Richmond's 7 Consecutive MCG Games

[BlueandGoldforever]

why? Its not worth wasting my time or energy on it.

What I dont get is the eagles OP has a saints player as an avatar photo. work that out

Hickey plays for West Coast.

 

[BlueandGoldforever]

Yeah they’ve got it easy. Not like those Eagles who have to sit on a plane for an extra 2 hours each 2nd week. Must be brutal on the body, all that sitting

Your maths isn’t very good but why doesn’t that surprise me. If you bothered to do any research you would soon discover that travelling for athletes impedes recovery and therefore reduces their preparation time. The Eagles and Dockers players, and also the QLD teams, generally lose a day in every week, which has a significant impact in the second half of the season according to all the international studies I have read.

 

[Vindicater]

Your maths isn’t very good but why doesn’t that surprise me. If you bothered to do any research you would soon discover that travelling for athletes impedes recovery and therefore reduces their preparation time. The Eagles and Dockers players, and also the QLD teams, generally lose a day in every week, which has a significant impact in the second half of the season according to all the international studies I have read.

Did that person actually say that taking a two hour flight was good for recovery?

 

[This Is Anfield]

Richmond had 13 MCG games.

Collingwood had 14; Melbourne 12 + 2 home games in the Territory; Hawthorn 9 + 4 home games in Tasmania.

Essendon had 8 + 8 at home; Carlton 7 + 8 at home.

We had to play the MCG games at some stage. I'm sure Richmond didn't request to play the last seven there, making the other two-thirds of the fixture more difficult.

Pointless using sound reasoning when hysteria is the narrative.

 

[demondavey]

Old news bud, what's fair in the AFL anyway? Is it fair that GWS were gifted all the young talent from the under 17's and 18's?

I think it’s been a conspiracy; get GWS to a GF through concessions and make sure Tom Lynch makes a GF by giving Richmond 7 home games to finish. This is big mate. This is up there with the moon landings being faked, Port Arthur being stooged by the left to take away our guns, 9/11 being a conspiracy, and reverse racism with Houli not getting rubbed out.

Andrew Bolt and Mark Latham say hi.

 

[demondavey]

Well all I’ll say is this; Richmond making 2 grand finals in 3 years probably reflects their list and culture is in a great place. Richmond between 1981-2016 lost a hell of a lot of games at the G, one including the 1995 PF where Geelong apparently couldn’t play at the G (according to some these days). I’d argue Richmond would’ve gone close to losing the most games at the G between 81-16 considering how bad they were and the fact they’d have played there a lot.

Didn’t West Coast just win a GF at the G? And didn’t GWS just beat an MCG tenant in a PF after having a poor MCG record and missing 3 of their best players as well as their best defender and Captain getting injured?

I mean the OP will have egg on his face if GWS win on the weekend.

CM9000

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Well all I’ll say is this; Richmond making 2 grand finals in 3 years probably reflects their list and culture is in a great place. Richmond between 1981-2016 lost a hell of a lot of games at the G, one including the 1995 PF where Geelong apparently couldn’t play at the G (according to some these days). I’d argue Richmond would’ve gone close to losing the most games at the G between 81-16 considering how bad they were and the fact they’d have played there a lot.

Didn’t West Coast just win a GF at the G? And didn’t GWS just beat an MCG tenant in a PF after having a poor MCG record and missing 3 of their best players as well as their best defender and Captain getting injured?

I mean the OP will have egg on his face if GWS win on the weekend.

CM9000

Richmond are a very good team. Have been for 3 years.

But it's surely beyond doubt that playing the last 2 months of tbe season at home - then all finals at home provides a significant advantage, that only 2-3 clubs are afforded.

It's not the reason they're good. But it clearly assists greatly in bridging the gap between being good, and being in a GF.


In 2010 from memory, Collingwood didn't play away from the G for about the last month of the season, whilst St Kilda travelled.

The GF is then played at Collingwood's home ground.

The result is a tie.

To suggest that that advantage isn't worth 1 point, is folly.


I don't know people argue about it to be honest. It is what it is.

Some teams get advantages over others. Fact.

 

[TJASTA]

I love the MVG

 

[BlueandGoldforever]

Did that person actually say that taking a two hour flight was good for recovery?

Where do the WA teams ever take a two-hour flight?

Perth to Sydney is nine hours return; Perth to Melbourne is seven hours return, Perth to Brisbane is eight and a half hours return, Perth to Adelaide is five hours return and Perth to Hobart is eight hours return. This doesn't take into consideration the amount of time lost sitting around airports and travelling forth and back to airports. It is a significant disadvantage whatever way you look at it.

 

[Tex9798]

2016 the Dogs started the year with 7 consecutive games in a row at Marvel.

It's rubbish.

As I supporter of an non Victorian team I concede that Melbourne teams who share grounds with multiple teams will naturally get more games at those grounds.

But it's messed up that interstate clubs get 2 games in a row at home once, maybe twice if they are lucky.

Everyone is raving about Richmond's from since the bye.... You mean when they've played two games away from home and one of those against one of the worst teams in history.

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

2016 the Dogs started the year with 7 consecutive games in a row at Marvel.

It's rubbish.

As I supporter of an non Victorian team I concede that Melbourne teams who share grounds with multiple teams will naturally get more games at those grounds.

But it's messed up that interstate clubs get 2 games in a row at home once, maybe twice if they are lucky.

Everyone is raving about Richmond's from since the bye.... You mean when they've played two games away from home and one of those against one of the worst teams in history.

Worth noting they were outside the 8 after R14.

 

[VicBased]

the difference that interstate sides refuse to admit is that they get a genuine advantage at home to offset the travel.

Half our mcg games are neutral because both teams play there so there is no real advantage to say playing Collingwood at the g. Compared to brisbane playing anyone at the gabba.

