List Mgmt. Rioli to Port Discussion

[HoneyBadger35]

Forgive the intrusion everyone, I come in peace.

 

[Dark Sharks]

If it's anything less than a pick 20-32 I'll completely backflip and will subsequently join Thorne in crying.


Third rounder, future or otherwise is a joke. It's second at MINIMUM. If he's that "bad" those morons wouldn't be offering 4 years and extra coin.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Rioli going hurts a bit but not the end of the world. He is more the icing on the cake and not the core and provided we get decent compensation, not overpaying means we do not prolong the salary cap problems and invest the pick into a rebuild.

What is he worth? I think a pick in the 20's is about right. Problem is Port do not have one. While Port think they can get Dunkley, they will not entertain giving up their first rounder.

A future second? I'd ask for more but probably accept it (maybe we get Port's F2 and F3 and give back a F4).

In 2023, our small/mid forwards include Cripps, Ryan, Waterman, Petruccelle and Langdon. In addition, we can play Shuey, Kelly, Redden and Sheed as half forwards plus Hough, Culley and XON. Also looking at being able to start our Pick 2 as HF is not a bad idea.

Others have mentioned it - do not let Port Ebert us.

 

[Westcoast88]

You don’t get better by losing your best players. Just because we only won two games this year doesn’t mean every player on the list is tainted and doesn’t have something to offer going forward.

No one's saying every player is tainted but you have to take a long term view. Trying to be significantly better next year will hinder the rebuild. You need to cut out some dead wood and we have way too many players in the 27+ age bracket who will either be retired or on their last legs next we challenge, you need to take a broom to that group for the good of the club. We won't challenge for a flag with dads army.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Mores the point we won't use pick 51, it's worthless to us.

We don't have to take a token offer from Port and they are dumb if they think that's what will get the deal done.

Exactly this. And there's no world where we need to "do the right thing" by Rioli by accepting unders.

Happy to let him him walk to North if Port try to lowball

 

[Westcoast88]

Rioli going hurts a bit but not the end of the world. He is more the icing on the cake and not the core and provided we get decent compensation, not overpaying means we do not prolong the salary cap problems and invest the pick into a rebuild.

What is he worth? I think a pick in the 20's is about right. Problem is Port do not have one. While Port think they can get Dunkley, they will not entertain giving up their first rounder.

A future second? I'd ask for more but probably accept it (maybe we get Port's F2 and F3 and give back a F4).

In 2023, our small/mid forwards include Cripps, Ryan, Waterman, Petruccelle and Langdon. In addition, we can play Shuey, Kelly, Redden and Sheed as half forwards plus Hough, Culley and XON. Also looking at being able to start our Pick 2 as HF is not a bad idea.

Others have mentioned it - do not let Port Ebert us.

We won't get a pick in the 20's imo, Rioli has tainted his character too much. We are looking at 30 + at best I'm afraid

 

[Westcoast88]

Exactly this. And there's no world where we need to "do the right thing" by Rioli by accepting unders.

Happy to let him him walk to North if Port try to lowball

Well said here here

 

[Goroyals22]

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

What is he worth? I think a pick in the 20's is about right. Problem is Port do not have one. While Port think they can get Dunkley, they will not entertain giving up their first rounder.

Don’t forget the Amon compo.

 

[Jupes]

wonder if there is any deal we can work out with north if we let him walk to them in the psd

 

[Ochre]

We won't get a pick in the 20's imo, Rioli has tainted his character too much. We are looking at 30 + at best I'm afraid

Hasn't tainted it enough to stop Port throwing 4 years and good money at him. Port can say what they want, but their actions show they rate him pretty highly.

 

[UseR2006]

 

[DanWCE]

Surely there's a threat the Crows would grab him in the PSD before he made it to Port?

 

[Westcoast88]

If it's anything less than a pick 20-32 I'll completely backflip and will subsequently join Thorne in crying.


