News Review into racism at Collingwood

[NoobPie]

Pretty much. Government departments are notoriously slow to release these types of reviews. Big business not too much better.

That's right, which is the point really.

People might want to live in a world with a far greater level of transparency in governance and that's fair enough.....but claiming some outrage has occurred because Collingwood haven't immediately released the report is absurd

 

[jmac70]

Just thinking, how many clubs have had an Aboriginal captain?
Collingwood: Mark Williams
Geelong: Polly Farmer
GC: Stephen May (co-captain)
Were Gavin Wanganeen, Michael Long, Andrew McLeod captains?

Adam Goodes.

 

[NoobPie]

Let’s be really clear here, the club did not release the report.

Sorry, what are you trying to make clear?

Everyone knows the report was leaked. It's not clear to me by whom but maybe you know?

 

[jmac70]

That's right, which is the point really.

People might want to live in a world with a far greater level of transparency in governance and that's fair enough.....but claiming some outrage has occurred because Collingwood haven't immediately released the report is absurd

Collingwood still haven’t released the report.

 

[jackcass]

You can’t possibly justify the circumstances around the release of the report.

I'm saying it's not uncommon for the release of these types of reports to be delayed. You disagree, that's fine, I'm happy for you to be wrong.

 

[jmac70]

Sorry, what are you trying to make clear?

Everyone knows the report was leaked. It's not clear to me by whom but maybe you know?

A finding of this importance should have been released by the club. Not leaked to the media without comment. It’s a disgrace.

 

[Apples]

Let’s be really clear here, the club did not release the report.

You sound angry this morning JMac70, but it seems pretty obvious the Board would have planned on releasing this report at the AGM this week. I stand to be corrected on this, but it's a reasonable assumption.

The fact that it was leaked to the odious Murdoch papers should surprise nobody.

 

[Len Smith Medallist]

Media be loving this.

Won't Read Newspaper,Watch News. Just Ignore all Media Outlets

Come on Dave! Framing this as a media issue, rather than a shameful part of the club we love and that needs to change, is a cop out. Not the time to switch off but to throw your influence into a better future.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Does it? I didn't think it focussed on a specific time period? Although a lack of corrective action during the last few years is an indictment on the board.

I don't think it focused on the last few years at all. In fact, as highlighted in the above excerpt, the report is very positive about the clubs initiatives in the last few years.

 

[Mkcaptain]

A finding of this importance should have been released by the club. Not leaked to the media without comment. It’s a disgrace.

Completely understand the anger. But I myself would prefer the club spend a month or two preparing their response to the findings and their implementation plan, to release alongside the report which I assume was the plan.

 

[NoobPie]

Collingwood still haven’t released the report.

Sorry if I missed people saying they had

I think the issue is why it was so outrageous they hadn't already done so.

They commissioned an independent report (which itself acknowledged was a brave act) that was quite damning and they hadn't yet publicly released it, most likely waiting to do so when they've got their ducks lined up in terms of response.

 

[Antz]

Does it? I didn't think it focussed on a specific time period? Although a lack of corrective action during the last few years is an indictment on the board.

You really are nitpicking. Maybe I should have said over the last decade or over the years or during Eddies reign?

 

[TradeDraft]

 

[gouki88]

Imagine my shock that an organisation led by Eddie McGuire, the same bloke who enabled Sam Newman to be a total f-wit for years, has overseen a problematic culture and shown more concern with image than with action.

Doesn't make it any more palatable though. Most, if not all Pies fans I've encountered could see this coming, so hopefully we can all take a moment to reflect and work collectively to change this aspect of our club. Hopefully Eddie and his lackeys are quickly shown the door.

 

[gouki88]

This is a garbage tweet

 

[jmac70]

Completely understand the anger. But I myself would prefer the club spend a month or two preparing their response to the findings and their implementation plan, to release alongside the report which I assume was the plan.

Yet again we’ve been embarrassed in the media. We’ve had this report for a month and should have been in the front foot. It demonstrates again the incompetence of the board.

 

[NoobPie]

A finding of this importance should have been released by the club. Not leaked to the media without comment. It’s a disgrace.

What's a disgrace though?

It seems dissapointing that someone would leak it ahead of the club releasing it but I wouldn't call it a disgrace

 

[Len Smith Medallist]

That's right, which is the point really.

People might want to live in a world with a far greater level of transparency in governance and that's fair enough.....but claiming some outrage has occurred because Collingwood haven't immediately released the report is absurd

Maybe outrage is hypocritical but the strategy has backfired with the leak of the report. Even those responsible for delaying the release will now be kicking themselves so any defence of the strategy here is farcical.

 

[jmac70]

What's a disgrace though?

It seems dissapointing that someone would leak it ahead of the club releasing it but I wouldn't call it a disgrace

It’s a bit more than disappointing.

 

[Mkcaptain]

You really are nitpicking. Maybe I should have said over the last decade or over the years or during Eddies reign?

I don't think its nitpicking when the last few years would directly implicate all of the current administration including Mark Anderson, Paul Licuria, Peter Murphy and Jodie Sizer

 

[jackcass]

Guess Massive Changes are Needed at the Club

Massive change is needed in society as a whole Dave.

 

[NoobPie]

Maybe outrage is hypocritical but the strategy has backfired with the leak of the report. Even those responsible for delaying the release will now be kicking themselves so any defence of the strategy here is farcical.

I agree with that.

The fact it has been leaked ahead of the club releasing it is a disappointing outcome.

More than anything (assuming it was released by someone inside the club) it suggests the "strategy" wasn't universally supported

 

[Apples]

Maybe outrage is hypocritical but the strategy has backfired with the leak of the report. Even those responsible for delaying the release will now be kicking themselves so any defence of the strategy here is farcical.

I disagree. It's not farcical to take a month over Christmas to digest the report, draw up a strategy and plan on a release date. Come on people, it does seem obvious the Club was waiting for the AGM. Sensible in my opinion.

Can we ramp down the outrage and wait for the Club's response today?

 

[Antz]

I don't think its nitpicking when the last few years would directly implicate all of the current administration including Mark Anderson, Paul Licuria, Peter Murphy and Jodie Sizer

You're right. Badly worded by me

 

[Scodog10]

Could we please leave random Twitter posts spouting absolute garbage out of this thread?

jmac70 I understand your passion on the topic the club absolutely deserves our ire, however there’s a league wide standown of personnel from roughly December 20 to the first week of January. In the roughly 20 working days they’ve had to digest the report I expect the club has been working on a thorough response that was due to be tabled at the AGM.

Should they have acknowledged the report had come through on December 18th? Absolutely, but given the severity of the report it’s acceptable to withold a thorough response until the AGM, IMO. If nothing comes from the AGM though then the club will deserve everything that’s coming there way because this has set the agenda.