Preview Round 1, 2023: St.Kilda v Fremantle - Marvel Stadium, Sunday 19th March, 4:40PM AEDT *PHILLIPOU, CAMINITI DEBUT*

Who Wins?

  • Saints

    Votes: 36 43.4%
  • Dockers

    Votes: 47 56.6%

  • Total voters
    83

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20 days away!





Preview (Thanks to lewdogs)
St.Kilda v Fremantle



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Another footy season is upon us. For us St Kilda fans, it is always a time of irrational hope and excitement, alongside the sense of impending doom.

We go into this season with so many unknowns. A new coaching team and their freshly designed gameplan. Young players, players in new positions. I feel that we could finish from top four to bottom four, although realistically we most likely end up somewhere between those. It really feels like we’re stepping into the unknown this year. And as a St Kilda supporting sadist (aren’t we all), I can’t wait.


Let’s have a look at possible best 22s:

I posted this one in the Best 22 thread after the Essendon game and will stick with it:

B: Webster Howard Battle
HB: NWM Wilkie Sinclair
C: Hill Windhager Wood
HF: Higgins Owens Byrnes
F: Gresham Caminiti/Membrey Butler
R: Marshall Steele Crouch
Int: Stocker Clark Phillipou Cordy
Paton (sub)
Bytel in for Windy if he doesn’t get up.

And I stole this one of the Freo best 22 thread:

B: Ryan Pearce Walker
HB: Clarke Cox Young
C: O’Driscall O’Meara Aish
HF: Fyfe Treacy Freddy (not sure who that is)
F: Switkowski Taberner Shultz
R: Darcy Brayshaw Serong
Int Jackson, Chapman, Walters, Brodie.



Medical Room

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It has been a shocker of an off-season on the injury front. King will spend the first part of the season on the sidelines. Hayes will miss a decent chunk of footy. Zak Jones is battling another injury, DMac’s ongoing calf issues continue, Billings had another unlucky leg break, and there are question marks over Ross, Windhager and Membrey going into round one.

Not the ideal start to Ross Lyon’s tenure, but the tall-forward shortage will provide an opportunity for a youngster to claim a spot, and hopefully in the long run help us find a decent partner for King. There still appears to be depth on most lines, with Sharman and Caminiti fighting for a spot in the forward line, the likes of Paton and Bytel in the mix for a midfield spot, and defenders such as Highmore and Coffield seemingly starting the season on the outer to start the year.



Preview

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Fremantle are coming off a successful season, making finals and having a great comeback victory in their elimination final against the Dogs. Their fans will no doubt be expecting to improve on that finish and be pushing up for the top four. They’ve lost Lobb and Mundy, two players that always seemed to kill us, but they have replaced those players with Jackson and O’Meara and will also have Fyfe in the forward line.

There has been some chat lately that we will look at this as a re-building year. I hope this is not the case and I doubt it is. Lyon has spoken openly about getting as good as we can as quickly as we can and I believe this will be the aim early in the year. This is a side that won 11 games last year, and the aim should be to improve on last year’s win total.



Players to Watch

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Matteas Phillipou
Our first round pick looks like a really exciting prospect. He can kick the ball a mile, has great hands and will hopefully add some X-factor to our forward line early in the year.

Hunter Clark
Hunter has been training in the midfield throughout the pre-season, and judging by the practice games that is where he will start the year in the team. He was poor against the Dees and looked well off the pace, but against the Bombers he showed some great signs, regularly finding the ball and seeming to play his more natural game. If he can make it as a midfielder under the tutelage of Lenny Hayes it will really change the dynamic of our team.

Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera
Nasiah has been shifted to half back and looks like he could be very dangerous there. He has been getting a lot of it in the practice games, if he can do that in the regular season his ball use and toughness will be a weapon for us.

Mitch Owens
There’s just something about him. He is so hard at the ball, but he also possesses a knack for goals that makes me think it’s more than just luck. There’s a classiness to him. Will cut his teeth in the forward line early in the year and may just be our toughest match-up.



