Toast Ross Lyon returns to St.Kilda #UnfinishedBusiness

[Circus]

Typical journo beta-male vibes.

It's pretty low with twists and turns in a bilious narrative designed to sling shit in every direction hoping some of it will stick somewhere. Without having any idea of who this bloke is (ignoring his own promotional CV) it reads like the type of bullying you'd expect from a coward.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Hayes has the power stance, chest puffed, eyes straight ahead like he wants to stand his ground and meet head on. HC looks like he's seen a rabid dog running at him fast and he's trying to protect his vital organs.

Owens making hunter look like a school kid

 

[ClintEastwood]

I'm big on non-verbal cues.

The arms crossed usually shows a sign of strength, resoluteness, determination. Jack Hayes and Mitch Owens have it pictured all over them.

You might be "big" on non-verbals, but crossed arms generally shows defensiveness. Go google it.

Btw Sainters, congrats on having a coach again. I hope it works out well, at least you know what/who you're getting.

 

[Sun Ra]

Was there any need for that

Sorry, I've been watching a lot of Ren & Stimpy lately and it's crept into my language subconsciously. There were no drugs involved.

 

[Munga]

I think Harvey is the forwards coach mate.

If there's anyone alive who knows how to deliver to a forward line it's Banger and Elvis.

 

[BangersAndMash]

Shortly after this pic was taken, Ross delisted Matty Allison and Ryan Byrnes.

 

[phantom13]

Self harm is bad.

This is good gear.

 

[austinnn]

I don't know who he is, but his punctuation is a disgrace.

Welcome to Australian sports journalism. Lots of school days spent staring out of windows.

 

[Sainter1873]

I just hope they follow a process and interview other candidates.

 

[MUFKilda]

According to my English teacher (and I do acknowledge it was a bloody long time ago so I maybe confused) the use or non use of a possessive apostrophe with an additional "s" after a name ending in "s" is determined by whether you would pronounce the last "s" or not.

The example she gave was that Socrates' thoughts was right but Socrates's thoughts was wrong.

And if you do pronounce the additional "s" then you can use either as in Ross' thoughts and Ross's thoughts which is not not what you, our resident English gentleman, is saying.

Help!!!

Oh yeah, and was your English teacher even English? Whose language is this? You were being taught Australian.
Game, set and match.

 

[Verdun66]

Way back we used to have training/track reports both on here and on SS. There was a solid bunch of track watchers. Closed sessions became a thing and I can’t say I have seen too many of those type of posts for a long time.

Track watching is going to be mighty interesting from now on. Who are our training reporters this pre-season?

 

[gringo2011]

Owens making hunter look like a school kid

Owens is a big unit. He must have a bit of filling out to do still.

 

[pebblesofsand]

Oh yeah, and was your English teacher even English? Whose language is this? You were being taught Australian.
Game, set and match.

Yeah but our French teacher was Australian as well, but I can tell you she was tres chic and very very sexy!!!

 

[George]

 

[Dard Ball Get]

You might be "big" on non-verbals, but crossed arms generally shows defensiveness. Go google it.

Btw Sainters, congrats on having a coach again. I hope it works out well, at least you know what/who you're getting.

Depends completely on the setting and context. Hayes would be doing it for comfort 100%

 

[Blended]

I’m all in and just got my Level 2 reserved membership sorted. Bring on Saints Footy in 2023!

 

[MUFKilda]

Yeah but our French teacher was Australian as well, but I can tell you she was tres chic and very very sexy!!!

My French teacher was an Irishman and a great guy, but not so chic and sexy.

 

[George]

I still can't believe this has all happened.

Probably won't hit until he's chewing a pen in the coaches box in Round 1.

 

[theprospect]

Opinion / Sport / Crikey

One of Australia’s oldest footy clubs is yet to modernise its governance​

Ross Lyon is set to return to St Kilda as coach, despite sexual harassment allegations in his wake.

ADAM SCHWAB
OCT 24, 2022

While ESG (environmental, social, and governance) has morphed from niche to mainstream in what seems like a hot minute, not all institutions have taken notice. AFL club St Kilda, for example, appears less concerned about the governance part.

When it comes to sporting horror stories, few challenge the sustained mediocrity of the foundation AFL club. While most long-running hoodoos have been broken in the past two decades — Boston’s Curse of the Bambino, Chicago’s Curse of Shoeless Joe, or, more locally, the droughts of Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs — St Kilda’s run continues. Its sole premiership, by one point, was in 1966. Since then, the club has remained a never-ending governance and financial nightmare.

Last week, just months after re-signing former coach Brett Ratten, the club announced his termination. While surprising, the move wasn’t especially controversial. Due to the continuing ineptitude of AFL clubs making significant termination payments to sacked coaches, the league recently introduced a maximum six-month payout clause in contracts.

Within days of Ratten’s dismissal, media leaks started appearing suggesting the return of controversial former coach Ross Lyon. On Monday it was confirmed he would be returning to the club. Lyon left the Saints in difficult circumstances in 2011 before an initially successful, but ultimately disastrous, tenure at Fremantle. After four terrible years onfield, Lyon departed Fremantle amid alleged sexual harassment claims.