So this neutral, no advantage familiarity does not give you any edge when it comes finals time and you are playing an Interstater that has played there once? Or any of the other teams in Victoria that steps on the hallowed ground a couple of times a season? Or the Interstate team (or Victorian team for that matter) that finishs above you but have to play you on a ground that you know every lump and bump in?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

It’s just the fixture that needs fixing, Richmond like every club are entitled to their 11 home games.
Now of course they should never get the last 7 at the MCG but that is not their fault it’s the muppets at head office who did that.
It’s only because they are a power club at the minute that it’s an issue it seems.
But there was no reason what so ever that one of their away games interstate could not of been placed in between these 7.
Head office could not run a chook raffle though so what do you expect. Either way no point blaming the Richmond Footy club.

 

[Tony Harrison]

Well all I’ll say is this; Richmond making 2 grand finals in 3 years probably reflects their list and culture is in a great place. Richmond between 1981-2016 lost a hell of a lot of games at the G, one including the 1995 PF where Geelong apparently couldn’t play at the G (according to some these days). I’d argue Richmond would’ve gone close to losing the most games at the G between 81-16 considering how bad they were and the fact they’d have played there a lot.

Didn’t West Coast just win a GF at the G? And didn’t GWS just beat an MCG tenant in a PF after having a poor MCG record and missing 3 of their best players as well as their best defender and Captain getting injured?

I mean the OP will have egg on his face if GWS win on the weekend.

CM9000

95 PF against Geelong was at Waverly.
Shit day.

 

[DerpWerls]

 

[kaiserchief13]

It definitely helped especially with momentum. They know they win there 90% of time so they only had to break even before that run started...if I was WC next year I'd request 8 away games in first 10 weeks. Then let's see if this wasn't an advantage

 

[demondavey]

95 PF against Geelong was at Waverly.
s**t day.

Big margin wasn’t it?

 

[VicBased]

OP is having a Chris Scott esque sook because meth coast couldnt Bradbury the flag again.

Pathetic.

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It is a shame that all the big Vic teams fell over when the pressure was on to perform, so we could Bradbury it.

 

[Tony Harrison]

Big margin wasn’t it?

Cold, drizzly, 89 points.

 

[MVille Swan]

It's been a really difficult patch of games for Richmond. So much travel. There was probably even an "away" game in there too,
where the ground became basically unrecognisable to the players, and only a tiny smattering of the Tigers rusted on supporters
were brave enough to make the long, arduous trip to the ground. The thoughts of the wider football community are with the
club at this most difficult of times.

 

[dustysnecktattoo]

Waaaaaaaaah

 

[Sterge]

So this neutral, no advantage familiarity does not give you any edge when it comes finals time and you are playing an Interstater that has played there once? Or any of the other teams in Victoria that steps on the hallowed ground a couple of times a season? Or the Interstate team (or Victorian team for that matter) that finishs above you but have to play you on a ground that you know every lump and bump in?

Who is talking about finals?

No one even mentioned finals and you morons all jump up and down about the mcg.

Yes it's an advantage but this time we earned it so get on a bus and **** off and once you get there get on another bus and **** off some more

 

[Tony Harrison]

So this neutral, no advantage familiarity does not give you any edge when it comes finals time and you are playing an Interstater that has played there once? Or any of the other teams in Victoria that steps on the hallowed ground a couple of times a season? Or the Interstate team (or Victorian team for that matter) that finishs above you but have to play you on a ground that you know every lump and bump in?

GWS has played 4 times on the G this year.
They are the only 'interstater' we play on the G 'come finals' this year.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

Does this undermine the integrity of the competition? Yes.

Richmond finished last year on top of the table with 18 wins. Their fixture as the reigning premier then looked unfair enough, but at least their games at the MCG weren't bunched together like this year. And yet, somehow, as the "best team" of 2018, they were somehow given 7 games in a row at the MCG to finish the season, and nothing is being made of it. If they didn't have such a dickride in terms of fixturing, they would not be in the Grand Final.

I made a thread earlier in the year before the run of games started, and it was promptly closed for some reason. According to Richmond fans, 7 consecutive games at their home ground was fair, because:
* They played 5 games outside of their state in the first 16 games.
* They had to walk across the road to Etihad to play 2 games.
* Games against co-tenants are the exact same as an away game, except they're still at their home ground, in their home state.

In reality, if we readjust the metrics to classify away games as those played outside your home state (as is the case for half th league), their fixture looks like this:
* 5 away games within 23 rounds, with one one those against a club who won 3 games for the year.
* 17 games in their home state, with 14 at their home ground.

So, the majority of their games were played in their home state, at their home ground.

This is the case for other MCG tenants, however. It's how the AFL usually fixtures. Collingwood once had 8 consecutive games at the MCG roughly a decade ago, though they didn't finish on top of the ladder the season before.

Given how Richmond went last year, why wasn't their fixture more punctuated with travel and non MCG games? How come they got 7 consecutive games at their home ground to compensate for their "increased travel" in the first half of the season? How is any of this fair for the rest of the competition?

What's more, for their interstate games, they played against sides that finished 17th (Gold Coast), 12th (Adelaide), 10th (Port Adelaide, 14th (Fremantle) and 7th (GWS) in the previous season - only a single top 8 side. In their MCG run, they played teams that finished 2nd (West Coast), 5th (Melbourne), 7th (GWS), and 3rd (Collingwood). They didn't play a single top 4 side away, and the majority of the toughest matches came in the 7 game run.

How did the AFL allow this fixture to eventuate in the first place?

You know you can always put a request for West Coast to also play 7 games in a row at the G?

 

[O_Grinners17]

If this ain't some bullshit we played 6 MCG games out of the first 16 games of the season no one talked about that goddamit