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I didn't know V Capri had reformed.
You don't get outcomes without process.I think in modern footy there is too much emphasis on "process" and not enough on "outcome"
They spend all pre-season working out how they want to play, whether that be how mids structure up and move around at a ball up or whatever. And they get drilled in them to stick to the plan ... the plan will work ... just give it time
Sometimes you just wish players would react to the immediate situation a bit more and freelance.
Definitely needs to be at half forward. Not sure about CHF, he'll dominate in a tall flanker role IMO
Fyfe would be perfect as a 3rd tall (when you have 2 good first talls!!). Should be the icing and not the cake
Pretty much rewatched it all and we really left some goals out there with the "nearly" plays. Some shaky decision-making, lack of composure, simple skill errors and a little bit of luck all cost us goals, particularly when we dominated for long periods of the 2Q & 3Q, when we easily could've gone in 5+ goals up at 3/4 time. This includes getting more one touch pick ups and cleaner feed-outs at the stoppage.I watched the replay of the first quarter yesterday while on my spin bike and we just couldn't hit a target and couldn't hold a mark. Sean Darcy, Josh Treacy particularly would have kicked simple shots at goal if they had held their marks which bounced off their arms. Both of those resulted in rebounding ball movement from the Saints to score too.
That's enough improvement before we factor in that our stoppage team couldn't win a hard ball.
Because I know you're a good poster, I'm going to keep going to bat for Henry here. People are too focused on his bad plays. He does still have the odd glaring clanger where he bites off too much but we all watched that game lamenting the lack of run or dare didnt we? At least Henry TRIES to get something working.While not wanting to focus on certain players too much (the back half were very very good thankfully), Henry must realise you don't have all the time in the world at AFL level. Too many times, took just that bit longer to make a decision, tried something too speccy or cute, was too far off his man after disposing of the ball so couldn't help with second efforts to at least pressure the ball carrier, and we ended up in a worse position than before his involvement. Needs to watch old vids of Walters.
Are you sure about this? How many did you see specifically?While not wanting to focus on certain players too much (the back half were very very good thankfully), Henry must realise you don't have all the time in the world at AFL level. Too many times, took just that bit longer to make a decision, tried something too speccy or cute, was too far off his man after disposing of the ball so couldn't help with second efforts to at least pressure the ball carrier, and we ended up in a worse position than before his involvement. Needs to watch old vids of Walters.
Agree. You can tell he has been charged with the task of pulling off the skilled but risky game opening precision kick. Few others will attemp it (though Darcy gave it a shot early and got picked off).Because I know you're a good poster, I'm going to keep going to bat for Henry here. People are too focused on his bad plays. He does still have the odd glaring clanger where he bites off too much but we all watched that game lamenting the lack of run or dare didnt we? At least Henry TRIES to get something working.
- Henry lead scoring involvements and his disposal efficiency (79%) was only bettered by Schultz, the backline who played kick to kick to each other and the key forwards who touched it about 4 times between themselves.
- He had 3 clangers in his 21 possessions (a clanger on 14.2% of his possessions), just over the team average of 13.5% of the day which included way way way too much safe football.
- While he didnt get credited a tackle, he had 18 pressure acts, 6th best for the team
Sometimes it doesnt come off but I'll take that and back the backline to do it's job if it means the forwards actually have a chance to score. The more players with Henry's approach to the game, the closer we get to playing like Collingwood.
I know, I'm just going to keep going to bat for the dude because of all the problems on the weekend, I dont think he was one of them. Henry's bad moments do stand out but on the weekend, they were outweighed by the good ones (which also stand out). I think if that game is the average we can expect (he'll have a couple worse, a couple a better) from him this year then that's ok for him to be best 22 and he can keep building.Not calling for him to be delisted or something else dramatic, but watching Henry's last game caused me a number of frustrating moments (and I have never had any hate for him) and just calling for him to learn from one of the best (Walters) to improve on that. Like my comments on Darcy (whose stats would also looked quite good but the results of which showed a different story), he and Henry play important roles and need to improve if we want to improve.
