player summed up our finals performances under Hinkley

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Kane Cornes said there were “probably 10 players’’ who let the side down, naming Jase Burgoyne, Lachie Jones, Esava Ratugolea, Charlie Dixon, Jed McEntee, Francis Evans and captain Connor Rozee.
“You can’t have that from Connor Rozee last night. You’re the captain of the footy club. He’s had a disappointing year, Rozee.’

And we would have won if not for you meddling kids

 

[Willsy10]

I'm really torn. Last night was the first time I've ever left a final early. I've also never missed a final I could attend, but this week might just be time.

I left just thinking what is the point. It's the same story we've seen for years, we aren't actually a threat in any way, shape, or form, it's literally just a waste of time and money, but even worse it is emotionally draining and embarrassing. I don't know how you bring yourself to continue to subject yourself to that, with a club that refuses to make any change. The club doesn't deserve us attending, despite our loyalty and passion for the club, at some point it has to come down to giving them what they deserve until they start taking risks and being a brave club again.

If i lived in Adelaide i would probably go, i'm going to get just as frustrated watching at the TV at home i may as well be there letting it all out rather than waking the kids.

But i'm not driving 3 hours and taking time off work for this shit show.

I've now left during the 3rd quarter twice this year, not even the last the bloody 3rd quarter it has been evident there is going to be absolutely no fight at all in this team so why should we stay to watch.

 

[Dazalinko1988]

Jones has been a massive disappointment since he was drafted absolute dud should of let him go to Collingwood when they bid on him offers nothing just a jasper pittard

17

Jasper Pittard

Age

33

Ht

186cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.8

4star

K

11.7

4star

HB

6.1

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

388.2

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

9.9

4star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

310.9

4star

D

19.6

5star

K

14.6

5star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.2

4star

with a mullet

 

[TeeKray]

Who cares about individual players, it goes well beyond that at this point. 21 of the 23 players from last night's game were in the team when we beat Sydney by 112 points only a month ago. You have to look at the real issue which is the cultural failings that lead to an inability to perform under pressure. I've been saying it for years - until this is addressed, it won't matter who is playing or who is coaching, nothing will change.

 

[Doctor Feel]

That was the feeling I got straight after half time, sort of a resignation by Ken that strategically this game was gone so they pulled the plug.

Either that or there were some big bets going on behind the scenes. Game felt like it was thrown.

You could feel every single bit of oxygen get sucked out of the stadium as soon as Butters was putting on the vest after half time. We 100% packed it in.

 

[FishingRick04]

Isn’t in interesting when we won 13’in a row everyone wanted Rozee moved full time into the middle.

Now we want him out of the middle!!!

 

[Jojay]

 

[Rash]

 

[Doctor Feel]

This guy is on another plane of existance

 

[yepits2020]

Ratugolea, Francis Evans, McEntee, Narkle and Dixon had a goal and 25 possies between them.

Only the person who scored the goal plays next week, although Narkle is not really a forward.

 

[theouthouse]

Only the person who scored the goal plays next week, although Narkle is not really a forward.

Why not swing Narkle through the middle/wing and Rozee off half back, DBJ forward.

 

[Janey]

As a lifelong member I feel compelled to go, I feel that duty to attend and support my team. However how the **** do they expect us to continue to support when they let this continue to happen year after year. At some stage you've gotta say enough is enough. I'm going to stay home, save myself $200 and just watch a rerun of the '04 GF to retain my sanity. I wish the club could forfeit and just remove all doubt.

Good post, that’s exactly how I feel atm.

 

[jackag24]

Saw the vision before the game cats were jumpin around havin a good time pregame meanwhile hinkley stairing everyone down like the sith lord he is and who woulda guessed drew shits himself first possy go figure. I reckon finals arent scary but kern does his mental ****ery to instill this belief into our club. I mean which kind of ****head thinks its a good idea to surprise his own team and sub his star player. Was always going to deflate the team why wouldnt you just tell them straight up

Yeah i also noticed this.

