Preview Round 10, 2021: Carlton v Hawthorn, 22 May 2021, 1.45pm @ MCG

[westhawk]

Morris stiff.

Should have been straight in for Hanrahan

 

[Linda CRS]

Mixed messages on Brockman last week - did he miss with injury or illness or was he a no show ?

Think it might have been personal. Should be right to go.

 

[View from the nosebleed]

Happy with the ins, liked Greaves last year, and Reeves has been strong in the 2s, we need ruck back-up and a feature for Reeves has been hitouts to advantage, something we seriously lack.

The outs, both make sense and happy for each.

re: Hanrahan, he did kick 3 a couple of weeks back, and has shown glimpses of his class this year. Just hasn't been a consistant in said input across a full game.

I guess the one thing is, we want these kids to get a strong run in the side, we are doing that with Hanrahan.

 

[westhawk]

Like the ins of Reeves and Greeves. Think they are both long term prospects. Would have liked to see Morris in at the expense of Hanrahan. If Morris has another good game this week and Hanrahan plays like he usually does, then that swap will happen next week.

 

[Mercy Seat]

Hanrahan to take all the blame this week while Shiels and worpel stink it up again

Shiels was our best player last week according to the coaches votes. No chance he gets dropped.

Hanrahan the lucky one, but I'm sure he'll get some airtime in the gameday thread...

 

[Scooter_1968]

Brockman didn't play for Box Hill last week, so I couldn't see him coming in. I think Morris is unlucky.

Pleased for Reeves and Greaves.

Pleased TOB was dropped. Pleased Hartley was dropped. Pleased Howe isn't coming in.

Disappointed that Brockman has somehow missed out again.

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[HairyO]

I understand your point, but why are we playing the same way every week?

If the game plan isn’t working, then surely you change it up

We are a side that shouldn’t over-posses the footy, and go straight down the corridor to goal, but we don’t

Forwards are all in a cluster at the top of the goalsquare, no one leading, because we bomb it long there

You know it, I know it, so you can bet opposition coaches/players do too

We play the same every week because Clarko never throws kids in who arent ready. And the kids who are ready or should be close are injured. Day would for sure be in. If DGB had 8 weeks of games at Box Hill we would know if hes ready for Hawthorn.

Morris, Downie and Finn seem like they need more consistency. Jeka is looking good at BHH but clearly needs more time (and a midfield who can deliver). And Brockman was in and Im sure will beback again after the Bye.

Who else should be playing ?

 

[Mercy Seat]

I understand your point, but why are we playing the same way every week?

If the game plan isn’t working, then surely you change it up

We are a side that shouldn’t over-posses the footy, and go straight down the corridor to goal, but we don’t

Forwards are all in a cluster at the top of the goalsquare, no one leading, because we bomb it long there

You know it, I know it, so you can bet opposition coaches/players do too

Posters who have played a lot of footy or are close to the club try to explain this every week.

When you're young / low in confidence / down in form, or just ordinary compared to your opponents, you fall back on playing an ordinary brand of footy.

Defenders are copping 60+ forward entries from the opposition in recent games. Even if it's the game plan, their instinct is to avoid going straight down the guts, because they know it's just gonna come back in again. When you're getting slammed, your instinct is to turn to the slowest / high possession way of playing, which means hugging the boundary line, over possessing, etc. Survival instinct kicks in, and your main thought is, to avoid having the footy come straight back into defence.

We train for a fast pace, exciting brand of footy. You can head to Waverly and see this for yourself. And in bursts this year, we've pulled it off. But when momentum swings, we revert to a safe, awful brand of footy, and it's why Clarko goes nuts when you see it happening.

Truly believing that the club are blindly choosing to play this way is disingenuous at best.

 

[Bugs1977]

There ain’t never going to be a better time to play Reeves. Plus McEvoy could do with a week off.

