Riewoldt, Michael and Scott Incident

[tapestry]

Just want to see the general reaction to this scenario.

Your 12 year old son is the captain of the team. He is a player of exceptional talent and wins the team B and F every year. His team is playing a team which is notorious for it's 'physical' approach and has some players who are notorious for doing anything to win. The game is close and your son is injured, he stands up holding his arm, which is later discovered to be broken. Within seconds two of the other team's 'enforcers' recognising that your son may well make the difference, run up to him and deliberately knock him on the arm.

How do you react?

My eldest son was concussed in a local game when he was only 10 by a boy who was already under scrutiny and attack by other parents from other clubs for his onfield behaviour- and this is in the non-contact junior comp. As he was being wheeled to the ambulance to be taken to be checked out this kids dad came over and asked if he was ok, I didn't reply I let the ambo do it. After being told it looked like a mild concussion this dad grinned a said "oh well, no harm done then, back to the game". Every fibre of my being wanted scream abuse at him, lay him out flat on the ground, but I didn't. I just looked at him and looked away. I got my son taken care of, took him home and let myself calm down.

The next morning we met with the team coach and president of the junior club. We each wrote a letter to the junior league requesting they look into the matter, told them our thoughts and concerns and requested they look into other matters we'd heard stories of that apparently involved the same kid. That was that. As parents we sign a code of conduct on our behaviour as part of the agreement of having our kids play. I did my best to honour that code. That doesn't mean that inside I wasn't seething, but I was adult enough to remain in control of my own behaviour and reactions.

 

[toasty]

My eldest son was concussed in a local game when he was only 10 by a boy who was already under scrutiny and attack by other parents from other clubs for his onfield behaviour- and this is in the non-contact junior comp. As he was being wheeled to the ambulance to be taken to be checked out this kids dad came over and asked if he was ok, I didn't reply I let the ambo do it. After being told it looked like a mild concussion this dad grinned a said "oh well, no harm done then, back to the game". Every fibre of my being wanted scream abuse at him, lay him out flat on the ground, but I didn't. I just looked at him and looked away. I got my son taken care of, took him home and let myself calm down.

The next morning we met with the team coach and president of the junior club. We each wrote a letter to the junior league requesting they look into the matter, told them our thoughts and concerns and requested they look into other matters we'd heard stories of that apparently involved the same kid. That was that. As parents we sign a code of conduct on our behaviour as part of the agreement of having our kids play. I did my best to honour that code. That doesn't mean that inside I wasn't seething, but I was adult enough to remain in control of my own behaviour and reactions.

So what mate if your kid can't handle the heat maybe he should stay out of the kitchen, if your kids concussed in play what the f@rk did the kid do wrong?? Did his team mates attack him when was being carried off? Why is your pathetic drivel even on here??? Its footy for god sake, if we take bumping out don't our kids grow up to be pansies??? I reckon the players should be allowed to carry sticks and knives too god by the way get your soft kid into netball

 

[tapestry]

So what mate if your kid can't handle the heat maybe he should stay out of the kitchen, if your kids concussed in play what the f@rk did the kid do wrong?? Did his team mates attack him when was being carried off? Why is your pathetic drivel even on here??? Its footy for god sake, if we take bumping out don't our kids grow up to be pansies??? I reckon the players should be allowed to carry sticks and knives too god by the way get your soft kid into netball

You're a real narky piece of work aren't you. Someone asked for a reaction to a scenario, I chose not to speculate but use my reaction to a real scenario I've been in instead. If you don't like that? Tough. That's your problem not mine.

 

[saintsrule]

Because my son is only 12 I would be filthy , but what relevance does this have to what happened on Thursday night ??

Let's not cloud the Nick incident with facts !!!

Why didn't you throw in the other furphies of them pushing aside the team runner and one holding him up while the other bloke ran in from 100 metres away to launch into him .

I hear there's some excellent talent coming out in this years draft Saints fans why don't you run dead again and chase another priority pick.