Fair enough, I know there's the "too fancy" Liam Henry story that goes around, but I'd just question the accuracy of your original take based on the weekend having just re-watched the game.Not calling for him to be delisted or something else dramatic, but watching Henry's last game caused me a number of frustrating moments (and I have never had any hate for him) and just calling for him to learn from one of the best (Walters) to improve on that. Like my comments on Darcy (whose stats would also looked quite good but the results of which showed a different story), he and Henry play important roles and need to improve if we want to improve.
Because I know you're a good poster, I'm going to keep going to bat for Henry here. People are too focused on his bad plays. He does still have the odd glaring clanger where he bites off too much but we all watched that game lamenting the lack of run or dare didnt we? At least Henry TRIES to get something working.
- Henry lead scoring involvements and his disposal efficiency (79%) was only bettered by Schultz, the backline who played kick to kick to each other and the key forwards who touched it about 4 times between themselves.
- He had 3 clangers in his 21 possessions (a clanger on 14.2% of his possessions), just over the team average of 13.5% of the day which included way way way too much safe football.
- While he didnt get credited a tackle, he had 18 pressure acts, 6th best for the team
Sometimes it doesnt come off but I'll take that and back the backline to do it's job if it means the forwards actually have a chance to score. The more players with Henry's approach to the game, the closer we get to playing like Collingwood.
Thank you my friend for also being old.
Henry was the very least of our problems. He should not be dropped.Because I know you're a good poster, I'm going to keep going to bat for Henry here. People are too focused on his bad plays. He does still have the odd glaring clanger where he bites off too much but we all watched that game lamenting the lack of run or dare didnt we? At least Henry TRIES to get something working.
- Henry lead scoring involvements and his disposal efficiency (79%) was only bettered by Schultz, the backline who played kick to kick to each other and the key forwards who touched it about 4 times between themselves.
- He had 3 clangers in his 21 possessions (a clanger on 14.2% of his possessions), just over the team average of 13.5% of the day which included way way way too much safe football.
- While he didnt get credited a tackle, he had 18 pressure acts, 6th best for the team
Sometimes it doesnt come off but I'll take that and back the backline to do it's job if it means the forwards actually have a chance to score. The more players with Henry's approach to the game, the closer we get to playing like Collingwood.
Can't speak as to exactly why he wasn't getting games last year, other than most likely not getting enough of it.There is a lot of focus on Henry but one question that hasn't been asked is what kind of distance did he run for the game? Personally I thought one of the key reasons he didn't get picked much last year (and part of the reason Hughes is playing as a wing this year) was because of his endurance levels and the fact they were trying to play him on the fat side. Obviously he got 21 possessions on 86% game time (his most ever for both categories?) but it sounds like he tired towards the end (eg. not being able to goal from 30m out).
It would be interesting to know because I can see them kicking him out of the team instead of Hughes for NOD (assuming available) if it is all about the kms travelled and he was beaten in that category.
So when the process is to do X when the oppo have specifically structured up to stop X, you just keep on banging away like an automaton?You don't get outcomes without process.
Process is here and now, while outcomes are future based and replete with uncontrollables.
Well that would all depend on the process. But if the process is refined enough it allows you to adjust it without being too reactive/jumpy.So when the process is to do X when the oppo have specifically structured up to stop X, you just keep on banging away like an automaton?
Or do you show some awareness and react to your surroundings?
Players ignore him so many times. He's rarely utilised properly.Question I have is why is Freddy such a protected species around here ?
Plays about 10 minutes of good football most games and then is invisible for the rest
I don't know much about cricket, but I am not sure that's true of all the best sports people or even all the best cricketersWell that would all depend on the process. But if the process is refined enough it allows you to adjust it without being too reactive/jumpy.
Collingwood, for example, is probably the most process driven side out there at the moment. They keep their process regardless of scoreboard and time of match.
The best sports people have always been more process driven (eg Bradman), it's just more widely communicated and adopted these days.