AFLW Richmond v Melbourne Friday 14 January, 7.10pm Swinburne Centre

[Stan Judkins]

D’Arcy and kelly are setbacks , the others at this stage we should be able to cover.

D'arcy is a massive out - easily out best back last week with great blocks, good at punching over the top and some great intercepts. We can cover the other outs - but this one I'm not so sure. I am worried for tomorrow night now, and I wasn't until I read this out!

Maddie Shevlin 6 kicks, 231 metres gained, might be a bit more of a loss than we give her credit, only Conti, Brennan & Lavey more metres gained

 

[Stan Judkins]

Paxman might be sore - can I say I hope so in a nice way! Gay was busy, they'll miss her, Sherriff looked dangerous at various stages as well as kicking the first goal and had 4 fierce tackles, while Sarah Lampard they will certainly miss:


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yes and we lost



seems like they lost a hell of a lot more than we did
Pearce their ruck is gonna give us some trouble
we'll be right, should still be a close game

 

[Phar Ace]

Maddie Shevlin 6 kicks, 231 metres gained, might be a bit more of a loss than we give her credit, only Conti, Brennan & Lavey more metres gained

It was a nice first game for the Tiges, and she certainly knows how to hoof it, but there are Metres Gained and then there are Metres Gained from which you get an advantage. Think we will both agree that to be missing D'arcy and Shevlin will be hard to cover with the ins we have. That said, they'll be in there pitching and trying to be one out - one in!

 

[Phar Ace]

yes and we lost

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seems like they lost a hell of a lot more than we did
Pearce their ruck is gonna give us some trouble
we'll be right, should still be a close game

Are you surprised with Yassir and Stahl out we didn't try and go with a Sophie Locke?

 

[Stan Judkins]

Are you surprised with Yassir and Stahl out we didn't go with Sophie Locke?

come to think of it, yeah i am surprised, Locke would've been a good inclusion
wonder why they didn't?
maybe injured?
picked Akayla Peterson (Blues VFLW) as Emergency, so not sure if she's training with us ATM

 

[terrybull]

Found this.

From the Archives, 1949: Spectator crush endangers large VFL crowd


First published in The Age on June 14, 1949

Football Ground Crush Endangers Big Crowd

A crowd of more than 46,000 at the Richmond-Carlton football match yesterday burst through the picket fence and spread around the playing area of the Richmond ground, which is designed to hold no more than 40,000. Melbourne Cricket Ground, which will hold more than 90,000, was vacant for the day.

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The crowd at the 1949 King's birthday match.

The holiday good humor of the vast crowd, packed into the Richmond ground averted a situation in which many people must have suffered serious injury.

Turnstile attendance figures were 46,000, but several thousand more came in when the gates were opened, and many more were turned away.
One girl was injured, and many other people were crushed in a stampede to get into the outer ground when the gates opened.
The girl injured was Lorna Powell, 16, of Jessie-street Richmond. She was taken to St. Vincent’s Hospital and treated for an injured leg.
Long before the match began, long queues and packed trains and trams showed that the crowd would be beyond the capacity of the ground.
Twenty minutes before the game commenced, the huge crowd surged over a broken fence into the playing area.

About 2 p.m., the turnstiles were closed, but almost immediately Health Commission officials ordered all gates to be thrown open.

There seemed just as many people anxious to leave the packed embankments as there were still attempting to gain entry. The gates appeared likely to collapse.

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Police help a woman over the boundary fence as the crowd surges forward.

Gates Rushed
When the gates were opened thousands of people poured through them and struggled for places in the already crowded grounds.

Danger first threatened near the Punt-road goals before the players appeared on the field.
The packed crowd made a series of dangerous surges down the steep embankment and the fence bulged several times before a gateway finally burst open.
Police and ambulance men rushed to the spot, and stretchers were used to carry injured and shocked spectators to the cricket club stand.
Most people who had got over the fence or through the gap showed no inclination to rush other reserves, but police took matters into their own hands, and directed many of them to the cricket club enclosure.
All through the first half of the game this point, and later on, the front of the football club reserve further around represented possible danger.

As the crush increased, the crowd on the area became greater, but it spread out around the boundary, and at no time interfered with play.

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The crowd surges dangerously towards the boundary fence.