Sorry to cloud the Nick incident with facts My point is that as adults, we know that this behaviour is thuggish and unacceptable. But 12 year olds watching this take their cues from how the big boys behave. Yeah it's OK to show how tough you are by knocking around an already injured player.

The incident has polarised opinion, but the AFL has to make a stand if it is serious about cleaning up the image of the game.

 

[Homer Jnr]

So what mate if your kid can't handle the heat maybe he should stay out of the kitchen, if your kids concussed in play what the f@rk did the kid do wrong?? Did his team mates attack him when was being carried off? Why is your pathetic drivel even on here??? Its footy for god sake, if we take bumping out don't our kids grow up to be pansies??? I reckon the players should be allowed to carry sticks and knives too god by the way get your soft kid into netball

For someone who seems to know everything, your literacy skills are pathetic.

Under 10's = Non-Contact, feel free to re-read the post and actually take that into account.

Nick Riewoldt = A big lad, he aint no midget, he is quite a well put together unit, and is playing in a CONTACT sport.

 

[tapestry]

Sorry to cloud the Nick incident with facts My point is that as adults, we know that this behaviour is thuggish and unacceptable. But 12 year olds watching this take their cues from how the big boys behave. Yeah it's OK to show how tough you are by knocking around an already injured player.

So a kid sees something on tv and goes and imitates it?

Using your logic we'd be a nation of 99% violent criminals who go around punching somone in the head or spitting of them to say hi in lieu of a handshake.

 

[Dutch Wink]

big difference between a 12 year old and a 22 year old

one's a grown man for starters.

SINCE IT IS WITHIN GENERAL PLAY, REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH IT MAY HURT TO SEE IT HAPPEN, IT IS LEGAL.

No wonder people are referring to supporters like you as sooks...

 

[saintsrule]

So a kid sees something on tv and goes and imitates it?

Using your logic we'd be a nation of 99% violent criminals who go around punching somone in the head or spitting of them to say hi in lieu of a handshake.

Kids can discriminate between reality and fiction, they are't stupid. But they do imitate their heroes, and football is real.

 

[saintsrule]

big difference between a 12 year old and a 22 year old

one's a grown man for starters.

SINCE IT IS WITHIN GENERAL PLAY, REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH IT MAY HURT TO SEE IT HAPPEN, IT IS LEGAL.

No wonder people are referring to supporters like you as sooks...

General play? And where was the ball?

 

[tapestry]

Kids can discriminate between reality and fiction, they are't stupid. But they do imitate their heroes, and football is real.

And their parents and coaches are adults. If a kid goes out and imitates that on the field you can't lay the sole blame on what they saw on tv. The parents and coaches shoulder the majority of the responsibility there.

 

[Dutch Wink]

where was the ball when brown's knee was whacked last GF? game hadn't even started, thats what!

new argument please.

 

[saintsrule]

So it wasn't in general play. Point made!

 

[toasty]

You're a real narky piece of work aren't you. Someone asked for a reaction to a scenario, I chose not to speculate but use my reaction to a real scenario I've been in instead. If you don't like that? Tough. That's your problem not mine.

Your saying your upset because your son was knocked out during the course of the game, the incident is completely different, aren't you the one defending two dogs for attacking an already injured player. How do kids like the one that concussed your son, learn to play like that??? Where do they get this inspiration??? Your saying you wanted to hit the kids dad because he said no harm done????

Mate I coach underage kids and was simply having a go at you because your a hypocrite, I've seen threads about whining and whinging fans, Reiwoldts dad, laughing at him crying and being called everything from a sook to a ****. Then you come in with this namby pamby feel good story about your kid wow what would you prefer the other teams parents called him sook or ****??? You think the other team wouldnt be laughing at your feeble excuses I mean we should be teaching our kids anythings right if you win shouldn't we???

