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But keep what confidential? What could possibly be perfectly above board that it's needed - give me a serious answer.
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Nostradamus Lives Ross Lyon Sexual Harassment
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But keep what confidential? What could possibly be perfectly above board that it's needed - give me a serious answer.
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Hard to believe you're a WC supporter. Must be hard to soar with the Eagles when you're a total goose.
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The names of all parties concerned. Are you sure the alleged victim wants her name to be discussed??
NDA's protect all parties. "I have to take their advice, I have to trust the process, and when you have the federal sex discrimination commissioner Kate Jenkins overseeing it and saying that for women to feel safe and to come forward, which is the most critical part, they need confidentiality, then I have to trust that process," he said. (Gil)
You know the NDA related to a Workers comp claim dont you?.....
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Yes, she wants to keep her name confidential to avoid embarrassment for what she's been subjected to. The NDA is to keep whatever has occurred confidential also.
Are you suggesting that she just wants to keep her name confidential simply because she worked for the Dockers?
Huh?...What do you mean?.....Where did I suggest that?!!
But you would rather that she didnt....We need transparency!!
Reginald Perrin
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Jesus, Bender, I'd like to think you're that stupid, but unfortunately there is sufficient evidence on these boards to suggest that you aren't. Get with the times, man. NDAs are as common as workplace agreements.I'm gonna go against my better judgement and indulge you here.
Give me your best answer as to why a non-disclosure agreement has been created if nothing untoward has occurred. Please, I'm really keen to hear your answer.
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Not sure where you're getting that from. Simply asking why you think parties want to be protected from embarrassment if there was nothing to be embarrassed about. Really simple.
Indeed they are Reg. I just don't understand the naivety of some of the Freo supporters to suggest everything is fine when an NDA is required in these circumstances.
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I'm saying there's more to it than just keeping your name confidential, like for what reason.
Reginald Perrin
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An NDA wasn't necessarily required, but it is standard practice.
Everything is fine, because whatever the incident was has been dealt with and put to rest. It's only being re-hashed now because of a media-driven campaign.
I'm gonna go against my better judgement and indulge you here.
Give me your best answer as to why a non-disclosure agreement has been created if nothing untoward has occurred. Please, I'm really keen to hear your answer.
I hate getting into arguments on the internet, but I'll just throw my 5 cents in anyway. Btw I don't like Lyon nor want him at my club and I kind of hope this forces him to stand down.
My guess, whatever happened is not clear cut enough to go straight to court, possibly not a comfortable fit under the rug either. So they've gone the middle ground, cash settlement, non-disclosure agreement.
This kind of thing does happen a fair bit. Time in court is expensive and not always a sure thing.
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Standard might be a bit of a stretch. But yes they want their headlines.
Fair answer.
There are a raft of possibilities. Having something to hide is only one possible reason.
Making a payout to a person (ignoring any reasons for or against at this point) involves factors that justify that payment. They may involve things of a confidential nature that both parties wish to keep private and DO NOT involve wrong doing.
Examples of this are payments for work incapacity. Some people are medically retired due to mental illness caused by ongoing stress. This can result in anxiety issues that actually make a person unfit for work. Additional stress can occur if the nature of that illness becomes public knowledge and therefore having an NDA to ensure privacy is actually beneficial to both parties WITHOUT any wrong doing.
Thats just a quick example that occurs within many work places over periods of time. You will find that many payouts to workers involve NDAs and there is no suggestion of wrong doing involved.
I'm not saying thats the case here but without the facts, you cannot assume the existence of an NDA can only be explained by the need to hide bad behaviour. It might but its not proof.
I agree, and think as per usual you’ve been pretty fair. Not sure why some here are melting at you, I’ve always enjoyed your posts. The “you can’t talk cause West Coast” defence is silly. Similarly though there is West Coast supporters here that are clearly loving this too much which is also a bit sad.
As I’ve been saying all along unless additional details are released we are all going to be discussing speculation and rumours.
Folks do however simply have to accept that financial settlements and Non Disclosure Agreements are a part of the landscape when it comes to settling workplace disputes and complaints, irrespective of the guilt or innocence of either party. They are just the cleanest, and therefore cheapest way to say goodbye in many circumstances.
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It's human nature to expect the worst, especially when it's from the point of view of a rival. But we'll never really know the truth until a colleague talks out of school which will eventually happen.
Claims of sexual assault seem ridiculously far fetched though.
To be honest I’m hoping something happens soon so that the speculation can finish. If Lyon has done something that makes his tenure untenable then let’s end him and be done with it. If it’s a beat up let’s leave home alone and judge him on on-field performance. He has one of the best funded off-field support teams in the land, has the best training facilities, and a new world class stadium to play out of. There’s no room for excuses, it’s time to start delivering.
Budding. Boobs.
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No, best player in the AFL.
Damn, can’t win them all.
Lighten up a bit boys...
Lighten up a bit boys...
Rumours around Ross won’t see the week out. Watch this space.
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Caro will have a field day tonight. Wonder what enlightenment she will bring.
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Rumours from where? If Ross goes then Bond, Rosich and Board would also need to go as they signed off on everything or are they just going to throw him under the bus and hope we all forgive them.
