AFL Toast RND 18: Win Against the Roos

[windyhill]

Stats must be broken, 19 to both Ziebell and Atley?! I cant recall seeing them on the field

ziebul =

 

[Ati Tude]

I’d say that north supporters probably don’t like Essendon supporters because we spend so much time trying to diminish them. We laugh at their finances, their small supporter base, their claims of a rivalry, pretty much everything (lolNorth, hey). We seem to do this to them much more than, dogs, saints and Melbourne who are in pretty similar positions on most fronts.

We fixate on them fixating on us.

It might not be a healthy rivalry, but everyone is kidding themselves if they think it’s not a rivalry.

Norf was just another club to me until spending time on BF. It is only seeing their vitriol towards us that got my back up. Now they are like that annoying little brother that pesters you and you have to whack them every now and again (twice this year).

 

[ghostdog]

Love that Truck was happy with the win but disatisfied with the performance.

 

[katana]

Ziebell has mastered the loose HBF seagulling around not doing any defending role. Imagine being a club who has to find the most unaccountable role in football to hide their Captain in, and he still can't play it to a high level.

is this meant to be irony? if so, nice.

 

[faible]

is this meant to be irony? if so, nice.

It’s all in the last half a dozen-ish words

 

[brutus76]

4 points

we won

kids look tired

Fresh troops on the way?

#HAVINGACRACKTHEREDANDBLACK

 

[boncer34]

Can anyone tell me, Lore I'm looking mainly at you, if the CBA numbers put up by Merrett, Parish and Stringer were unusually high?

I've never looked before but read it on the AFL app this morning for this round and those 3 attended a staggering % of centre bounces as a group. Other clubs seemed to have more spread amongst their midfielders.

 

[faible]

Can anyone tell me, Lore I'm looking mainly at you, if the CBA numbers put up by Merrett, Parish and Stringer were unusually high?

I've never looked before but read it on the AFL app this morning for this round and those 3 attended a staggering % of centre bounces as a group. Other clubs seemed to have more spread amongst their midfielders.

I imagine Langford, Shiel, McGrath and Caldwell being out would impact that, we're pretty thin for genuine midfielders to roll through.

But yes, this seems like a thing Lore would have actual numbers for on-hand.

 

[cAsEy_18]

Can anyone tell me, Lore I'm looking mainly at you, if the CBA numbers put up by Merrett, Parish and Stringer were unusually high?

I've never looked before but read it on the AFL app this morning for this round and those 3 attended a staggering % of centre bounces as a group. Other clubs seemed to have more spread amongst their midfielders.

That's been a thing for a few weeks now.
We are playing a staggeringly low number of midfielders (obviously due to availability).
And Langford out this week adds even further to that.

I saw Dev attend a couple. Outside of that, Merrett, Stringer and Parish I'm confident would have made up the rest.

 

[Lore]

Can anyone tell me, Lore I'm looking mainly at you, if the CBA numbers put up by Merrett, Parish and Stringer were unusually high?

I've never looked before but read it on the AFL app this morning for this round and those 3 attended a staggering % of centre bounces as a group. Other clubs seemed to have more spread amongst their midfielders.

I don’t track them but I looked at the data set across the league last year and there is typically a broader spread yes. The others have basically answered the rest

 

[boncer34]

I don’t track them but I looked at the data set across the league last year and there is typically a broader spread yes. The others have basically answered the rest

Yeah I thought it would be to do with our lack of depth atm. It really does highlight how much we've struggled in that department injury wise compared to the rest of the league.

 

[Lore]

Yeah I thought it would be to do with our lack of depth atm. It really does highlight how much we've struggled in that department injury wise compared to the rest of the league.

Yep so this is from the data I got last year. There's a random SuperCoach website (forget which one) that posted a spreadsheet which makes it far easier to analyse than having to do manual data entry for the entire league but there isn't one for this year yet afaik and I don't care enough to do it myself.



We didn't have a whole lot of injuries in the midfield last year, with the main one being Stringer's syndesmosis and then he struggled to find form after that, and then McGrath did the same injury at the end of the year. But you can see we tried different combinations of taller guys ("big bodies") and the smaller, classier types. Up to 6 mids getting 30%+ attendances each week, with Stringer and 3 or 4 smalls being the preferred combo when fit.

Taking last weekend against the Roos as the comparison:

Draper 93%
Wright 7%
RUCK TOTAL 100%

Stringer 89%
Perkins 7%
TALLS TOTAL 96%

Merrett 89%
Parish 86%
Smith 29%
SMALLS TOTAL 204%

So it's not that far out of whack, we tried similar a couple of times last year, like R5 when Stringer/Shiel/McGrath did the heavy lifting and Parish/Smith chopped out. Or R16-R18, with Shiel/Merrett/Parish as the main combination and chop outs from Langford/Clarke/Stringer.

But when we have more available we definitely tend to spread the load a bit more.

Not sure if it's that helpful to have data tell you what you already know, other than I guess it serves as objective confirmation

 

[faible]

I guess it serves as objective confirmation

I prefer my confirmation subjective.

 

[Lore]

I prefer my confirmation subjective.

I think that's fairly common

 

[faible]

I think

There's that subjective confirmation Lolre is BACK

 

[srobbo]

One of the worst wins you’ll see & don’t think we got of first gear until late in 2nd half. Always good to shut those flogs up on their board though.