Preview Round 1 v Hawks (team listed #982 p40)

[Carringbush2010]

Have a quick look at our own history . . between the years 1917 to 1939.

While I agree with most of this post, anything before 1925 lessens the impact because there was not a full 12 team comp.

 

[Stoods]

I’d rather not rest Cox as you suggest.
There’s no point having a Cox if he just stoods still.
Better Cox is fresh, ready and energetic so early in the season.
Let him just get into it.
Last thing for mason is to be in and out
Of the side.
With Cox, being so big in this case, size does matter.

i see what you did there

 

[swoop42]

Windy, risk of thunderstorms and 70% chance of showers for Saturday night is the forecast currently.

Danger of shrinkage seems high.

 

[Bored_Pie]

Weather suits our game more. But they're going in much smaller.

 

[iGNITER]

Is Aish injured or available this week?

 

[jmac70]

Is Aish injured or available this week?

Injured, I think. They may give him a run in the VFL.

 

[10571z]

Reid and Cox both shouldn't play if wet. I'd like to see Buckley have the balls to sit one out if the weather is terrible.

But the mcg has to be seriously soaked to have a major effect on the game so unless it's bucketing down I'd keep them in.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Injured, I think. They may give him a run in the VFL.

Injured and playing!

(although I get your point.........I wont take you literally....)

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Reid and Cox both shouldn't play if wet. I'd like to see Buckley have the balls to sit one out if the weather is terrible.

But the mcg has to be seriously soaked to have a major effect on the game so unless it's bucketing down I'd keep them in.

Nah. Just play Grundy as a spare across half back knocking players over and bringing the ball to ground and give Cox more ruck time of conditions are wet during the game.

Much prefer them to play in all conditions, cyclones perhaps excepted.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Injured, I think. They may give him a run in the VFL.

Bucks said he is fine and available for selection.

 

[jonbe54]

While I agree with most of this post, anything before 1925 lessens the impact because there was not a full 12 team comp.

Carringbush just how far do we take that?

How about Melbourne's run in the '50's - that was with only 12 teams.
Carlton's run in the '70's and '80's - only 12 teams.
Hawthorn's amazing run after they got gifted Waverly - only 12 teams.

Why not discount Geelong's massive run recently because they are the only team to have their own private home ground which is surely a huge advantage?

We all know that every expansion club has had monstrous resources poured into them by the AFL and rule changes to ensure they were successful. So how about we discount all of those efforts??

Just where do we draw the line???

I'm stuffed if I know.

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Surely Hawks dont play Rioli, the guy started pre season two months late, and hasnt played any pre season games. I dont mind if he does, as l can see him spent by halftime.

 

[10571z]

Surely Hawks dont play Rioli, the guy started pre season two months late, and hasnt played any pre season games. I dont mind if he does, as l can see him spent by halftime.

Only needs to bob up a couple of times for a massive impact

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Only needs to bob up a couple of times for a massive impact

A goal is worth six points regardless. If he’s on one leg or might not see out the game then that’s a risk hawthorn have to consider.

I reckon he’ll be picked but not convinced he’lll play

 

[Dead Eye Didak]

Only needs to bob up a couple of times for a massive impact

Thats ok, l will have Murray on him and instruct him to run, run, run.

 

[Finnishpie]

I really liked what Crocker did late vs Dogs

I think Broomhead has a bit more pace and polish - but he didn’t perform in the second JLT so I can see why Crocker would get the gig.

 

[Finnishpie]

he USED to be a noted tackler. Doesnt have the pace or agility to be a dominant trackler anymore... which has also hampered his ability to win possessions & impose himself on the game in any other discipline.

Yeah, they game is just quicker and with more long distance running too. It’s just gone past him.

 

[10571z]

A goal is worth six points regardless. If he’s on one leg or might not see out the game then that’s a risk hawthorn have to consider.

I reckon he’ll be picked but not convinced he’lll play

Lol Rioli apprently has been flying for 6 weeks and isn't on "1 leg"

 

[Carringbush2010]

Carringbush just how far do we take that?

How about Melbourne's run in the '50's - that was with only 12 teams.
Carlton's run in the '70's and '80's - only 12 teams.
Hawthorn's amazing run after they got gifted Waverly - only 12 teams.

Why not discount Geelong's massive run recently because they are the only team to have their own private home ground which is surely a huge advantage?

We all know that every expansion club has had monstrous resources poured into them by the AFL and rule changes to ensure they were successful. So how about we discount all of those efforts??

Just where do we draw the line???

I'm stuffed if I know.

No you've read me wrong, it wasn't until 1925 that there was a full 12 team comp - before then it was varying between 4 and 10 so anything up until 1925 didn't have as much "impact" as it did after.

Probably would've been a better sample from 1925 to 1939 - in which we completely dominated I agree.

 

[WalterBlaknWhte]

I trust the word of my Collingwood brothers and sisters.
Except WalterBlaknWhte and CFC2010
Don't believe a word they say.

What did CFC2010 ever do to you, you dickhead?

Edit: re

 

[jonbe54]

No you've read me wrong, it wasn't until 1925 that there was a full 12 team comp - before then it was varying between 4 and 10 so anything up until 1925 didn't have as much "impact" as it did after.

Probably would've been a better sample from 1925 to 1939 - in which we completely dominated I agree.

It's hard to get context over the net but I get where you're coming from.

Too often younger supporters get into this 'cringe' mode about our club and it irritates the hell out of me. Those that do don't seem to understand that all this negative media stuff is carefully crafted to bring about internal dissent if at all possible.

The AFL despise us because of that period of total dominance - which is almost totally the work of one Jock McHale. Their lickspittle lap dogs in the form of the sporting media, do the dirty work the AFL can't afford to be seen doing and the Pies are kept under siege.

The point I was trying to get across to Spesh Ed and others is that the impact of Jock was competition wide.

Like many of the famous NFL coaches of yesteryear he could dissect a young guy and know exactly what made him tick, then slot him into the machine in exactly the right position to extract his best.

 

[CFC2010]

I can only go by what you guys say.
Actually we live in the information age so I could just google it but I trust the word of my Collingwood brothers and sisters.
Except WalterBlaknWhte and CFC2010
Don't believe a word they say.

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What did CFC2010 ever do to you, you dickhead?

Edit: re

Hey Turk refer below........hugs re

 

[CFC2010]

Too often younger supporters get into this 'cringe' mode about our club and it irritates the hell out of me. Those that do don't seem to understand that all this negative media stuff is carefully crafted to bring about internal dissent if at all possible.
The point I was trying to get across to Spesh Ed and others is that the impact of Jock was competition wide.

 

[jonbe54]

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https://www.eviscerati.org/comics/comic/hd/2012/02/Change-Changes-Sake

As the link demonstrates some of us are caught up in the belief that change for it's own sake is desirable.

How about we stop kicking the football and start dribbling it? That would be a change. . . . . . . oh yeah you're right - then it would be basketball wouldn't it?

Some things don't change and most of those things are to do with people QED.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

Booked my Saturday pre match dinner at the Vue De Monde.

Enjoy your fish n greasers everyone.

F I f luv yas re.