AFLW Rd 8, Melbourne vs Richmond 19/10 5:05pm

[Phar Ace]

We don’t have the cattle if we don’t have the extra tall in Luke or Mackinnon.

Egan 13 disp
Ellie 12
Shevlin 7

We don’t get enough outve Gabby either
They just choked us up around the contest.
Egan need to be more physical and maybe we should start playing like feee-kick merchants and get something from the umps

If ever KB is out, we just have to transition Gabby to CHF - one of the few who can present all game and keep trying to mark the ball - it's about the contest and bringing it to ground for our limited smalls! If we end up weaker down back, so be it.

Down back Bacon is showing up, was massively out matched today, but kept competing (hope the coaches note this to the group).

Lynch continues to be under utilised down back. Maybe the cool head of Lavey needs to go back there - she's got great contest IQ - not the bravest, but would help our Back 5 if we push Lynch into the middle at times.

Bring Imogen Brown in and try a rotation between her and Egan, so Egan knows the writing is on the wall.

 

[Eraser]

Why would you watch it again?

I was at the ground and you don’t get the best view of it from the fence. Plus it might be a kinder watch knowing in advance how much of a factor the umps were in bringing us down.

 

[Cdog71]

If ever KB is out, we just have to transition Gabby to CHF - one of the few who can present all game and keep trying to mark the ball - it's about the contest and bringing it to ground for our limited smalls! If we end up weaker down back, so be it.

Down back Bacon is showing up, was massively out matched today, but kept competing (hope the coaches note this to the group).

Lynch continues to be under utilised down back. Maybe the cool head of Lavey needs to go back there - she's got great contest IQ - not the bravest, but would help our Back 5 if we push Lynch into the middle at times.

Bring Imogen Brown in and try a rotation between her and Egan, so Egan knows the writing is on the wall.

I think Imogen Brown is a break glass if there’s injuries like last year, I don’t think she’s a talent waiting to go.
Amelia Peck and Knoll would been handy to have… its bloody annoying how many of our injured are over 180

We’ve got
Eastman
Wickstead
Brown

Reid
Woods
Jones


We don’t have a replacement Def for Graham. She’s 176, Zanker is 183 and was leading her around like she was towing a caravan.
I’m losing confidence in Graham.
Ford and Yassir are good at pressure and keeping the ball in the F50 but it’s been against the also rans.
We need to kick more goals against good teams.
They have to bring in Courtney Jones and maybe Woods just to bang.
We got beaten by their role players today that’s what we need to do.
Get more outve role players

 

[Cdog71]

I was at the ground and you don’t get the best view of it from the fence. Plus it might be a kinder watch knowing in advance how much of a factor the umps were in bringing us down.

Did you see ice on Brennan ankle?

 

[Eraser]

Did you see ice on Brennan ankle?

Nah was on the opposite side

 

[Blinger]

Next week against Essendon is a must win, otherwise there's a possibility we miss finals.

 

[Tigerish09]

Disappointing in a number of ways. It seems we're still a little short of the better teams. Every reason to go into today's game with some confidence but I knew we were in trouble when Graham lined up on Bannan. Predicted that Bannon would kick a bag and she did. Graham has never been and will never be AFLW standard, she can only just handle average players and even then will commit a few howlers along the way. Not a fan of Egan who is a turnover queen, lost us the game against WCE with a poor final kick and is fortunate not to have been dropped. Today she played midfield for virtually the entire game for few possessions and many ineffective disposals. She is slow, lacks any second efforts and has genuinely low Football IQ. Hosking plays tough but gets little of the ball and then has horrid skills.

Finally, just when you didn't think the umpiring could get any worse after last week, we have a 17 to 2 umpiring count at one stage of the game. Supporters have been frustrated about the umpiring for years now is the club ever going to address this formally with the AFL?