Many Collapse
Ambulance men later reported it was one of their worst days at any football game.
More than 43 people were carried to the ambulance room, most of them on stretchers. In addition 20 others were treated on the edge of the ground.

Ambulance Officer, W. McKean, of the St. John’s Ambulance, said he had 12 ambulance men, six cadets and one nurse fully occupied. He commented on the few cases of hysteria, something he was most frightened of when the crush was at its worst.
There were many other danger points around and outside the ground during the afternoon.
A bar building at the Richmond end must have had 200 on its roof all the afternoon but it stood up to the strain.
Every tree and vantage point outside the ground was filled to overflowing.
Several small boys made their month’s pocket money in a few minutes by carrying ladders around outside the ground and charging customers who wanted tree-top perches.

As the final siren sounded thousands of people rushed the playing arena, the police giving up the hopeless task of holding them back.
There were no unpleasant episodes, the crowd retaining its great humor all day. Umpire Merrington got a great reception as he left the ground.
Spectators severely criticized the Victorian Football League for not having arranged a better draw for the King’s Birthday holiday. The general feeling was that such a star game, which always draws a big crowd when the “Tigers” meet the Dark Blues, should have been staged at the Carlton ground which can accommodate a big holiday crowd. The Richmond ground, because of its restricted accommodation, was a poor choice for such a game on such a day. Alternatively, as the teams meet only once this season, the game should have been played on the Melbourne Cricket Ground – a neutral arena.
Yesterday confusion was not confined to the playing arena. The Melbourne City Council had made few arrangements to park thousands of cars which had filled the park round the Richmond ground as far west as the M.C.G.
At the lower entrance, where there was much congestion, only one officer was on duty to collect parking fees. A second entry into the park was blocked by a chain.

Traffic conditions were chaotic outside the ground and along adjacent street for more than an hour after the game ended. There seemed to be too few trams to take the huge crowd away.

Fatal Collapse
Frederick Charles Harrison, 62 years, Maude-street, North Balwyn, collapsed and died in the Carlton dressing room after the match

I remember my next door neighbor telling she was at this game. I think she was around 60-70 years old in 1980.

She was such a great character telling stories of yesteryears…and had all the Tigers Premiership posters on display in the front window.

Her husband was a bit of a bore and a Collingwood fan.He could not really ever be happy when Magpies and Tigers met. If the Tigers won she would belittle him. If the Magpies won there be no food on the table that night!

 

[TigermanM2]

Are you surprised with Yassir and Stahl out we didn't try and go with a Sophie Locke?

come to think of it, yeah i am surprised, Locke would've been a good inclusion
wonder why they didn't?
maybe injured?
picked Akayla Peterson (Blues VFLW) as Emergency, so not sure if she's training with us ATM

Probably "AFL Health and Safety Protocols" injured.

 

[TigermanM2]

It was a nice first game for the Tiges, and she certainly knows how to hoof it, but there are Metres Gained and then there are Metres Gained from which you get an advantage. Think we will both agree that to be missing D'arcy and Shevlin will be hard to cover with the ins we have. That said, they'll be in there pitching and trying to be one out - one in!

D'Arcy's loss is massive. Has been fantastic from game one.

Most of the girls took some time to build into the game last week but her and Mon Conti were brilliant from the opening siren. Might have been a few more goals down at quarter time without her.

 

[RunningBounce]

Can't wait for this one.

Not sure if Melb are THE yardstick, but they're a top 4 team pretty comfortably. The way they stayed composed and played the game their way with the Bulldogs (and Blackburn and Lamb particularly) throwing the kitchen sink at every loose ball impressed me. How good's Zanker? Rapidly becoming my favourite non-Tiger to watch.

Five changes doesn't help us. Poppy out sucks. But I did want to see more run from the backline, and McClelland (and to a lesser extent) Sansonetti can give that. The midfield is reasonably stable. Bloody love watching the Hoskings smash in.

Bit of a fire vs ice kinda game. Handball and run vs kick and mark. Always interesting to watch different game styles, but I suspect the quality at the coalface will be the difference. I give us a chance, but not expecting a win. A lot will come down to winning the ball enough to give Wakefield a chance.

Not many chances left to watch footy at Punt Rd with the Jack Dyer Stand still there, too.

