Richmond's 7 Consecutive MCG Games

[4THAWN]

Bottom line is, most Tiger supporters would've much preferred the Round 17-23 games at the MCG - including the top 4 at the time GWS, Collingwood, West Coast and Brisbane as opponents - as our first 7 games of the season, and happily shifted Rounds 1-7 with only two opponents (Collingwood and GWS) in the top 8 at the time as our run-in to the finals, no matter where they're played. If anything, the peculiar R17-23 fixture could've easily become a major disadvantage if we weren't playing at our optimal level. Having only 4 home games (including three against co-tennants) during Rounds 3-16 could've also terminated any team's premiership chances.

ahahhaha what the fk are you on about.

trying to spin 7 consecutive MCG games leading into the finals as a disadvantage?

wow.

It's objectively an advantage to be playing on the MCG for 7 straight weeks before the finals, as opposed to 7 straight weeks at the start of the season.

 

[Ghost of Punt Road]

Peoples, it is just a fixture to maximize all the things the AFL wants to maximize.

Over the fixture for the year, the downside {first half of the year) of maybe depressing your players and putting your club in an up-hill slog to finals positions is then balanced with the second half fixture mostly at the home ground.

I would personally prefer an easier first half of the year to set the club up in a good position, get your systems up and running, and then fight out the second half. I suspect Geelong's fixture was a bit like that.

In the end you still need to win the games, and most fixtures, over the year, had the same spread of home and away games.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

ahahhaha what the fk are you on about.

trying to spin 7 consecutive MCG games leading into the finals as a disadvantage?

wow.

It's objectively an advantage to be playing on the MCG for 7 straight weeks before the finals, as opposed to 7 straight weeks at the start of the season.

Once again, there's a big distinction between 'being a disadvantage' and 'being not an advantage'.

If 7 home games in R17-23 is "objectively an advantage", then so too is 7 home games in R1-7. As is 7 home games from R8-14, if we're being truly objective here.

The greater objective advantage is to get to play non co-tenant opposition at your home ground, rather than co-tenants. For example, Fremantle's home ground advantage is diluted significantly against West Coast, as opposed to playing a non-WA club there. Richmond are the same - we have no home ground advantage at the MCG against Collingwood, Hawthorn or Melbourne, but a significant home advantage at the G against Freo, Brissy etc or even the Saints who seem to rarely play there, even against us. Richmond had only four such instances of clear home ground advantage at the G during the 2019 H&A, five if we include the Cats (who we know prefer Kardinia Park, but at least get multiple MCG games each season to familiarise).

 

[bh90210fan]

Lol no he didn't.
That was all just light hearted banter mostly by the media trying to make a story to enrage all the sheep out there. They didn't want for or believe that game would actually be moved, they just suggested it wasn't ideal and that big games should be fixtured at the G.

www.sportingnews.com/au/amp/afl/news/cats-say-they-wont-move-tigers-game-to-the-mcg-afl-richmond-geelong-simonds-stadium/1lcx3abupv4bu11ljegriknkjz

Richmond on the other hand are all for the idea and CEO Brendon Gale was happy to stir the pot.

"We are one of three clubs with 70,000 plus members and, unfortunately, some fans will miss out when we play later in the year and that is never ideal," Gale said.

“We do think that in the interests of maximising crowds our games against Geelong should always be played at a larger stadium."

He publicly endorsed the idea, tiptoeing over a controversial issue infront of the cameras as anyone would and then Richmond fans went bonkers in the lead up to the game, actually believing they were ripped off because they couldn’t play an away game on their home ground

 

[Sir_Loin]

I don’t understand why it’s the Eagles fans that are so salty over this?
It’s as if we beat you by a point in the Gf due to you travelling.
You didn’t even make the top 4 and got rolled at home by a side you should have crushed to confirm it.
Its as if home ground advantage and avoiding an interstate flight is paramount to winning......nah, just ask the Hawks.

they can’t handle the fact they ****ed up their own home ground advantage against the hawks and are deflecting by potting the premiership team. It’s quite revealing of their pathological fear of Richmond.

