List Mgmt. Rioli to Port Discussion

[HoneyBadger35]

Forgive the intrusion everyone, I come in peace.

 

[GWeagles]

AFL won't like the optics, we won't get a port game in WA for a few years

Good. We just love beating them after the siren in Adelaide.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Loved Rioli, seriously talented and did things that made you want to go to the footy.

But leaving like this just shows poor character he is.
I've turned from a lover to a hater. C ya Kent

 

[Biggie]

Let’s not go down the casual racism track thanks

It won’t be tolerated whatsoever

 

[Makka]

Pretty disappointed Willie hasn't put out a statement or anything thanking the club or fans or anything. A bit disrespectful.

 

[FKASC]

But leaving like this

Other than the obvious disappointment in him not paying back the club that supported him, how is what he is doing that bad? Not disputing you, genuinely curious. He has nominated a club because they have offered him a deal - isn’t that what every trade basically involves these days? He blindsighted the club which I guess is a dog act but what should he have done differently? Other than not leave obviously.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Do WC get a compo pick if he goes to psd?

 

[Total_Juddshanks]

That statement is very much out of character for our club

Very out of character, in fact verging on downright unprofessional.

It's one of the clearest signs I've seen that Nisbett is losing it. What does it achieve exactly? Where does it leave the club if trade negotiations go nowhere? How does it make any teammates who are close to him feel about the club??

Fans can vent, but any business owner knows that the only sensible option in this situation is to stay classy and take the high road however betrayed you might feel- if for no other reason because other employees see how you react.

Honestly its also a bit rich for west coast to be acting as though they stuck by Rioli out of the goodness of their heart. He's not a stray puppy who Nisbett took home from the pound, they backed him for the same reason there is trade interest in him- because he's serious football talent who from his first game onwards showed he can play well at AFL level, and has a major upside justifying the investment.

I also have far more sympathy for someone in Rioli's shoes making a purely financially motivated decision than an elite player his age who has been in the system on big money since they were 18, because the stakes are way way higher for him.

Rioli has probably got another 3-4 years of prime football left in him, and he's at a point where he could have a decent 150 game career and earn some solid coin, but also at a point where he's one serious knee injury away from seeing it all evaporate.

And I hope I'm wrong but given his off field idiocy he doesn't strike me as a guy with a glittering post football career waiting for him. He's got a young family to provide for and for a 27 year old who came up through the SANFL and has spent two years suspended the difference, eg, a few hundred k and security of a longer contract might make to his future situation is huge. If you put yourself in his shoes it would be an incredibly brave call to pass on a better offer at this point.

Maybe it was different 20 years ago but in the current environment, where football clubs are clearly businesses and players are commodities who are discarded when they aren't worth anything, noone should ever criticise a player for looking out for themselves. Loyalty is all well and good but loyalty doesn't pay your mortgage.

 

[Keys]

Do WC get a compo pick if he goes to psd?

No

 

[bombard]

Pretty good argument for clubs being allowed to trade without player consent, this.

 

[Godfather32]

Very out of character, in fact verging on downright unprofessional.

It's one of the clearest signs I've seen that Nisbett is losing it. What does it achieve exactly? Where does it leave the club if negotiations go nowhere? How does it make any teammates who are close to him feel about the club??

Fans can vent, but any business owner knows that the only sensible option in this situation is to stay classy and take the high road however betrayed you might feel- if for no other reason because other employees see how you react.

Honestly its also a bit rich for west coast to be acting as though they stuck by Rioli out of the goodness of their heart. He's not a stray puppy who Nisbett took home from the pound, they backed him for the same reason there is trade interest in him- because he's serious football talent who from his first game onwards showed he can play well at AFL level, and has a major upside justifying the investment.

I also have far more sympathy for someone in Rioli's shoes making a purely financially motivated decision than an elite player his age who has been in the system on big money since they were 18, because the stakes are way way higher for him.

Rioli has probably got another 3-4 years of prime football left in him, and he's at a point where he could have a decent 150 game career and earn some solid coin, but also at a point where he's one serious knee injury away from seeing it all evaporate.

And I hope I'm wrong but given his off field idiocy he doesn't strike me as a guy with a glittering post football career waiting for him. Loyalty is all well and good but loyalty doesn't pay your mortgage. He's got a young family to provide for and for a 27 year old who came up through the SANFL and has spent two years suspended the difference, eg, a few hundred k and security of a longer contract might make to his future situation is huge.