 

[RunningBounce]

“So, I think that’s definitely a focus for us - to use the open side of the ground or use the corridor.​

“The whole purpose for us is to try and get deep entries inside fifty and then that way we’re a better chance of kicking a goal."​

Interesting. I'll be watching for our ability to pinch that switch kick. Our men's team built 3 premierships around doing that.

 

[TigermanM2]

Full AFLW R2 preview: A big test for Tigers, Whitten Oval's WA double-header
Gemma Bastiani

Richmond v Melbourne at the Swinburne Centre, 7.10pm AEDT

• The Tigers unveiled improved skills across the ground as they moved the ball through the congestion with ease against St Kilda. Taking charge of the midfield battle after the first quarter, Richmond controlled possession and was able to regularly hit up key marking forwards. The Demons, however, are a different prospect. Dominating possession and using a clean kick-mark game around the ground, the Tigers need to be aware of players finding space on the open side of the ground.
• Both sides showcased some really strong forward marking in their round one performances, with Courtney Wakefield, Katie Brennan and Tayla Harris all taking multiple marks inside 50. Separating defences is important for Melbourne, and preventing the defensive duo of Rebecca Miller and Harriet Cordner from coming in to support one another will be a priority for them.
• Tip: While Richmond has grown yet again, and found tighter chemistry as a group, Melbourne's methodical game style should win out. Melbourne by 18 points.

 

[TigermanM2]

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Richmond Tiger vs Melbourne Demons

Two of the most impressive winners from the opening round come face to face to kick off Round 2 at Punt Road Oval this Friday night.

After struggling in their first two years in the competition, we might be about to see the best of what Richmond can offer, with a best-on-ground performance from Monique Conti steering them to a 38-point thrashing of St Kilda in the opening match.

A tight first quarter was then followed by a Richmond onslaught, and they didn’t concede another goal until the death, booting eight majors.

Conti’s performance caught the attention of Patrick Dangerfield, who suggested on Twitter that she could win the league’s best-and-fairest award should the Tigers win enough games in 2020.

Meantime, Tayla Harris starred in her first game for Melbourne as the Dees cruised to a 24-point win over the Western Bulldogs at Whitten Oval.

She was a focal point in a forward line that feasted on a Bulldogs defence weakened by injury, booting seven goals against just three.

Given the impressive performances of both the Tigers and Dees in the opening round, it is barely surprising that Friday night’s clash at Punt Road Oval has sold out, with no more general public tickets available for sale.

It is also possible that one or both of these teams could feature in the finals this year, and should either side go all the way, it would come hot off the heels of their men’s side recently winning a flag – in Richmond’s case in 2017, 2019 and 2020, and in Melbourne’s case last year.

The question remains: which side will be able to back up their strong Round 1 performance?

Prediction: Richmond by 12 points.

 

[TigermanM2]

AFLW Round 2 Preview | Tigers v Dees
We look ahead to Melbourne's AFLW Round 2 clash against the Tigers
By Melbourne Media

LAST TIME WE MET: Round 2, 2021 | Melbourne v Richmond | Casey Fields
Melbourne’s second game of the 2021 season saw them host Richmond at Casey Fields, with the Dees walking away 28-point victors.

The match began as an even contest, the scores level at the first break. It was young gun Alyssa Bannan, who was playing just her second AFLW game, that sparked a fire in the Demons, kicking back-to-back goals and pushing them to an 11-point lead at half time.

The second half saw the home side dominate the play, Melbourne defenders keeping Richmond to just two goals for the remainder of the game. Majors from Kate Hore, Shelley Scott and Karen Paxman put the finishing touches on the win for the Demons.

PLAYERS TO WATCH: Melbourne
Eden Zanker
Zanker is coming off a standout performance in Melbourne’s Round 1 win over the Bulldogs, collecting 20 disposals, four tackles and one goal. The No.29, who previously featured heavily in the side’s forward line, has been spending more time on-ball in a midfield role, her strength through clearances and ability to hit the scoreboard becoming an asset to the team.

Lauren Pearce
Pearce is one of the leading rucks in the competition and looks to be continuing this title in 2022, after another exceptional game for the Dees last weekend. Pearce had 14 disposals and 11 hit-outs for the match, with her follow up through stoppages and strength at ground level a major value.

