Rolling All Australian Team 2020
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AA selectors traditionally don't like stoppers (except Darren Glass). And Weitering is more stopper than the other candidates. That's not to say he hasn't fashioned into a valuable and dependable player.
I don't mind 1 mid being picked on a HFF if they spend time forward - plenty of sides do that anyway. 3 mids though? No way. Also, I deliberately used Bont rather than Martin as a point of comparison because Bont has hardly played forward this year. At least Martin has spent a portion there.
Also, they deliberately pick 2 rucks every year cos that's how teams play but then pick a forward line that doesn't resemble anything any side plays with.
Moore does run off his man, but sometimes he leaves him while impacting another contest to help out his other defenders. His teammates have made this point. The commentators have drawn attention to it. Jake Niall observed this when commenting on the team he selected. These days defences can be a blend of pure negators and those who attack. Moore did pretty well in the one on ones too but provided a lot of dynamic drive to our team too. Luke Ball said that even has a teenager in the reserves he couldn't believe how he was helping his teammates.
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Which is why the AA selectors are crap.
How on Earth did May not even make the squad?
Why are Dusty and Danger even in the side?
This isn't saying they haven't been exceptional players in their career, but even you have got to admit they get rewarded a fair bit just for their status in the game. If this isn't a means for the AFL to support their marketing of the game then I don't know what is.
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Many people love the way Moore plays. He is entertaining to watch and such a super athlete. He mainly plays CHB so gets a bit of a licence to run but he can lock down on the big boys too. He is 203 cm, and is taller and faster than most opponents.
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Caught the backline this afternoon after work. Thought 'good job, good balance between defence and attack'.
Went out then got home and saw the rest. Midfield not bad, Naitanui the best performed ruck, Petracca and Neale had huge years, no issue with Macrae, Boak or Guthrie getting a run.
That forward line, FMD. Dangerfield picked as a forward because he kicked 2 goals in the last quarter of the third last game of the H&A season and then named captain because ??? when even the nuffy Geelong fans are saying Guthrie and Menegola were better this years. Martin, Dangerfield and Bont all picked in the forward line is pretty insulting to the actual forwards. Glad Ryan made it but Butler and Papley stiff and you could've made a case for Gunston, Butters, Taberner.
Credit where it's due that Andrews-Moore-Boak (Naitanui if you count the ruckman not the centreman)-Dixon-Hawkins as the spine is spot on for 2020.
Went out then got home and saw the rest. Midfield not bad, Naitanui the best performed ruck, Petracca and Neale had huge years, no issue with Macrae, Boak or Guthrie getting a run.
That forward line, FMD. Dangerfield picked as a forward because he kicked 2 goals in the last quarter of the third last game of the H&A season and then named captain because ??? when even the nuffy Geelong fans are saying Guthrie and Menegola were better this years. Martin, Dangerfield and Bont all picked in the forward line is pretty insulting to the actual forwards. Glad Ryan made it but Butler and Papley stiff and you could've made a case for Gunston, Butters, Taberner.
Credit where it's due that Andrews-Moore-Boak (Naitanui if you count the ruckman not the centreman)-Dixon-Hawkins as the spine is spot on for 2020.
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Look. I ain't saying Moore wasn't a good player this year. But a lot of the selection process is indeed nowadays more about possession numbers and who seems more marketable from both a player and team perspective. This is where Moore excels.
Bias and the team I support aside, If I were to have soaked in every game and every performance whilst acknowledging the field positions as they traditionally are, it is hard to not have Weitering cemented a position on the field after having played every single game and nearly not lose a single match-up. At best, they could both be in the side. They decide to go with two ruckmen. Why not two CHBs?
The AA selection panel is indeed heavily flawed and does include a fair few bias-fueled media personalities forging the resumes of players to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. I mean you have Luke Darcy on that panel and he is an absolute troll towards the Carlton football Club (just doesn't make it as visible as Kane Cornes). He has a history of forever disregarding our players whenever comparing them to others in the league.
It is why I have lost all respect for some of the awards like the rising star. To narrow it down to just 10-11 people whose view of the game wouldn't be that much better compared to a regular spectator (irrespective of whether or not they have a celebrated history in the sport), is more likely than not going to see more questionable and more baffling decisions.
There is no reason why they could not have had Weitering and Moore. Both could play in either key defensive role. Andrews was always going to be selected but missing basically 4 games and getting soundly beaten a couple of times could have ruled against him. They could have had Moore as a bench player because he can also go forward and play in the ruck.
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He is to some extent. But sadly because he plays for Carlton, he isn't as marketable as many others. And yes, there is an inequality between the teams when marketing the game. Much of it is primarily due to the performances, which seems a tad understandable.
Multiple times this year, I've caught media outlets were highlighting St. Kilda and Richmond training sessions before informing of Carlton's team selections for their matches the following night. I don't think they even acknowledged Kade Simpson's retirement on the day he confirmed it.
Really simple decision making tree to select AA midfielders.
1. Does the player spend 75% or more of their game time in the midfield?
2. If yes to 1, is the player short a priced favourite to finish first or second in their teams best and fairest?
3. If yes to 1 and 2, does the player play for a top 4 club?
(If yes to 1, 2 and 3, the player deserves an AA midfield selection.)
5. If yes to 1 but no to 2 or 3, is the player in the ten shortest priced brownlow favorites?
(If yes to 5, the player deserves an AA midfield selection)
6. By following the above procedure, have you selected 8-9 midfielders? If yes, pat yourself on the back, forget midfielders and select the rest of the team.
1. Does the player spend 75% or more of their game time in the midfield?
2. If yes to 1, is the player short a priced favourite to finish first or second in their teams best and fairest?
3. If yes to 1 and 2, does the player play for a top 4 club?
(If yes to 1, 2 and 3, the player deserves an AA midfield selection.)
5. If yes to 1 but no to 2 or 3, is the player in the ten shortest priced brownlow favorites?
(If yes to 5, the player deserves an AA midfield selection)
6. By following the above procedure, have you selected 8-9 midfielders? If yes, pat yourself on the back, forget midfielders and select the rest of the team.
lol no
and you didnt even dispute the dbj out floss in point which was my main point hence even you agree lolol
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Imagine a forward line without no small forwards... instead replaced by midfielders...
A disgrace.
Papley and Butler should feel robbed.
A disgrace.
Papley and Butler should feel robbed.
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0.72
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That would look slightly better on first glance but wouldn't change that fact they only named 3 forwards in the entire team.
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And the guy who kicked 3 times as many goals as 2 of the forwards chosen.
It's interesting how opinions can range. For me, Brad Sheppard was amongst the seven absolute locks, alongside Petracca, Neale, Bontempelli, Hawkins, Naitanui and Boak. I think Sheppard gets overlooked because of who he plays alongside, but he's an absolute gun and has been for years.
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Isn't the side about giving credit to the players who did well for the year and not necessarily a team they're likely to send out and play a game.
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Equal 1st. And 19 goal assists in 17 games is not 0.72 but 1.1
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Are people more disappointed Weiterig didn't get in (over Moore) because he was in the squad of 40?
Would personally have had Stephen May in the final 22. Does anyone have the 1 - on - 1 stats for these three guys (Moore, Weitering, May)?
Would personally have had Stephen May in the final 22. Does anyone have the 1 - on - 1 stats for these three guys (Moore, Weitering, May)?
You mean like Jake Carlisle?
Fingers crossed our approach works as well as the Saints and it also only takes 9 years for us to make the top 8 again