Round 10 vs Carlton: Pittonet
Round 11 vs Gold Coast: Burgess

I mentioned in a post the week before last that my mates son saw Clarko at Metricon watching the Suns vs Saints game and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was scouting that game to see if the next stretch run of games would be good to give Ned a run. He’ll get to test himself against Pittonet / DeKoning this week a more than likely Zac Smith who’s back for GC this week. This is just classic Clarko thinking 2-3 steps ahead.

 

[JD1992]

Excited to see what Reeves can offer. Big Boy has been a warrior but has been battered by some of the better rucks over the past few weeks.

Greaves did everything right last year so very happy to see him get a crack. Hopefully it means Impey and/or Scrim play more midfield minutes.

The cleanest of hands for Scrimshaw plus his lateral step I am interested to see him play more midfield to see if he can, as taller, reasonable pace, good luck, a difference in our midfield.
Impy more straight line runner with not as clean hands, not sure that aligns to regular minutes in midfield.

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[chopflop]

BB to play back?

Ollie damn lucky to keep his spot for mine.

Thinks so. Only frost and hartigan down there and no TOB to chop out

 

[Charchi]

In 2005 and 06 we played some horrible games as the team got used to a new style, Glenn Archer described us as the most unaccountable team he had ever played against the day that Clinton Young debuted against him on a wing at Docklands. Little did we all know that the style that won us a premiership in 2008 was a work in progress.

There are some fundamentals that aren’t working at present like a poor centre square set up so hopefully we use Reeves as the center bounce ruckman and BB for the around the ground work in which Reeves isn’t built for yet and Greaves being in frees up either Jars or Hardwick for some centre square run. I’d also like to see CJ on the wing because teams are trying to drag him back when he’s playing on the back flank.

 

[Mercy Seat]

In 2005 and 06 we played some horrible games as the team got used to a new style, Glenn Archer described us as the most unaccountable team he had ever played against the day that Clinton Young debuted against him on a wing at Docklands. Little did we all know that the style that won us a premiership in 2008 was a work in progress.

There are some fundamentals that aren’t working at present like a poor centre square set up so hopefully we use Reeves as the center bounce ruckman and BB for the around the ground work in which Reeves isn’t built for yet and Greaves being in frees up either Jars or Hardwick for some centre square run. I’d also like to see CJ on the wing because teams are trying to drag him back when he’s playing on the back flank.

The "game plan" got slammed back then too, and a lot of people had serious doubts about Clarko.

 

[CHUBBSS]

Team balance on paper starting to look
Alright, big fan of the ins.

I’d say after the break it will look even better to.

I can’t wait to see reeves win a tap and put it straight into to space of the mids

 

[TheFourPillars]

I remember games where we used to turn it over quite often while trying to switch to the fat side. A game plan needs practice

 

[Hawk_francais]

Reeves is the only player on our list with the abilty to turn our fortunes around (no pressure). We just need a circuit-breaker in the middle. I’m excited to see what he can do. His selection is a double whammy, as we’ll see McEvoy in the backline where he could really dominate Carlton’s forward line which is honestly not much chop outside of McKay.

Hanrahan is simply lucky that they obviously wanted to limit the changes at selection, otherwise the swap for Morris was obvious.

 

[Spursfan]

Excited with the ins. Can't stand these campaigners, let's do this

 

[Judd2Sewell]

The "game plan" got slammed back then too, and a lot of people had serious doubts about Clarko.

Yes it was questioned at the time, especially early days like in 05/06. The cluster worked for a brief period but was found out after 08.

Clarko eventually adapted though, and we became a much better team in the end.

Right now the game plan looks just like a poor version of yesteryear's game plan. There hasn't been that large noticeable shift as yet.

 

[HairyO]

Reeves is the only player on our list with the abilty to turn our fortunes around (no pressure). We just need a circuit-breaker in the middle. I’m excited to see what he can do. His selection is a double whammy, as we’ll see McEvoy in the backline where he could really dominate Carlton’s forward line which is honestly not much chop outside of McKay.