 

[Sir_Loin]

He publicly endorsed the idea, tiptoeing over a controversial issue infront of the cameras as anyone would and then Richmond fans went bonkers in the lead up to the game, actually believing they were ripped off because they couldn’t play an away game on their home ground

As you don’t support Richmond and have NFI what you’re talking about I’ll enlighten you. We are a big club. Geelong is a small club. To fit the big club’s supporters in it should have been played at the MCG - a home ground for Geelong also. You know, like when they play Collingwood or Hawthorn?

Gale in his genius was shining a light on the hypocritical nature of the AFL making the biggest club play in that shanty town when the other so called big clubs don’t. And you know what? It worked. We didn’t play them there in the finals despite their epic meltdown over it and we won’t be playing another premiership H&A game there ever again. Which is fair.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

He publicly endorsed the idea, tiptoeing over a controversial issue infront of the cameras as anyone would and then Richmond fans went bonkers in the lead up to the game, actually believing they were ripped off because they couldn’t play an away game on their home ground

MCG is Melbourne's home ground.

They allow both Richmond and Geelong to hold home games there.

 

[Chode1]

Peoples, it is just a fixture to maximize all the things the AFL wants to maximize.

Over the fixture for the year, the downside {first half of the year) of maybe depressing your players and putting your club in an up-hill slog to finals positions is then balanced with the second half fixture mostly at the home ground.

I would personally prefer an easier first half of the year to set the club up in a good position, get your systems up and running, and then fight out the second half. I suspect Geelong's fixture was a bit like that.

In the end you still need to win the games, and most fixtures, over the year, had the same spread of home and away games.

In the end, yes or no only, do you think they should schedule 7-8 (like in 2010 for Collingwood) home games for any mcg tenant team leading into finals in the future? This is what the thread is about!

 

[The Goon]

In the end, yes or no only, do you think they should schedule 7-8 (like in 2010 for Collingwood) home games for any mcg tenant team leading into finals in the future? This is what the thread is about!

I'll answer that. Shit no!

At the same time please acknowledge (YES OR NO ONLY) that this scheduling came with a big downside for the Tigers in the first half of the year (in fact we had to win 9 in a row to make top 4).

 

[Eagleboy68]

It is an advantage in the sense that Richmond would get a good understanding of how to play the ground as opposed to someone like gws showing up in the grand final having played a game or two there this year.

But that's it.

Collingwood played more games at the mcg than gws as well but los in the prelim to them.

In my opinion if you aren't good enough you dont win anywhere. Richmond had as many games at the mcg in past years when they couldn't make the finals but weren't good enough to capitalise.

West coast lost 3 home games, one of them after a derby when we should have had an advantage of playing twice in a row at Optus supposedly.

A teams location of playing games doesn't impact your overall form line. It may give you a slight advantage in a game against an evenly matched team. For example the grand final at the mcg gives a slight advantage to an mcg tenant.
The eagles historically haven't had issues beating Richmond at the mcg but in recent years when they've been a top quality side we have.

But that's it.

Not having to travel gives more of an advantage overall than where you play the game.

 

[blue harvest]

He publicly endorsed the idea, tiptoeing over a controversial issue infront of the cameras as anyone would and then Richmond fans went bonkers in the lead up to the game, actually believing they were ripped off because they couldn’t play an away game on their home ground

Lol no he didn't.
He didn't want or expect it to be moved, he just said games like that should be fixtured at the G. Did you bother to read his quotes?

Most fans accepted it was a Cat's home game, it was just media hype and banter from people like KB and Molloy and online trolls that kept it an issue.

 

[4THAWN]

Once again, there's a big distinction between 'being a disadvantage' and 'being not an advantage'.

If 7 home games in R17-23 is "objectively an advantage", then so too is 7 home games in R1-7. As is 7 home games from R8-14, if we're being truly objective here.

The greater objective advantage is to get to play non co-tenant opposition at your home ground, rather than co-tenants. For example, Fremantle's home ground advantage is diluted significantly against West Coast, as opposed to playing a non-WA club there. Richmond are the same - we have no home ground advantage at the MCG against Collingwood, Hawthorn or Melbourne, but a significant home advantage at the G against Freo, Brissy etc or even the Saints who seem to rarely play there, even against us. Richmond had only four such instances of clear home ground advantage at the G during the 2019 H&A, five if we include the Cats (who we know prefer Kardinia Park, but at least get multiple MCG games each season to familiarise).

you don't have to be an astrophysicist to know that you're better equipped for finals playing 7 straight MCG games at the end of the season versus at the start of the season.