Maybe it was different 20 years ago but in the current environment, where football clubs are clearly businesses and players are commodities who are discarded when they aren't worth anything, noone should ever criticise a player for looking out for themselves.

I actually think completely the opposite, it's the first sign that Nesbitt hasn't actually lost the plot altogether.
This statement was made as a message to Port that we're not just going to roll over and accept a shitty 4th round pick for Rioli

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Other than the obvious disappointment in him not paying back the club that supported him, how is what he is doing that bad? Not disputing you, genuinely curious. He has nominated a club because they have offered him a deal - isn’t that what every trade basically involves these days? He blindsighted the club which I guess is a dog act but what should he have done differently? Other than not leave obviously.

Everything you say is correct but it doesn’t mean we need to find a nice silver lining for him. How about stuff him, he did the wrong thing, the club supported him, he now wants out. This whole AFL industry where everything has to come out nice and rosey for everyone makes me sick. I could not care less about him anymore. And I do not wish him well in his footy career.

 

[FKASC]

This statement was made as a message to Port that we're not just going to roll over and accept a shitty 4th round pick for Rioli

Statement already our best list manager

 

[JackOutback]

Statement already our best list manager

I had that statement in our top 5 statements for the year.

 

[Bender_]

Let's be honest guys, he basically cost us a 3-peat.

We should trade Rioli and our pick 2 to Port, so they can trade Georgiades and pick 2 back so we get our proper worth.

 

[Bender_]

I had that statement in our top 5 statements for the year.

Bock & Stateston.

 

[FKASC]

Everything you say is correct but it doesn’t mean we need to find a nice silver lining for him. How about stuff him, he did the wrong thing, the club supported him, he now wants out. This whole AFL industry where everything has to come out nice and rosey for everyone makes me sick. I could not care less about him anymore. And I do not wish him well in his footy career.

Yeah I’m not suggesting we do. I’m just genuinely curious about why people think his behaviour has been so outrageous - other than deciding to leave, and other than nominating Port. Both of which seem very common.

I haven’t really been following the media commentary about it so I may have missed a detail

 

[ep2018]

He's worth more but hard to see how we don't get anything but a third rounder for him.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Yeah I’m not suggesting we do. I’m just genuinely curious about why people think his behaviour has been so outrageous - other than deciding to leave, and other than nominating Port. Both of which seem very common.

I haven’t really been following the media commentary about it so I may have missed a detail

Willie smokes pot

 

[Godfather32]

He's worth more but hard to see how we don't get anything but a third rounder for him.

Would rather send him to the PSD

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Yeah I’m not suggesting we do. I’m just genuinely curious about why people think his behaviour has been so outrageous - other than deciding to leave, and other than nominating Port. Both of which seem very common.

I haven’t really been following the media commentary about it so I may have missed a detail

I can’t speak for others but being a little old fashion he shat on our club, stuff him going forward. I don’t care what is right for him.
What was outrageous is that he does not see it to pay back the generosity we have him by keeping him employed while he was suspended.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Would rather send him to the PSD

Thinking the same, sick of doing what the player wants. Unless port coff up a high pick let him walk.

 

[Cuzz09]

I read that as Rioli has decided to go to Port , moron.

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[Ochre]

I actually think completely the opposite, it's the first sign that Nesbitt hasn't actually lost the plot altogether.
This statement was made as a message to Port that we're not just going to roll over and accept a shitty 4th round pick for Rioli

It struck me as an out of touch, arrogant CEO realising he didn't know everything he thought he did and not liking it.

 

[Godfather32]

It struck me as an out of touch, arrogant CEO realising he didn't know everything he thought he did and not liking.

Maybe it actually woke him up a bit though. We can hope anyway

 

[Bacchus]

He's worth more but hard to see how we don't get anything but a third rounder for him.

I don’t think that will be happening.

If that is all PA want to offer, then I think we would be contacting other potential suitors in Victoria, and there are at least three if not more. The fact that Rioli wants to live in Adelaide is immaterial. I don’t think we will be playing nice.

If a good deal can’t be arranged I am sure we would be sending him to the PSD and not accepting a sh*** third round pick.