Key Match-Ups

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Marshall v Darcy/Jackson
There is talk around that we will be a lot weaker with the retirement of Paddy Ryder. I tend to think we will be stronger as it will see Rohan Marshall move to the full-time ruck position, where he can really dominate games.

Marshall had a tough time against the duel combo of Gawn and Grundy (to be fair plenty of ruckmen will this year), but found his feet against the Bombers by dominating that game. He will have a tough match-up against the combo of Sean Darcy and Luke Jackson, who are both very good ruckmen in their own right. But if he can get on top it will be crucial to us winning this game. When big Ro gets going, he is so dominant and can thrust the team forward from most areas of the ground. I would love to see him get off to a hot start here.

Windhager/Bytel v Brayshaw
Andrew Brayshaw has established himself as one of the gun mids of the competition. Last time out against us he really turned it on in the second half and was a huge part of why they ran over the top of us. I have no doubt he’ll cop a tag here, either by Windhager if he’s fit or Bytel if he comes in. We need to curb the influence of their better mids if we are to win the game, stopping Brayshaw would go a long way to ensuring that.

Aish v Wood
Aish is a dangerous player for the Dockers. He just goes about his business and racks up possessions. Mason has been burning up the track this off-season and looks set for a massive year. If he and Brad Hill can get on top on the wings it will help us to become the running side we want to be this year. Here’s hoping he can take his form against the Dons into this game and run Aish ragged.

Wilkie v Fyfe
Fyfe’s move to the forward line will be an interesting one. You would think that Wilkie would be the perfect match-up for him; hopefully Cal can lead our backline to a really stingy day at the office.



Tip

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Round One is always so hard to get a read on. The Dockers could really be anything this season, but I tend to think a matchup at home against an interstate opponent is a great opportunity to start the second coming of RTB with a win.

Wins early in the season will be gold-dust for this team, and a great opportunity to build momentum. I liked what I saw against the Bombers, and whilst we will be going in with a somewhat makeshift forward line, I think we have enough quality in the backline and midfield to hold the Dockers to a low score and get the season off to a good start.



Saints by 18 points.



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Fyfe could be a handful up forward. Does Wilkie go to him?
 
Prediction

Webster - Howard - Wilkie
Sinclair - Battle - NWM
Wood - Crouch - Hill
Gresham - Membrey - Higgins
Owens - Caminiti - Butler

Marshall - Steele - Clark

Ross, Stocker, Phillipou, Windhager*, Paton

Probably between Cordy and Caminiti for that forward role if Membrey is fit. Not sure Caminiti has the fitness to go into the ruck which might hurt his cause?
 
Of the players who didn't play today, you'd expect Hill, Membrey and Ross to come into the 23 if fit.

Looking at it positionally;
Membrey to replace one of Cordy or Caminiti
Ross to replace Bytel
Hill to replace Paton or Byrnes
Time has come for Bytel to claim Ross's position as a regular starter. Not much of a future in the game if he can't and that should be his target.
 
Time has come for Bytel to claim Ross's position as a regular starter. Not much of a future in the game if he can't and that should be his target.
The thing I noticed with Bytel yesterday is he has really clean hands. He's very useful in the clinches.

Based on his game yesterday he would have to be thereabouts for round one.
 
Should be his target definitely, but Ross is miles ahead of him right now


Ross is just a different type. He plays a more outside game. Bytel needs one of Steele or Crouch to go out and be too good to lose that spot almost. He looks a nearly pure inside mid.
 
Ross is just a different type. He plays a more outside game. Bytel needs one of Steele or Crouch to go out and be too good to lose that spot almost. He looks a nearly pure inside mid.
Clark is also inside with not a lot of pace

Only so many of those types you can have in the team

Clark is at least able to play different roles where for Bytel it's midfield or bench normally
 

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Ross is just a different type. He plays a more outside game. Bytel needs one of Steele or Crouch to go out and be too good to lose that spot almost. He looks a nearly pure inside mid.
Actually thought Bytel centre clearance work helped Crouch get the ball forward a few times yesterday with his clean hands

I'm hoping he can take a big step this year, I think he has the tools to be a good player

Only played 16 games and our development has been rubbish for the last few years
 
Clark needs to play mid. Lenny was keen to work with him and I think we'll see the fruits of it if we just stick with him on the inside.

