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I'm aware.
It still equates to 5 years of minimal output, if we're comparing a body of work over a career.
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I'm aware.
It still equates to 5 years of minimal output, if we're comparing a body of work over a career.
Even though he often plays tall Sheppard is definitely a medium defender as well.
How many goal assists?
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You got every right to be miffed, Gunston absolutely in front of the the half forwards named.
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DArling in 19?
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that looks a decent side to me. better balanced than the AFL garbage.
Maybe left-field, but Liam Ryan would be my Capt, the most talented footballer in the game.
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2008 was hilarious.
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Dangerfield was equal 1st in goal assists per game.
Yep, Butler too. Robbed.
Well he was in the top 10 interceptors and for 1 percenters too which shows he can attack an defend. Has been very consistent, rarely beaten and he is aggressive, not just a negator. Put 2 really good seasons together and was a standout in finals last year. Memo Blues fans, it was Roughie that Kennedy kicked all those goals on. And also remember that Andrews can get thrashed by Hawkins and eclipsed by Lynch (which Jono Brown was very critical of and nobody seems to care. If anyone is a media darling it's Harris. They have orgasms when he spoils the useless Max Lynch forgetting at the other end that Moore is competing well against Hipwood. As a Pie fan I think that Maynard was unlucky, Adams a little bit fortunate mainly because his kicking ability does not match his work ethic.
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B: Sheppard (=200th) Andrews (=60th) Ryan (=39th)
HB: Haynes (=55th) Moore (=50th) Byrne-Jones (=74th)
C: Macrae (10th) Boak (3rd) Guthrie (9th)
HF: Dangerfield (=11th) Dixon (=23rd) Bontempelli (6th)
F: Ryan (=16th) Hawkins (=25th) Martin (15th)
R: Naitanui (7th) Petracca (2nd) Neale (1st)
I: Steele (4th) Adams (5th) Daniel (=25th) Gawn (=39th)
Merrett 8th, Parker =11th, Pendlebury =13th, Wines =13th, Menegola =16th, Whitfield 18th, Lyons 19th, Walsh 20th, McGrath =21st, Jones =21st, Mundy =23rd, Brayshaw =27th, Greene =27th, T.Kelly =27th, Oliver =27th, Walters =27th, Laird =32nd, J.Kelly =32nd, Fyfe =32nd, Duncan =32nd, Goldstein =36th, Bolton =36th, Witts 38th, Zorko =39th, Viney =39th, McCluggage =39th, Rowell =39th
Gaff =45th, Ridley =48th, Butler =55th, Maynard =69th, Weitering =69th, Vlastuin =74th, Papley =80th, Gunston =86th, Jonas =86th, Butters =99th, Grimes =107th, Blicavs =113th, Taberner =118th
B: Sheppard (=200th) Andrews (=60th) Ryan (=39th)
HB: Haynes (=55th) Moore (=50th) Byrne-Jones (=74th)
C: Macrae (10th) Boak (3rd) Guthrie (9th)
HF: Dangerfield (=11th) Dixon (=23rd) Bontempelli (6th)
F: Ryan (=16th) Hawkins (=25th) Martin (15th)
R: Naitanui (7th) Petracca (2nd) Neale (1st)
I: Steele (4th) Adams (5th) Daniel (=25th) Gawn (=39th)
Merrett 8th, Parker =11th, Pendlebury =13th, Wines =13th, Menegola =16th, Whitfield 18th, Lyons 19th, Walsh 20th, McGrath =21st, Jones =21st, Mundy =23rd, Brayshaw =27th, Greene =27th, T.Kelly =27th, Oliver =27th, Walters =27th, Laird =32nd, J.Kelly =32nd, Fyfe =32nd, Duncan =32nd, Goldstein =36th, Bolton =36th, Witts 38th, Zorko =39th, Viney =39th, McCluggage =39th, Rowell =39th
Gaff =45th, Ridley =48th, Butler =55th, Maynard =69th, Weitering =69th, Vlastuin =74th, Papley =80th, Gunston =86th, Jonas =86th, Butters =99th, Grimes =107th, Blicavs =113th, Taberner =118th
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I see the point people are making about orthodox forwards but I bet a lot of defenders would prefer to line up one on one against some of those people are miffed about missing out than the likes of Dusty Martin.
Yes, fair point. I've categorized him as a key forward in my head given his frame and the role he plays but that's still 3 selections in a decade.
Nor did they all have a consistently good year, nevermind a great AA worthy year.
Geez it's like they couldn't be arsed actually thinking and went "should be" over should be.
Wingers aren't wingers and 50% of fwds aren't fwds.
Happy for Shep, NicNat and Ryan though. Deserving and actually picked in their playing position.
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If replaced Bont with Butler, put Bont on the bench, dropped Gawn and gave the captaincy to Boak - then you'd have the team about right.
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This is interesting. Something I think a lot of people don't realise is that an ordinary year by champion players like Bont, Danger, Martin is still better than a very good year by other players. Their impact on the games is immense.
Having said that, 3 mids in the fwd line is too much.
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Not really comparable to the buddy selection. At least has been a long serving captain in his own right. Just isnt any more. I think Boak should have been AA captain but not losing sleepover it, just like in sure h3s not. Both guys are stars
That's not relevant to selecton though. I'm sure a half forward would prefer to line up on Brayden Maynard than Nat Fyfe. Does that mean Nat Fyfe should be in the side on a half back flank or back pocket, even though he hasn't played there? Of course not! Nor should the likes of Bont be picked in a position he has not spent any time.
This year they picked 7 defenders, 12 mids (incl. Rucks) and 3 forwards. That's not the right balance and no team in the AFL looks like that.
Maynard and Fyfe not the same comparison because he, Danger and Martin do play forward quite a bit but not as defenders. Wouldn't mind betting that if they spent much more time forward than in the midfield they would kick more goals than Papley, Butler etc. But I get what people are saying that we should stick to the positions people play. Everyone knows thought that midfielder dominate every award and accolade.
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did anyone notice the boy band singing danger danger dangerous chorus!!!!!!after the captains speech
i suppuse the logic being captain is his involvement leading players assiocation also giving him credits for getting a season going with all the changes and dealings this year..as well as 8 all aussie starts
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If you have a look at the team sheets of most teams they usually name:
6-7 defenders
4-5 forwards
The rest are midfielders.
So I think it's fair that you throw an extra midfielder, or maybe two, in the forward line. They really overdid it this year though.
6-7 defenders
4-5 forwards
The rest are midfielders.
So I think it's fair that you throw an extra midfielder, or maybe two, in the forward line. They really overdid it this year though.
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100% true. In the same way most half forwards would rather have play DBJ than on them than Dusty. If they want to pick the best 22 players, that's fine - just don't pretend to put them in positions
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What got Collingwood over the line was Carlton simply turning off like they regularly have throughout almost every match this season.
Moore got the nod because he simply won more of the ball. Bias aside, Weitering got snubbed big time. Played every game, more one-on-one contests and ALMOST did not lose a single one. He is clearly a more traditional defender and plays by the book. I'd rather be watching that then somebody always running off their man and winning the uncontested ball.
And just so you know, I am not anti-Collingwood. I too believe Maynard got snubbed. More deserving than Moore.
