Preview Round 1, 2023: St.Kilda v Fremantle - Marvel Stadium, Sunday 19th March, 4:40PM AEDT *PHILLIPOU, CAMINITI DEBUT*

[ScrappyDo]

Any predictions on the crowd?

Hope all this negativity doesn't hinder a big crowd from attending.

Only thing that will prevent the fans attending is the time slot, venue, opposition and injury list.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Yes of course but can anyone here actually say weather he'll work out as an effective KPD for the next couple of years?
I know he's very average, l just reckon it's smart to reserve judgment till he's had a chance.
My feeling is we won't be able to land a premo KPD and will have to develop Van Es and Adams. Cordy fills the hole.

I guess the choice was to cough up trade value for a "good" key defender ( ie Howard ( 2nd round ) , Keith ( 2nd round ) Weiderman, Francis, Logue etc )
Given our draft choices last year i'm very happy that we chose instead to draft Van Es, and make do with our current tallish players and Cordy.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

I reckon at least 30K++

Melbourne has been turning it on lately with respect to event turnouts.

They even got 1.5 million total attendance to Moomba.

Lets not forget the Harry Styles and Ed Sherran events.

I hate the MCG as a music venue.

The best music venue i've been to, from an acoustic point of view , is the "little" concert hall in the art centre. You can see the effort they have gone to in using soft sound absorbing materials. Ironically it seems to be used for comedy shows a lot.
Shoving big crowds into the massive MCG, complete with ultra reflective hard surfaces is just commercial greed.
Its just the artist wanting to do less shows for more money.
If people 800 000 people go to an event 1 night, or 400 000 go over two nights, its the same number of people turning up.

 

[Saintbloke]

Ed Sheeran should have hung around to be at the first Saints game, and we could have had a full house.

 

[stavro#4]

RTB saying Membrey could miss a month.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Ed Sheeran should have hung around to be at the first Saints game, and we could have had a full house.

He could’ve got a game the way things are going.

 

[plugger66]

I think he’s trained better for longer, (no fault of Hammers). I think the fact that we’re going into the game with no established kpf. Sharman showing he can at least get scoring opportunities.

Fair enough but when I go to training I think he could train a little harder and in the couple of intraclub games could play harder. Also to me who isn’t close to a kpf. Genuine hff to me but just taller than most.

 

[gringo2011]

Only thing that will prevent the fans attending is the time slot, venue, opposition and injury list.

I'm going away for the weekend so there's that as well.

 

[Plugger35]

Let’s get Spencer White back, Buddy 2.0


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Even Tom Lee or Beau Maister would be handy right now with our lack of key forwards.

RTB saying Membrey could miss a month.

The news just keeps getting worse, with King and Hayes copping long term injuries the last person we could afford to cop another one was Membrey.

Unbelievable bad luck to have all 3 go down at the same time, 2 out of 3 is bad enough.

 

[puppy_dog7]

Good point. It's great to have a stern test of our pressure early this season. The rest of our game plan will be actioned in coming months, but pressure and effort are the RTB non-negotiables, so I'd expect a slightly flaky lockdown which will probably be derided by the media but I'll be stoked if we are still in the game halfway through 4Q because it means that the teamwork and leadership is there.

"Slightly flaky" because the coaches haven't had a lot of time to whip this group into the miserly battalion that will be our end product yet.

One thing that will s**t me is all the media w***ers- especially the Saints old boys - treating RTB like a cartoon character, the same way they treated Sheedy back in the day, and laughing about every single utterance that man makes, excitedly describing them as classic Ross-isms and trying to squeeze more "You’re quite brilliant Shane"s out of him for their own amusement. The worst thing is at some stage in the season, when the footy gets really dire, he might even start playing up to it himself, and becoming that 2D "character" the footy world is crying out for.

Didn’t take long. Just a few days and the Ross-isms are back

 

[plugger66]

Any predictions on the crowd?

Hope all this negativity doesn't hinder a big crowd from attending.

I’m going 17k max.

 

[Cairnsman]

Fair enough but when I go to training I think he could train a little harder and in the couple of intraclub games could play harder. Also to me who isn’t close to a log. Genuine hff to me but just taller than most.

Do you reckon he's got the agility and ground tools to play HFF, looks like he needs one of those rubbish grabber claws to attack any ball below his knees.

 

[Remboy]

I’m going 17k max.

Replacement buses on the Belgrave-Lilydale lines won't help. I really want to be there but jeepers the couch is starting to look very comfy.

 

[plugger66]

Replacement buses on the Belgrave-Lilydale lines won't help. I really want to be there but jeepers the couch is starting to look very comfy.

