AFL Autopsy RND 3: Done by the Dees

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Hopefully I can get back to this in some detail but, quickly, I think some perspective is needed.

There isn't scope or opportunity for mass changes after last night. They're the best side in it and have probably taken the Richmond style to the next level with a greater spread of talent, better talls, a significantly better ruck division feeding a significantly better first 3 mids.

That's where we're at essentially being toyed with by a side that good. We need to develop what it takes to stand up to the physical heat and pressure created by the defensive structure.

The only players I though were genuinely poor, in terms of a total inability to execute, and without excuse, were Heppell, Redman and Hind. Some players played well and the rest were broken as part of a combination that never stood a chance.

How does it change? Draper, Durham, Cox, Hobbs, Caldwell, Martin, Perkins, Tex and perhaps Voss all grow and gain experience. Some game time into Stringer and Shiel wouldn't hurt either.
Sums it up really. It is what it is because we are where we are at.
 
You have low expectations
he is also a hypocrite as he said at his press conference last week that tagging wasn’t an option
he looks like Matt knights to me- unsure and ineffective with no clear game plan
alastair Clarkson anyone?
Nah, I see him as having been humbled and now being responsive. I hope that he gas found a way now to make good use of McGrath. I thought last night's was his best game in a long while.
Clarkson is a pipedream, and Truck is only in his second year of a rebuild with an emerging group. There will be ups and downs.
 

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Hopefully I can get back to this in some detail but, quickly, I think some perspective is needed.

There isn't scope or opportunity for mass changes after last night. They're the best side in it and have probably taken the Richmond style to the next level with a greater spread of talent, better talls, a significantly better ruck division feeding a significantly better first 3 mids.

That's where we're at essentially being toyed with by a side that good. We need to develop what it takes to stand up to the physical heat and pressure created by the defensive structure.

The only players I though were genuinely poor, in terms of a total inability to execute, and without excuse, were Heppell, Redman and Hind. Some players played well and the rest were broken as part of a combination that never stood a chance.

How does it change? Draper, Durham, Cox, Hobbs, Caldwell, Martin, Perkins, Tex and perhaps Voss all grow and gain experience. Some game time into Stringer and Shiel wouldn't hurt either.
Not to mention Jones to come back in when fit and Reid eventually as well.

The biggest mistake you can make as a club is not knowing where you are at. For the first time in 20 years, I feel we may actually be there.
 
Not to mention Jones to come back in when fit and Reid eventually as well.

The biggest mistake you can make as a club is not knowing where you are at. For the first time in 20 years, I feel we may actually be there.
Another factor is despite the young blokes doing some good things they also make a lot of positional mistakes that allows good sides to take advantage of us. While we are getting footy into them we have to wear the mistakes and the consequences of them. Personally I think if we have a full side we are bottom of the 8 but that is not the case right now. Last two weeks have shown we are 4 or so goals short of top 4.
 
Hopefully I can get back to this in some detail but, quickly, I think some perspective is needed.

There isn't scope or opportunity for mass changes after last night. They're the best side in it and have probably taken the Richmond style to the next level with a greater spread of talent, better talls, a significantly better ruck division feeding a significantly better first 3 mids.

That's where we're at essentially being toyed with by a side that good. We need to develop what it takes to stand up to the physical heat and pressure created by the defensive structure.

The only players I though were genuinely poor, in terms of a total inability to execute, and without excuse, were Heppell, Redman and Hind. Some players played well and the rest were broken as part of a combination that never stood a chance.

How does it change? Draper, Durham, Cox, Hobbs, Caldwell, Martin, Perkins, Tex and perhaps Voss all grow and gain experience. Some game time into Stringer and Shiel wouldn't hurt either.
Draper, Durham, Cox, Hobbs, Caldwell, Martin, Perkins, Tex and I will add Reid to that.

100 games combined. Let's see how this team is when this group have played closer to that amount each.
 
Problems away from the usual blokes who get kicked every week.

Ridley can not defend one on one.
Parish , FFS stand near someone at a stoppage. Does not have to be a negative role but the starting point needs to be a covering position against the good sides. People chip Sheil but a lot of the time he engages his opponent in some way , usually a push off. Does not always work but it is not a clear run at the footy.
Ridley's game, like that of the entire half back line (Heppell, Redman, Hind) has not been anywhere near as effective as last year. Is this the fault of the players? the game plan (coaching)? Both?
 
Ridley's game, like that of the entire half back line (Heppell, Redman, Hind) has not been anywhere near as effective as last year. Is this the fault of the players? the game plan (coaching)? Both?
Not sure the game plan has changed a lot for the defenders. Midfield turnovers always hurt defenders but the confidence level seems down.
 
i don't know about you guys but i'm going to stop thinking about this game and go have a squiz at the port board
As funny as this is, this is a real good point. A huge difference between the two clubs that are 0-3 atm is we are yet to hit our time, where Port seem to have run out of it.
 