 

[Bojangles17]

Not sure about Graham in defense that’s two goal assisted by her

She’s shaky

 

[Bojangles17]

Disappointing in a number of ways. It seems we're still a little short of the better teams. Every reason to go into today's game with some confidence but I knew we were in trouble when Graham lined up on Bannan. Predicted that Bannon would kick a bag and she did. Graham has never been and will never be AFLW standard, she can only just handle average players and even then will commit a few howlers along the way. Not a fan of Egan who is a turnover queen, lost us the game against WCE with a poor final kick and is fortunate not to have been dropped. Today she played midfield for virtually the entire game for few possessions and many ineffective disposals. She is slow, lacks any second efforts and has genuinely low Football IQ. Hosking plays tough but gets little of the ball and then has horrid skills.

Finally, just when you didn't think the umpiring could get any worse after last week, we have a 17 to 2 umpiring count at one stage of the game. Supporters have been frustrated about the umpiring for years now is the club ever going to address this formally with the AFL?

Graham is average but your conclusion is a poor one , as it makes out bannan is a mug , she’s an outstanding player and would take a pretty good player to hold her, ,graham’s not that

 

[AstuteTiger]

Graham is average but your conclusion is a poor one , as it makes out bannan is a mug , she’s an outstanding player and would take a pretty good player to hold her, ,graham’s not that

So its poor coaching then? Why put a spud like graham on Bannan

 

[Tigerish09]

Graham is average but your conclusion is a poor one , as it makes out bannan is a mug , she’s an outstanding player and would take a pretty good player to hold her, ,graham’s not that

Your assumption is a poor one, I never said that Bannan is a mug, she is a good player who averages just under a goal per game. Any other player on her at the start of the game and she doesn't kick 4 goals.

 

[Bojangles17]

Your assumption is a poor one, I never said that Bannan is a mug, she is a good player who averages just under a goal per game. Any other player on her at the start of the game and she doesn't kick 4 goals.

Well then just coz an elite player kicks 4G then u don’t draw the conclusion that her opponent isn’t up to league standard , that a little clearer , I’m not saying graham is anything special but she’s up to the std

 

[Bojangles17]

So its poor coaching then? Why put a spud like graham on Bannan

I think shevlin or lavey should go back and help out

 

[Phar Ace]

So its poor coaching then? Why put a spud like graham on Bannan

Because they have more like Bannan (sure, not quite as good), we rob Peter to play Paul, but I agree, Graham was on a hiding to nothing. We ran Zanker into form too - she'll star the rest of the season out.

 

[Phar Ace]

I think shevlin or lavey should go back and help out

We need Shevlin up field a bit, Lavey with her IQ is the pick.

 

[Blinger]

We need Shevlin up field a bit, Lavey with her IQ is the pick.

Lavey could take over from Graham & continue to get games into Bacon. Bacon at least shows the desire to defend with repeat efforts & disposal is reasonably good. Graham is a liability & needs to be axed at the end of the season. If you cant kick, mark, handball or tackle you shouldn't be playing. Time to draw a line in the sand from next season, otherwise we will fall behind the better teams. We need to follow what Nth Melbourne have been doing & recruit for our weaknesses & be ruthless.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Because they have more like Bannan (sure, not quite as good), we rob Peter to play Paul, but I agree, Graham was on a hiding to nothing. We ran Zanker into form too - she'll star the rest of the season out.

Graham should not be in the team. Remember the days when Sophie Molan was getting games im getting the same vibes with Libby!

 

[Tigerandy63]

Last 10 minutes the handcuffs come off and we start smashing them hmmm. Honestly won’t read a whole lot into this loss. Melbourne fielded their best side for the year, Brennan off early, umps earned their bonuses and we still had more scoring shots. Gonna hurt to rewatch but I feel like there were plenty of positives.

We lost to a team that was 2 games and about 90% behind us before the first bounce. We were well out of the game during the 3rd quarter. Got a couple of junk time goals to close the gap. I can’t see too many positives.

 

[Phar Ace]

Graham should not be in the team. Remember the days when Sophie Molan was getting games im getting the same vibes with Libby!

100% better player than Molan, 100% quicker than Molan even if she is somehow not better

 

[AstuteTiger]

100% better player than Molan, 100% quicker than Molan even if she is somehow not better

Haha true in overall speed, but wouldn't say she's 100% better maybe 50-75% but lets face it the gist of my post is she is just no good, you get where im coming from, molan vibes meaning Graham has NFI looks so clueless out there. Ungainly, hands in your mouth stuff.