I'd like to see Bytel play. I know it's unlikely, but I just want to see him get a run at it.
What Clark lacks with pace he makes up with his creativity, he offers something different
 
Actually thought Bytel centre clearance work helped Crouch get the ball forward a few times yesterday with his clean hands

I'm hoping he can take a big step this year, I think he has the tools to be a good player

Only played 16 games and our development has been rubbish for the last few years

He was excellent yesterday but has to dislodge the captain or Crouch who looks primed to go up another level.
 
The thing I noticed with Bytel yesterday is he has really clean hands. He's very useful in the clinches.

Based on his game yesterday he would have to be thereabouts for round one.
I thought the same. He’s got great hands. Just needs to match it on the outside. He wouldn’t be too far away. Not sure if he plays round one though.
 
Clark needs to play mid. Lenny was keen to work with him and I think we'll see the fruits of it if we just stick with him on the inside.

I'd like to see Bytel play. I know it's unlikely, but I just want to see him get a run at it.
Always found it bizarre that Ratten never really backed him in the midfield.

He ended 2020 really promising with a few stints in there.

Round 1 2021 he was terrific as a mid then only got limited time the following week and barely played there again all year.

It’s not as though we haven’t been crying out for young mids to come through.

Hopefully Hayes and Lyon can get the best out of him. Only worry for me is if we end up too slow with Clark, Steele and Crouch
 
Actually
Always found it bizarre that Ratten never really backed him in the midfield.

He ended 2020 really promising with a few stints in there.

Round 1 2021 he was terrific as a mid then only got limited time the following week and barely played there again all year.

It’s not as though we haven’t been crying out for young mids to come through.

Hopefully Hayes and Lyon can get the best out of him. Only worry for me is if we end up too slow with Clark, Steele and Crouch
The thing with good development is letting the player have a long stint in the position
 
Always found it bizarre that Ratten never really backed him in the midfield.

He ended 2020 really promising with a few stints in there.

Round 1 2021 he was terrific as a mid then only got limited time the following week and barely played there again all year.

It’s not as though we haven’t been crying out for young mids to come through.

Hopefully Hayes and Lyon can get the best out of him. Only worry for me is if we end up too slow with Clark, Steele and Crouch


Agreed. Sometimes players just need a run at it.

I think it can work if we get our rotations right.
 
I know we aren't meant to look at it as groups of fixtures but I just can't help myself... For me it's about the first four, Dockers, Dogs, Bombers, Suns. I'd love to be 2-2 and realistically I think we'll lose the first two.

Having said that this is a great opportunity to get ahead of the ledger. The Dockers are a good side but if we can match it with them in the midfield I have no doubt we can win.

They're coming into a new season with no Mundy or Lobb. They are definitely holes they need to fill. Our forward line is makeshift but if we can get it in there enough by winning in the middle it will cause them trouble.

Will be a long weekend waiting around for the game. Or should I say a long two weeks from now!
 
I know we aren't meant to look at it as groups of fixtures but I just can't help myself... For me it's about the first four, Dockers, Dogs, Bombers, Suns. I'd love to be 2-2 and realistically I think we'll lose the first two.

Having said that this is a great opportunity to get ahead of the ledger. The Dockers are a good side but if we can match it with them in the midfield I have no doubt we can win.

They're coming into a new season with no Mundy or Lobb. They are definitely holes they need to fill. Our forward line is makeshift but if we can get it in there enough by winning in the middle it will cause them trouble.

Will be a long weekend waiting around for the game. Or should I say a long two weeks from now!
Lobb’s hole has been filled by Jackson * cough *, and although not as quite as good - Mundy’s by O’Meara.

Treacy and Sturt looked pretty good too, along with Taberner in the praccy.

Unfortunately I think our injury list is the point of difference here, but if anyone is capable of a St Kilda Stumble, it’s Freo 😂
 
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