PLAYERS TO WATCH: Richmond
Monique Conti
Conti is an obvious choice when it comes to Tiger talent, with the 22-year-old dominating the midfield in Richmond’s Round 1 win over St Kilda. Conti had 29 disposals, nine clearances and seven tackles, making an indisputable impact on the win. She continues to be one of the league's more powerful midfielders, with explosive energy through the centre an important aspect of the team's game.

Courtney Wakefield
Richmond showed in their first game of the year that their forward line is full of strength, with Courtney Wakefield the perfect example of that. Last week, Wakefield registered nine disposals and kicked two goals, earning herself a spot in the top players for the night. The 34-year-old will be a key player to watch if she takes to the field on Friday.

Harriet Cordner
This former Dee is an All-Australian defender and an experienced AFLW player, currently in her sixth season since the league's inception. She will create a tough match-up against Melbourne’s forwards come Friday night, her sleek aerial skills and intercept marking a major threat for the Dees.

COACH'S VIEW: Tamara Hyett
“During our game against the Bulldogs, we showed some really good signs as to the way we want to play. The challenge for this group each week will be to execute more consistently across the full four quarters,” Hyett said.

“When we look ahead to our game against Richmond, we know they set up well behind the ball and are a strong intercept marking team, so we will need to be smarter with our ball use in the forward half.

"It should be a great match and the group is excited to run out against another quality opposition in the Tigers."

 

[TigermanM2]

Can't wait for this one.

Not sure if Melb are THE yardstick, but they're a top 4 team pretty comfortably. The way they stayed composed and played the game their way with the Bulldogs (and Blackburn and Lamb particularly) throwing the kitchen sink at every loose ball impressed me. How good's Zanker? Rapidly becoming my favourite non-Tiger to watch.

Five changes doesn't help us. Poppy out sucks. But I did want to see more run from the backline, and McClelland (and to a lesser extent) Sansonetti can give that. The midfield is reasonably stable. Bloody love watching the Hoskings smash in.

Bit of a fire vs ice kinda game. Handball and run vs kick and mark. Always interesting to watch different game styles, but I suspect the quality at the coalface will be the difference. I give us a chance, but not expecting a win. A lot will come down to winning the ball enough to give Wakefield a chance.

Not many chances left to watch footy at Punt Rd with the Jack Dyer Stand still there, too.

When you get 6 footers in the women's game who can play key tall or midfield with skill and the ability to run all day you've got yourself a hell of a player.

 

[scarecrow2k1]

Is anyone looking for tickets? I have 3 x GA tickets that I will be unable to use due to COVID. Free to a good home.
EDIT: All gone now.

 

[TigermanM2]

Is anyone looking for tickets? I have 3 x GA tickets that I will be unable to use due to COVID. Free to a good home.
EDIT: All gone now.

Have they been deep cleaned?

 

[juss]

Never really been into AFLW but will give it a go tonight to see how it's going and if it's improving.

I notice that Melbourne are quite heavy favourites and the line is 15 points, which in a traditionally lower scoring league is a decent line.

Are we competitive tonight or are Melbourne just too much class above that we are no chance?

 

[TigermanM2]

Never really been into AFLW but will give it a go tonight to see how it's going and if it's improving.

I notice that Melbourne are quite heavy favourites and the line is 15 points, which in a traditionally lower scoring league is a decent line.

Are we competitive tonight or are Melbourne just too much class above that we are no chance?

We were competitive against Melbourne last year but overall class just got us. This is their 6th year while it our 3rd so their list build is 3 years ahead of us.

AFLW is definitely on the improve but you can't judge on one match. Just as you get in the men's you can just get a shit match and that competition has been going 125 years.

Gut feel is that Melb will be too strong but hoping for an upset.

 

[TigermanM2]

Looking forward to how McClelland and Sansonetti go tonight. Career shaping would be too strong a term but gosh it's not far off.
Maybe a tad unfair but that's pro sport. A lot of good players to come back into the side.

 

[Phar Ace]

D'Arcy's loss is massive. Has been fantastic from game one.

Most of the girls took some time to build into the game last week but her and Mon Conti were brilliant from the opening siren. Might have been a few more goals down at quarter time without her.

Same hymn sheet mate! - sure D'arcy fluffed a couple of kicks and got none of the metrage that perhaps Shevlin did, but was way more impactive on the game - her intercepts and spoils were really pivotal at times - it's amazing what some good early defence can do for team confidence. That said, with more game time I can see Shevlin running from behind, receiving the ball and seriously launching it.