Something about Geelong dancing around the rooms and clapping absolutely scared the fk out of me. It was a bad omen.

Stinkley must get them wound up so tight that the nerves literally take over control of their limbic systems, and by the time the ball gets bounced they are already exhausted.

Meanwhile Geelong.. well what more needs to be said

 

[I Dont Care]

Geelong players never kept still for the whole four quarters. They really wanted this and we didn't

 

[Windy Cindy]

The worst part is, this is so true that it's also the kind of loss that results because the club still hasn't recovered from a horrible prelim loss 3 years ago.

We are still recovering from 2007

 

[Windy Cindy]

That's heartbreaking. Two guys as Port Adelaide as Port Adelaide gets. Imagine how that defeat has rippled through the old players.

These are the blokes that need to get their voice heard and make change.

Missed Timmy g did he have a crack or was he as weak as piss as usual

We need him to let rip like Rowe did. Make some ****ing noise

 

[Windy Cindy]

Ratugolea, Francis Evans, McEntee, Narkle and Dixon had a goal and 25 possies between them.

3 rejects, one who can’t play and one who can’t move

 

[agmsy]

Who cares about individual players, it goes well beyond that at this point.

I was thinking about players today. Rather than looking at who was here for the Sydney win, I looked at who was here for each of our previous finals losses under Hinkley. It might not be perfect, but this is what I came up with.

2013 SF: 2 players (Boak, Wines)
2014 PF: 2 players (Boak, Wines)
2017 EF: 4 players (Boak, Byrne-Jones, Dixon, Wines)
2020 PF: 7 players (Boak, Burton, Butters, Byrne-Jones, Dixon, Rozee, Wines)
2021 PF: 10 players (Aliir, Bergman, Boak, Burton, Butters, Byrne-Jones, Dixon, Drew, Rozee, Wines)
2023 QF: 13 players (Aliir, Bergman, Boak, Burton, Butters, Byrne-Jones, Drew, Horne-Francis, Jones, McEntee, Rioli, Rozee, Wines)
2023 SF: 14 players (Aliir, Bergman, Boak, Burton, Butters, Byrne-Jones, Dixon, Drew, Horne-Francis, Jones, McEntee, Rioli, Rozee, Wines)

Despite an ever-changing cast of characters, we always find a way to lose.

Some of those changes are forced. If they were fit or available, it's easy to imagine the likes of Farrell, Houston, SPP, and even Finlayson playing last night. Big deal. The season is a game of attrition. Teams can't expect to make it through unscathed, with their best 23 in tact from round 1 to grand final day. It's easy to imagine those players playing, but it's almost impossible to imagine them changing the result.

It's not just the players. It's not remotely credible that, over more than a decade, we've consistently failed to recruit enough players with the required talent and temperament. No serious club running a serious football program would allow that problem to persist without making changes in (at least!) list management and recruitment.

It's the coach, the chairman, and the culture.

 

[Windy Cindy]

Who cares about individual players, it goes well beyond that at this point. 21 of the 23 players from last night's game were in the team when we beat Sydney by 112 points only a month ago. You have to look at the real issue which is the cultural failings that lead to an inability to perform under pressure. I've been saying it for years - until this is addressed, it won't matter who is playing or who is coaching, nothing will change.

I agree in part, but you get a strong coach and that can change very quickly.

Recruit a hardened experienced player.. eg callum ward.. a standard setter someone who won’t stand for soft rubbish..

Love to see Selwood or hodge involved some how.. we need toughness and people who have done it before.

We need a coaching staff full of quality not cheap shit

 

[yepits2020]

Why not swing Narkle through the middle/wing and Rozee off half back, DBJ forward.

Rozee going back is feasible. Narkle isn’t too bad in a wing, put Boak more in the middle maybe. DBJ needs to go back forward. His first kick from the backlines last night magnified what he is no longer in the back line. Only one of McEntee or Evans.

 

[Peninsula Boy]

I don't think moving the magnets around is going to help too much next week.

The magnets, for some reason, have lost their electromagnetic charge when you need it the most.