 

[Not Important]

MCG is Melbourne's home ground.

They allow both Richmond and Geelong to hold home games there.

actually the deeisappointments have no say in it along with any other club.

 

[Ron The Bear]

you don't have to be an astrophysicist to know that you're better equipped for finals playing 7 straight MCG games at the end of the season versus at the start of the season.

The opposite could easily be claimed. All those games at home and then you're out of your comfort zone for the first final, 1400km to the north. Certainly, enough people on this forum tipped Brisbane to suggest that might be the case.

 

[rmcq]

Personally I’m surprised that West Coast supporters don’t think it was a good idea to play a likely finals competitor at the MCG just before finals.

Same with Brisbane.

You guys are always complaining you want more games at the G, you get the perfect game this year in preparation for finals, and you still complain.

Should just have kept the name VFL. You guys don’t deserve to be in our comp.

 

[BruceTempany14]

Coaches say that - because thats their job.

When we are discussing footy from an analytical viewpoint no, no way, f%^* off would you want to play them at kp.

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I love the Wikipedia refernce. Really lazy research but kudos to you good sir/ madam !! At least you are trying to back up the sensationist sooking with some facts , as shabby as Wikipedia is to be treated !!

I think the NEW Richmond has proven that we win anywhere , we don't care anymore. We sure we be stupid enough to be like Chris Scott and put the doubt in our players minds !! They were beaten before they began , brilliant man management Chris Scott. Th real stinker for Richmond is that we should play Geelong at Krapdinia Park at least three times a year , that would be three more times we could embarrass them.

As for West Coast , well the 12 home games plus another game neutralised by playing the Dockers is a monster advantage , every bit as the as Geelong and Brisbane's HGA. But you know what ,at Richmond we say ' stiff sh*T'. Got play em sometime and no more satisfying way to beat them then in front of their home crowds.

Move on , enjoy the Tigers 2019 Premiership success, revel in it. You know you want to.

 

[rado]

Unfortunately, the last 7 H&A games at the G did not return a first up home final.

However, what did set the tigers on the path to glory was an away first up finals win ON THE ROAD ...... an amazing performance. From here we end up playing a prelim at a neutral venue against a team that had 2 matches, gaining vital venue experience.

Our first final at the G produced a devastating performance agaist a team that somehow forget how to play there.

The 7 games theory is a good try!!
With all the extra cash and supporters to come, I think it’s high time we turn punt road oval into the fortress others get but can’t seem to capitalise on!!

 

[Maylandsman]

WC fans - ‘hey what’s with all of the mcg games for weeks on end and 7 day breaks for Richmond leading into finals?’

Richmond fans - ‘shut up sooks’

WC fans - ‘we should rotate the grand final instead of having it on the mcg for the rest of eternity’

Richmond fans - ‘blah blah blah West Coast whingers’

Geelong fans - ‘we want a home final if we earn it’

Richmond fans - ‘ stop your complaining you entitled sooks’

***
Richmond fans - ‘we want to change the fixture halfway through the season so we can play an away match on our home ground’

Richmond fans - ‘this is a fair and reasonable request’

 

[kranky al]

I love the Wikipedia refernce. Really lazy research but kudos to you good sir/ madam !! At least you are trying to back up the sensationist sooking with some facts , as shabby as Wikipedia is to be treated !!

I think the NEW Richmond has proven that we win anywhere , we don't care anymore. We sure we be stupid enough to be like Chris Scott and put the doubt in our players minds !! They were beaten before they began , brilliant man management Chris Scott. Th real stinker for Richmond is that we should play Geelong at Krapdinia Park at least three times a year , that would be three more times we could embarrass them.

As for West Coast , well the 12 home games plus another game neutralised by playing the Dockers is a monster advantage , every bit as the as Geelong and Brisbane's HGA. But you know what ,at Richmond we say ' stiff sh*T'. Got play em sometime and no more satisfying way to beat them then in front of their home crowds.

Move on , enjoy the Tigers 2019 Premiership success, revel in it. You know you want to.

Its not wiki.

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[Boston tiger]

you don't have to be an astrophysicist to know that you're better equipped for finals playing 7 straight MCG games at the end of the season versus at the start of the season.

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