Hanrahan is simply lucky that they obviously wanted to limit the changes at selection, otherwise the swap for Morris was obvious.

Day and Sicily playing and our Half Back is elite.

Morris kicked a bundle against witches hats. I assume he was told he had a great game and to do it again and then he is in the mix for seniors.

Clarko rarely drops someone after 1 bad game and rarely promotes someone after 1 good game.

 

[manB]

Like ins this time, always wondered why Greaves was kept out considering his wand season form.

Wonder why people hate Hanrahan so much definitely have some class with ball in his hand and knows where goals are. Also he is playing for his career, so happy to give him some chance.

 

[cuttlefish]

I was at the game where Robbie Campbell played full back on Fevola. Roughead kicked a bag (Buddy was missing through injury from recollection) and Fev missed a shot at goal to win it, as it grazed the post. It was an old fashioned shout-out between two full forwards. I'm not sure Lewis or Kosi could get the service to keep up with Harry.

we were right in line behind Fev when he kicked that one that shaved the post. He was on fire that night. We definitely dodged a bullet that night.

 

[Jazzfan]

Posters who have played a lot of footy or are close to the club try to explain this every week.

When you're young / low in confidence / down in form, or just ordinary compared to your opponents, you fall back on playing an ordinary brand of footy.

Defenders are copping 60+ forward entries from the opposition in recent games. Even if it's the game plan, their instinct is to avoid going straight down the guts, because they know it's just gonna come back in again. When you're getting slammed, your instinct is to turn to the slowest / high possession way of playing, which means hugging the boundary line, over possessing, etc. Survival instinct kicks in, and your main thought is, to avoid having the footy come straight back into defence.

We train for a fast pace, exciting brand of footy. You can head to Waverly and see this for yourself. And in bursts this year, we've pulled it off. But when momentum swings, we revert to a safe, awful brand of footy, and it's why Clarko goes nuts when you see it happening.

Truly believing that the club are blindly choosing to play this way is disingenuous at best.

On record... We have 'pulled it off' when we are chasing tail and not playing our game plan. Again, listen to Brendan Bolton last week pre-game on this. This is not our desire.

As for the 'played a lot of footy'... ha. It doesn't make you sound good if honest mate. I'm sure people have played a lot of footy that have contradictory views. I played a lot of footy, but in the grand scheme of things? I'm another shit kicker with a view on here. No better. No worse.

As for the 'close to the club'... well, perhaps that's the issue. It does very much seem the posters that are at Waverly, as fans, do come in hard and fast on any negativity.... some, I would argue are paid employees also. I love in my work 180 feedback. I'm better because of it.

 

[Milkshaker]

Hanrahan to take all the blame this week while Shiels and worpel stink it up again

Had 22 whipping boys last week. Heaps of options this year so far. No sure what games Mercy Seat has been watching.

 

[Mercy Seat]

On record... We have 'pulled it off' when we are chasing tail and not playing our game plan. Again, listen to Brendan Bolton last week pre-game on this. This is not our desire.

As for the 'played a lot of footy'... ha. It doesn't make you sound good if honest mate. I'm sure people have played a lot of footy that have contradictory views. I played a lot of footy, but in the grand scheme of things? I'm another sh*t kicker with a view on here. No better. No worse.

As for the 'close to the club'... well, perhaps that's the issue. It does very much seem the posters that are at Waverly, as fans, do come in hard and fast on any negativity.... some, I would argue are paid employees also. I love in my work 180 feedback. I'm better because of it.

LOL, yeah I'm sure the club are spending that soft cap on having employees try drum up TOB and our game plan to a bunch of Bigfooty posters...

 

[Jazzfan]

LOL, yeah I'm sure the club are spending that soft cap on having employees try drum up TOB and our game plan to a bunch of Bigfooty posters...

Is Marketing and Sales under the soft cap?

I'd also argue that our big footy posters are probably our most passionate supporters.... key stakeholders. Also, hence my previous point.