Third rounder, future or otherwise is a joke. It's second at MINIMUM. If he's that "bad" those morons wouldn't be offering 4 years and extra coin.

Their offering 4 years because they are poorly run not because Rioli is that good. I think you will be crying your eyes out come trade time

 

[UseR2006]

On the bright side it adds some extra spice the next time we beat them with a kick after the siren.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Their offering 4 years because they are poorly run not because Rioli is that good. I think you will be crying your eyes out come trade time

So they’re only super keen on Rioli because they’re poorly run, but apparently they’re too shrewd to offer up anything of value at the trade table.

Makes sense.

 

[Westcoast88]

Is Tom Phillips worth a look in the pre season draft? Was good on the wing at the pies.
26 year old Gaff replacement. Might be better than some of the dead wood we have

Hough, Chesser,L edwards and if we went Tatas would certainly shut that down.

26 is too old. You've been in the hayshed again.

 

[squashface]

What a campaigner

 

[Westcoast88]

So they’re only super keen on Rioli because they’re poorly run, but apparently they’re too shrewd to offer up anything of value at the trade table.

Makes sense.

Wrong, I said they are offering 4 years because they are poorly run not for being keen on Rioli. Try to read someone's posts properly before responding.

 

[Goroyals22]

What a campaigner

Hopefully someone puts him into the next week when we play him.

 

[Monocle]

Surely there's a threat the Crows would grab him in the PSD before he made it to Port?

Given that North have already expressed interest in him, the chances of him making it to Port via the PSD are slim.



If Port want to be kents ( as I expect they will be ....... the Club does has form ) with lowball offers and shafting us, I would have no problem if the Club decided, to cut its losses and to walk him to North and get nothing for him.

We stood by him and this is the thanks we get ........ with such an attitude we are better off with out him, to be honest.

He isn't going to be a part of our next Premiership window, so as sorry as I am to see the talent leave, his ungrateful attitude not so much.

 

[kane249]

Surely there's a threat the Crows would grab him in the PSD before he made it to Port?

Not that I see it happening, but Rioli, Rankine and Rachelle would be a very dangerous forward line

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Wrong, I said they are offering 4 years because they are poorly run not for being keen on Rioli. Try to read someone's posts properly before responding.

Try to understand the point before going off the deep end.

Port are offering Rioli 4 years on big money. That indicates they rate him pretty highly. Regardless of whether you think it’s a good decision that a well run club would make, or a poor decision by a poor club.

If they value him highly, they should be expected to cough up for him at the trade table.

 

[Ochre]

Reading the threads on the Port board about Junior makes me really worried about the state of the SA education system

 

[Free Agent]

Mores the point we won't use pick 51, it's worthless to us.

We don't have to take a token offer from Port and they are dumb if they think that's what will get the deal done.

I'm and at the point of this being non negotiable at pick 20s or we let him go PSD. I really couldn't care less about the pick we get but more so the disrespect that's in play here.

Even pick 30s isn't good enough.
Its a matter for us not taking their lazy token pick just because they think they can. Especially after Ports aggressive secret offers to Rioli.
We need to make it a warning that money waving from oppo clubs today and in the future to our players isn't going to be enough.
Clubs need to know it's not always about just offering money to a player. You can do all that sneaky stuff behind our backs but you must make a good trade or it amounts to nothing. It will be a complete waste of time for them. I would be more then happy to see Rioli walk right into the pre season draft.
Don't even want a pick from Port at all. If they want Rioli it is simple. Pick 20s. If not Ports greedy play here can go to hell. Why would we care if they haven't this whole time.

 

[Westcoast88]

Try to understand the point before going off the deep end.

Port are offering Rioli 4 years on big money. That indicates they rate him pretty highly. Regardless of whether you think it’s a good decision that a well run club would make, or a poor decision by a poor club.

If they value him highly, they should be expected to cough up for him at the trade table.

What i understand is that you attempted to twist my words and I caught you out that's the point. I never said that Port Adelaide was poorly run for chasing Rioli so get your facts straight before you respond.