No we shouldn't, sport is no different to everyday life and its morals. I tell you what if the kid that hit your kid played for me he'd be gone, I have sat a kid on the boundary from half way through the first quarter to till the end of a game because he laughed at a fat kid on the opposition. I have also kicked a player off the team because he was like the feral you've decribed with equally feral dad. I know footy is a contact sport, but I don't condone my kids deliberately trying to injure or fight other kids, but you reckon the incident from the other night is just footy good tough footy, how do you seperate that from what happened to your own snotty kid?

 

[saintsrule]

And their parents and coaches are adults. If a kid goes out and imitates that on the field you can't lay the sole blame on what they saw on tv. The parents and coaches shoulder the majority of the responsibility there.

Quite. We should be telling them it's not on. But so should the AFL take a stand on this issue, to underline what society already sees as unacceptable behaviour at a professional level.

 

[tapestry]

Toasty, you just don't get it do you? Or more correctly, you just don't want to get it. You want to find a way to dig the boot in, be abusive and derogatory just because you feel like it. I'm not going to reply to your offensive descriptions and instead be thankful that my kids aren't coached by someone who sees life through your eyes.

 

[Dutch Wink]

So it wasn't in general play. Point made!

ah, it was indeed in play

look at the video again. 20 seconds in. eddie: "and scott has just run in and crunched his shoulder".. saints player on camera is about 65 out from goal, kicks to milne who marks.



use some logic ffs.

 

[Footy_Mad]

Quite. We should be telling them it's not on. But so should the AFL take a stand on this issue, to underline what society already sees as unacceptable behaviour at a professional level.

Yes and they will.

 

[toasty]

Toasty, you just don't get it do you? Or more correctly, you just don't want to get it. You want to find a way to dig the boot in, be abusive and derogatory just because you feel like it. I'm not going to reply to your offensive descriptions and instead be thankful that my kids aren't coached by someone who sees life through your eyes.

Mate your the one that has the rose coloured glasses saying what those dogs did was right yet what the other kid did to yuor son wasn't?? get a tissue sport and by the way my kids arent only great players but great little people, of curse thats not a prerequisite for afl but who cares?

 

[saintsrule]

Yeah, why did the goons crunch Riewoldt then. I think you will see the incident judged as behind the play.

 

[Rawhead]

I always liked Saint Kilda, till the fan f.aggots on the Big Footy Board ruined them for me.

Apologies to the rational STK fans here who know the incident as being simply unsportmanlike, fullstop.

 

[cjwalkley]

Whether Michael and Scott were playing within the 'spirit' of the game is the only thing that is in question. They should not be cited, as they did not contravene any rule. St Kilda fans should get over it. If this ends up at the tribunal every player will have to play non-contact a la Milne.

 

[Footy_Mad]

I always liked Saint Kilda, till the fan f.aggots on the Big Footy Board ruined them for me.

Apologies to the rational STK fans here who know the incident as being simply unsportmanlike, fullstop.

I am a Blues supporter but still think that is the lowest thing I have seen in footy in many years.

 

[Rawhead]

I am a Blues supporter but still think that is the lowest thing I have seen in footy in many years.

IF they knew his collarbone was broken

IF

Obviously they didn't, and that makes all the difference in the world.

 

[Joffaboy]

Whether Michael and Scott were playing within the 'spirit' of the game is the only thing that is in question. They should not be cited, as they did not contravene any rule. St Kilda fans should get over it. If this ends up at the tribunal every player will have to play non-contact a la Milne.

I agree, however I wouldn't be suprised if they were as the AFl likes to sterilize football. I think they could be charged with rough play or bringing the game into disrepute or some other softc .ock charge.

This is not a troll cj, just a question. WHat did you think of Brisbane complaining about Lawrence being scratched all those years ago?

Whinging happens from all clubs unfortunately.

 

[toasty]

IF they knew his collarbone was broken

IF

Obviously they didn't, and that makes all the difference in the world.

its not that they didnt know its that they didnt care