I’m going but a 10pm finish doesn’t really excite me.

 

[AirWinmar]

I'm Coops biggest fan but I can see the difference. Coops is a lead up forward and most like Bailey Fritsch. He'll make the most out of limited chances but has less strings to his bow than guys like Owens who is probably his competition. If they play Phillipou you can see why he's probably being left out because he will play a similar role.

Size is irrelevant IMO, Ben Brown is mostly a lead up into space type despite his size (he can contest in the air though), McDonald is probably their big combative forward who skittles defences. The way we use King is as a sit under the fall of the ball and mark or spill type.

Caminiti seems much more of the bee line the ball forward who will power through anything in his way to get there. Hayes has that ability too. Membrey is probably a bit more like Sharman. Doesn't really smash defences open but can contest better than most for his size.

Sharman is the type who would be a gun in a good side that needs a third tall that splits open sides through efficiency. We have a strange set up with our forwards and he's struggling to get a spot.

there can be different types of key forwards. Ben Brown, Kennedy, Franklin, Walker, etc are forwards who are very good at getting in space on the lead. Sharman is like that and can take a flyer as well. Some key forwards are more crashing the pack, overpowering their opponent and outmarking their opponent.

Membery is more your third tall, very hard to matchup on if you have 2 other key forwards as he is too tall for a small defender and too quick and agile for a tall.

Caminiti is more a strength and pack mark type forward from what I've seen of him.

The key for me is, King, Sharman, Caminiti, Hayes, Marshall can play on a kpd and beat them in the air in a role of key forward.

Selection will be a question of do we tweak our gameplan to suit Sharman or do we use the same game plan and see how Caminiti goes.

Massive ask of someone who was playing VFL 2 months ago in my view and Sharman obviously is our most proven key forward on exposed form

 

[plugger66]

Do you reckon he's got the agility and ground tools to play HFF, looks like he needs one of those rubbish grabber claws to attack any ball below his knees.

Probably more because he plays usually outside the contest and like flying from the side.

 

[Cairnsman]

Probably more because he plays usually outside the contest and like flying from the side.

Definitely his one wood.

 

[saintbatty]

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Didn’t take long. Just a few days and the Ross-isms are back

Got a link to this?

 

[Oh When the Saints]

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New season, same old Ross. Watch our Senior Coach's press conference ahead of Sunday's season opener against Fremantle.

www.saints.com.au

Great presser from RTB. The Hammer and Phillipou to debut. Great story about how Jack Silvagni

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told SOS that the Hammer had beaten Weitering silly at training and then SOS (as incoming list manager, unbeknown to Jack) gets the Hammer down to the Saints for training.

Excitement level doubled after the presser. RTB is hungry and committed 200%.

 

[puppy_dog7]

Video

New season, same old Ross. Watch our Senior Coach's press conference ahead of Sunday's season opener against Fremantle.

www.saints.com.au

Great presser from RTB. The Hammer and Phillipou to debut. Great story about how Jack Silvagni told SOS that the Hammer had beaten Weitering silly at training and then SOS (as incoming list manager, unbeknown to Jack) gets the Hammer down to the Saints for training.

Excitement level doubled after the presser. RTB is hungry and committed 200%.

Jack Silvagni already a better recruiter than anyone we’ve had in the last 15 years.

 

[DarkSaint]

With Membrey out for a month we need to play Sharman (need to be played every game up forward imo)

Have Campbell as our emergency if Marshall needs support or if one of the other forwards don't fire

Blind Freddy can see this and i hope this coaching panel can as well because match committee selections over the past 10 years have been shocking!

 

[The Punter]

With Membrey out for a month we need to play Sharman (need to be played every game up forward imo)

Have Campbell as our emergency if Marshall needs support or if one of the other forwards don't fire

Blind Freddy can see this and i hope this coaching panel can as well because match committee selections over the past 10 years have been shocking!

Sounds a lot like Caminiti and Phillipou ahead of Sharman, with Cordy or Campbell as the ruck/forward.

 

[CaptainRisky]

Ed Sheeran should have hung around to be at the first Saints game, and we could have had a full house.

 

[MordySaint]

I’m going 17k max.

Blimey ... 17k... we ain't Norf

Nearly had that many at Moorabbin the other day

 

[CaptainRisky]

Blimey ... 17k... we ain't Norf

Nearly had that many at Moorabbin the other day

A; We had 8000 at Moorabbin
B; It wasn't a Sunday night
C; We don't often play at Moorabbin so people were always going to go ,
17 - 20k should see it out