 

[Cdog71]

We lost to a team that was 2 games and about 90% behind us before the first bounce. We were well out of the game during the 3rd quarter. Got a couple of junk time goals to close the gap. I can’t see too many positives.

Dees are a powerhouse even if they’re coming from a long way back this season.
Grieser does surprise the oppo and hit her goals different ways.

We could’ve/ should’ve easily hit the scoreboard more in the 1st.
But scoring 4points in a half of footy(2qtr) isn’t gonna beat too many teams on a dry day.

Ellis not taking a backward step to their Captain and probably one of the best players in the leaugue when she gives a bit of chat and tries to get over the top of her. Ellie turned 22 on Thurs, Hore 3 x AA, 3x leading goal kicker of a very good team and turning 30 next March.

That’s like KB trying to bully a new player like Jasmine Fleming and it’s a positive that Ellie won’t stand for that sh.t

 

[Phar Ace]

Lavey could take over from Graham & continue to get games into Bacon. Bacon at least shows the desire to defend with repeat efforts & disposal is reasonably good. Graham is a liability & needs to be axed at the end of the season. If you cant kick, mark, handball or tackle you shouldn't be playing. Time to draw a line in the sand from next season, otherwise we will fall behind the better teams. We need to follow what Nth Melbourne have been doing & recruit for our weaknesses & be ruthless.

A lot is going depend on the availability of KB, as to where the place cards fall. This far into the season, I'm guessing any changes are going to be forced rather than engineered. Though, yesterday was so ordinary (4 metres gained), it would not be a shock if KB came up Ok, that Graham was dropped, as long as Shevlin remains available and healthy.

 

[Phar Ace]

Haha true in overall speed, but wouldn't say she's 100% better maybe 50-75% but lets face it the gist of my post is she is just no good, you get where im coming from, molan vibes meaning Graham has NFI looks so clueless out there. Ungainly, hands in your mouth stuff.

Yep, she started the season well enough, but it's not getting better for her in that role - is playing on players above her pay scale. You really wonder what Ferg is making of all that, and what he is seeing in terms of instructions given. Her role is purely as negator, but lately that's not happening enough.

 

[Phar Ace]

Dees are a powerhouse even if they’re coming from a long way back this season.
Grieser does surprise the oppo and hit her goals different ways.

We could’ve/ should’ve easily hit the scoreboard more in the 1st.
But scoring 4points in a half of footy(2qtr) isn’t gonna beat too many teams on a dry day.

Ellis not taking a backward step to their Captain and probably one of the best players in the leaugue when she gives a bit of chat and tries to get over the top of her. Ellie turned 22 on Thurs, Hore 3 x AA, 3x leading goal kicker of a very good team and turning 30 next March.

That’s like KB trying to bully a new player like Jasmine Fleming and it’s a positive that Ellie won’t stand for that sh.t

Yeah, liked Ellie's steadfastness in the heat as well - think she has a lot of respect in the group, and it grew even more. Let's not forget her stoush with Goldrick as well, the front on shirtfront she took in the last few minutes too, and got on with it, even without a free. Ellie is growing big time.

It's time Grieser grew as well. Doing some nice bursts, but hopefully people are reminder her what a decent unit she is and it's time for some game long dominance over he opponents. This is feeling a little bit Fredrick like - not the same, but shades of. I think Grieser is better than that - 2nd season. It's time.

 

[Cdog71]

It's time Grieser grew as well. Doing some nice bursts, but hopefully people are reminder her what a decent unit she is and it's time for some game long dominance over he opponents. This is feeling a little bit Fredrick like - not the same, but shades of. I think Grieser is better than that - 2nd season. It's time.

She doesn’t look hungry for the ball but she’s having a better year.
I just don’t think she’s an aggressive/combative type.
Wakefield was like that, Grieser has played 51 games for 83 tackles, Wakefield played 30 and has nearly 100
DDavidson has played about 8 more games but has 50 more tackles.

The contact isn’t natural to her.
Hopefully she can clunk a few in the last 2 H/A games. We’ll need her.