Not sure the game plan has changed a lot for the defenders. Midfield turnovers always hurt defenders but the confidence level seems down.
Agree re confidence but the question is why? Have there been changes to the game plan that would cause second guessing? Rance was involved early in the pre-season but has since stopped. And before that James Kelly. Both recent players with good knowledge and skills. Who's now the backline coach and does he have the confidence of the players? It's such a huge turnaround of form and confidence.
 
Agree re confidence but the question is why? Have there been changes to the game plan that would cause second guessing? Rance was involved early in the pre-season but has since stopped. And before that James Kelly. Both recent players with good knowledge and skills. Who's now the backline coach and does he have the confidence of the players? It's such a huge turnaround of form and confidence.
Pressure. They have been under the pump since round 1. We are making too many mistakes forward of the footy.
Captain looks to have lost the balance between positioning the players on the ground and his own game.
Ridley is having to actually defend more which is his weaker point.
Hind needs a buddy to share the attacking work load.
We beat 1 top 8 side last year. We have played 3 top 4 sides so far. Did not show up against the Cats and tried hard in the next 2 but we are not at their level over a whole game.
I suspect they got a bit in front of themselves before the Geelong game and got smacked.
The next two weeks we have played like a side that is 4 or 5 goals away from two sides that may well play in the GF.
The answers will come in the next 3 weeks.
 

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Anyone else tired of being a medicore side?
Would be everyone but when you start another rebuild what do you expect ? The problems where never going to be fixed in just one season. It may take another 3 to 5 years to really change the DNA of the past. Maybe longer.
 
At the ground it was evident, in setup we kept trying to get Ridley as a spare behind the ball. Whichever player was with Heppell would run to Ridley to even the numbers, leaving Heppell as the spare 20m from the contest.
 
At the ground it was evident, in setup we kept trying to get Ridley as a spare behind the ball. Whichever player was with Heppell would run to Ridley to even the numbers, leaving Heppell as the spare 20m from the contest.
So it was the coaching that was the problem with the half back line rather than Ridley?
 
Shame they kicked away a bit late but the effort was there, same story as last week a few too many fumbles or skill errors.

Haven't watched on TV but at the ground you could clearly see how well Melbourne were set up behind the ball compared to us. We couldn't defend the turnovers well enough on the quick transition and it cost us a few times and put the backline under the pump. I thought there was a few more times we could have tried to switch and move the zone instead of being content to keep kicking long.

Wright looked really good again which was pleasing, hopefully he can string a few more good games together.
 
Problems away from the usual blokes who get kicked every week.

Ridley can not defend one on one.
Parish , FFS stand near someone at a stoppage. Does not have to be a negative role but the starting point needs to be a covering position against the good sides. People chip Sheil but a lot of the time he engages his opponent in some way , usually a push off. Does not always work but it is not a clear run at the footy.
I bang on about francis in defence but its because you are right. Ridley one on one will get exposed, but also we lose his biggest weapon. Let him peel off and go to the ball. He's great at reading the play, getting the ball and elite with his use.

Stewart and laverde to engage the 2 key talls. Francis a medium and leave ridley to play off whichever other medium/mid is down there.
 
Caldwell should now play as much midfield as we can get into him. He is a class above Parish and Mcgrath with the football and has a dip. Good addition to the midfield.
Was excellent.
Something in these 2x 2nd rd pick deals we're doing.

Please stay fit young man.
 
Draper, Durham, Cox, Hobbs, Caldwell, Martin, Perkins, Tex and I will add Reid to that.

100 games combined. Let's see how this team is when this group have played closer to that amount each.


I deliberately left Reid out because Stewart would look like all the other highly rated defenders if he wasn't constantly faced with an opponent with 360 degrees of leading options created by there being no pressure on the ball.

Edit: Having typed that out there is definitely a need to settle the roles in defence.

I think Reid can help with this because he plays as the 7th defender to provide actual cover for the defenders.

Stewart needs to be settled on the biggest and /or most dangerous. Laverde and Ridley take the next most dangerous talls based on what they're suited to.

Reid would be extremely valuable as the third man up. Poster think Reid is a matter of weeks away from being able to play in place of Stewart. That's laughable. Don't we remember how far off the pace he was against Hipwood? How much can possibly have changed given he has been injured for most of the last 12 months.
 
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Parish was tagged, Gawn was talking about it afterwards. We tagged Petracca, they tagged Parish, and Stringer and Oliver got off the chain
Being tagged doesn't really excuse him missing targets when he has clean possession though?
 
I bang on about francis in defence but its because you are right. Ridley one on one will get exposed, but also we lose his biggest weapon. Let him peel off and go to the ball. He's great at reading the play, getting the ball and elite with his use.

Stewart and laverde to engage the 2 key talls. Francis a medium and leave ridley to play off whichever other medium/mid is down there.
Captain currently has Francis’s spot.
 

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