 

[Phar Ace]

Can't wait for this one.

Not sure if Melb are THE yardstick, but they're a top 4 team pretty comfortably. The way they stayed composed and played the game their way with the Bulldogs (and Blackburn and Lamb particularly) throwing the kitchen sink at every loose ball impressed me. How good's Zanker? Rapidly becoming my favourite non-Tiger to watch.

Five changes doesn't help us. Poppy out sucks. But I did want to see more run from the backline, and McClelland (and to a lesser extent) Sansonetti can give that. The midfield is reasonably stable. Bloody love watching the Hoskings smash in.

Bit of a fire vs ice kinda game. Handball and run vs kick and mark. Always interesting to watch different game styles, but I suspect the quality at the coalface will be the difference. I give us a chance, but not expecting a win. A lot will come down to winning the ball enough to give Wakefield a chance.

Not many chances left to watch footy at Punt Rd with the Jack Dyer Stand still there, too.

Same same. Zanker was awesome to watch last week. Her enthusiasm for the ball is like few others. I'm really sad that Poppy is out becuase I wanted to see Zanker go head to head with Gabby Seymour perhaps. They'll be in same space a lot but not necessarily head to head unfortunately. Hanks made 10 tackles last week so we will need to be slick by hand or we will give away a bit of ball.

 

[Phar Ace]

Looking forward to how McClelland and Sansonetti go tonight. Career shaping would be too strong a term but gosh it's not far off.
Maybe a tad unfair but that's pro sport. A lot of good players to come back into the side.

I think McClelland might have some more development, just not sure Sansonetti has.

 

[Stan Judkins]

Same hymn sheet mate! - sure D'arcy fluffed a couple of kicks and got none of the metrage that perhaps Shevlin did, but was way more impactive on the game - her intercepts and spoils were really pivotal at times - it's amazing what some good early defence can do for team confidence. That said, with more game time I can see Shevlin running from behind, receiving the ball and seriously launching it.

with more game time I can see Shevlin running from behind, receiving the ball and seriously launching it.
Ferg's said Shevlin was flying before she got a foot (toe) injury
could be a real weapon out of defensive 50 and inside fwd 50, kicking 40+ metres, which most of our players struggle to achieve
i think she may have been a little under done last week, will improve in coming weeks

we saw a few instances, especially Saints, turning over from 20 - 30 metre kicks in last weeks game
Shevlin giving us an extra 15 - 20 metres per kick, isn't as bad really on turn over, as it still means 2 extra kicks (25 metres x 2) to get back to a dangerous position

hopefully we can use her kicking distance, to our advantage, for the rest of the season

 

[Stan Judkins]

Looking forward to how McClelland and Sansonetti go tonight. Career shaping would be too strong a term but gosh it's not far off.
Maybe a tad unfair but that's pro sport. A lot of good players to come back into the side.

yeah McClelland and Sansonetti have to get a move on, it will be fascinating to watch how they perform
not many spots left in our best 21 on game days, if no injuries/illness

Bethany Lynch & Meg Macdonald can play their position, so it'll be interesting to see how it all pans out

 

[toenail63]

I’m thinking that this game could be a battle of the stars vs the stars as the changes to Melb may actually help even up the bottom 6 or so as both teams shuffle the magnets. The play should be more disjointed and Melb may have looked well drilled last week but hopefully they lose a bit of this in this game and it becomes more contested.

Losing D’Arcy will be our biggest loss. Melb should still be favourites as they have more stars especially in the middle, but if we can go close to matching them in this battle this will go a long way to keeping this game tight and us staying in the game. We need another big game from our forwards. Hoping Stella Reid bags a lazy 3 goals tonight

I’m wrapped that Tess Lavey is playing, she has been important in a few of our wins.

I'm keen to see how Meg Macdonald goes, apparently plays a bit of defence as well as mid. Also with our train on players with Meg (now listed) and Akayla Peterson it seems our recruiting is looking at more mature age players from around the league, Meg at Casey and Akayla, at Carlton VFLW being among the better league players not on a AFLW list. It probably helped to impress our scouts when last year Carlton VFLW played Port Melb and I think Akayla kicked the first 2 or 3 goals against us in that first quarter.