In 2018, Fox reported that “a hush-money payment of more than $100,000 to a former female staff member, which included a non-disclosure agreement, to settle a sexual harassment complaint”. It has also been reported Lyon told the woman he liked her “budding boobs” during a Fremantle club function. The woman was two months pregnant. She has previously alleged she was sexually harassed by Lyon when the then 51-year-old reportedly followed her throughout the event and made a series of inappropriate and crude remarks. Lyon has also had less relevant but well-publicised marital and financial issues in recent years.

But Lyon’s previous off- and onfield issues were quietly ignored by the male-dominated AFL media. Within hours of Ratten’s firing, former St Kilda great and media personality Brendon Goddard said on SEN that “there was ‘no reason’ why Lyon couldn’t walk back into Moorabbin after his infamous defection to Fremantle back in 2011”. The Herald Sun quickly followed suit, giving more credibility to the rumour. A few days later, the Nine papers reported Lyon’s comments that he was “very close” to signing up after his “heart’s been opened” — whatever that means.

While most AFL clubs take months to appoint a coach — forming subcommittees and appointing expert search firms like Egon Zehnder — Lyon went from disgraced former Fremantle coach to returning hero in the space of… five days.
How did this happen?

Five weeks earlier, former St Kilda president Lindsay Fox held his 85th birthday on a luxury yacht, ferrying the 400-person strong guest list from New York to Montreal. The guest list read as a who’s who of the Melbourne sporting, cultural and business elite. Attendees included property billionaire John Gandel, consultant and Carlton Football Club president Luke Sayers, infrastructure tsar Rod Eddington, Melbourne Mayor Sally Capp, Linfox board members Bill Kelty, Simon Crean and presenter Eddie McGuire. Also on board were current St Kilda president and popular SEEK founder and CEO Andrew Bassat, as well as St Kilda fan and large donor Gerry Ryan (who also shouted guests a private showing of his musical Moulin Rouge).

It is becoming increasingly obvious that Ratten’s tenure came to an end aboard that luxury yacht — with Ryan, Fox, Bassat and McGuire moving towards installing McGuire’s good mate Lyon (who also works for McGuire’s production business on the Footy Classified program). The media around the appointment was masterfully controlled by McGuire. Meanwhile, St Kilda’s newly appointed CEO overseeing the shambolic process is Simon Lethlean, himself no stranger to scandal.

The appointment of Lyon was even more controversial, given he had been overlooked for the coaching role at Collingwood, Essendon and Carlton — all three clubs undertook actual coaching professional independent appointment processes, but these didn’t take place on a six-star cruise charter.
While AFL football clubs are usually small in terms of revenue (most generate less than $100 million annually), their significant public presence has meant most have made strides towards professionalising their administration and governance. It appears that perennially struggling St Kilda remains the exception, where coaches are hired and fired by a cabal of elderly billionaires aboard a superyacht.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR​

Adam Schwab
COLUMNIST @LUX_SCHWAB
Adam Schwab is a former corporate lawyer, angel investor and the co-founder of Luxury Escapes, a Melbourne-based travel company. He has written for Crikey and SmartCompany since 2005, hosts the From Zero podcast, and is the author of Pigs at the Trough: Lessons from Australia’s Decade of Corporate Greed. He is a board member of Private Media, the publisher of Crikey.

This flog is a massive covid conspiracist

 

[Sainter1873]

You might be "big" on non-verbals, but crossed arms generally shows defensiveness. Go google it.

Btw Sainters, congrats on having a coach again. I hope it works out well, at least you know what/who you're getting.

Don’t really care about the arms crossed. Hayes just looks like he means business. There’s an intensity about him.

 

[George]

This flog is a massive covid conspiracist

And with that, I'm in love with the guy Dard Ball Get

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Not sure about the last paragraph. So, is 'Schwab' stating that Carlton & Essendon knocked back Lyon. I was led to believe that it was the other way round. And if Eddie McGuire was on the yacht, then why would Collingwood knock back? Lyon. Surely Eddie still has some clout at the Pies. They just decided to go with a cheaper & younger version in McRae.
Unfortunate mess at the time, but as the reporter states, if a settlement was obtained & Lyon wasn't put on the sex offender's register's list. Then that is the end of the matter-by law.

 

[TheOsprey]

After the past few years where my interest in football has been massively dwindling, Ross Lyon returning as Senior Coach has massively rekindled the interest again. I still don't think we know how good (or bad) this list can be but I feel with RTB at the helm at least we will find out.

I'm actually excited at how the gutter media is losing the plot over this.
FFS How Ben Dixon

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is an authority on ANYTHING is beyond me and who is this Anal Schwab guy reporting on Governance?

They can all GAGF.

 

[Fat Nyfe]

Good luck. Ross cops a lot of flack from everywhere and he is definitely flawed but there are no doubts about his coaching ability and he’ll immediately slot right back in to the top echelon of coaches in the league.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

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