AFL Autopsy Round 16 08/07/2018: 16 Point loss to Collingwood

[Squeaky]

I’m relationto our teams terrible free kick differential of late, is it possible our players just don’t understand the rules? A few years back it was pointed out that the dogs had a massive positive free kick differential. Turns out they were just training the players to not give away free kicks, unlike all other clubs.

Is the remedy as simple as training our players to understand and play within the rules?

That's possible. But the way it seemed to be ruled for one and not the other I'd rather the club put in a please explain first.
These last three weeks have flattened me.

 

[Zach Package]

Reactions in this thread either show alarming lack of self awareness about where we are at or severely underrate how close to Richmond Collingwood in this kind of mood actually is, the differences are miniscule and in several areas I think the pies are actually better.

The fact that we went with them for so long given the weather and how poor selection was for us really speaks volumes with how far we have come in terms of pressure and contested stuff.

Also we got a complete an utter ****ing from the men in green for the 3rd week running. No two ways about it

 

[EnolaGay]

Outclassed in the last qrt, game was on the line and we couldn't muster anything. They deserved the win really.

Agree - needed a massive last quarter from Bellcho but unfortunately Grundy killed him. Grundy is playing at an awesome level this season.

 

[Westlo]

I would keep Long in for at least one more game, see if he can get up to speed with the AFL game. He did a few nice things which is more than I can say about Coyler.

Want

Francis for Ambrose
Fantasia for Coyler

Expecting

Dea for Ambrose
Fantasia for Long

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Last quarter was the least of our problems, we were all over them for three quarters and couldn’t put it on the board. Not surprised they ran out better than us as we’d punched too many tickets.

Positives are our pressure is still awesome, Richmond like around the ball. Need to take the next step and start using the extra numbers out the back of the contest to earn easy goals. Too often we get goal side and still kick to a one on one.

 

[brutus76]

What a shit comment. Thought Long was good today and one of a handful of players that actually work hard to lay tackles and scrap for the ball. Better off bagging passengers like Goddard and Baguley.

Agree - put his body on the line, had a dip and tried to take the game on and break the line. And his tackles stuck. Had more tackles than Langford, Goddard and Pidgeon combined.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

that ladies and gentleman is the reason why smack cant get a spot in the side on his own merit.

Guy is such a potato at times.

 

[Wangawuti]

We had control for large portions of that game but just missed opportunities at the most inopportune moments. Nobody stood up to deliver the knockout punch.
Pies were all class in the 4th and hats off to Grundy.
IMO Dea was the backline cover that allowed Saad and Mckenna to attack with confidence over the last few weeks and we really missed the drive out of the back half today.
Finals are a long shot but I don't want the team to stop building what they started in the second half of the year.

 

[Knight Ryders]

Geez you talk poo - have a look at Dev's 10+ tackles alone for tackles stuck.

The main problem is the umps hardly paid a single HTB our way but that's been the norm for weeks.

Disagree actually. Thought we tackled well, but Collingwood tackled better. They got their hands free more and they trapped our space better than we did. We weren't allowed to run forward much today

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Disagree actually. Thought we tackled well, but Collingwood tackled better. They got their hands free more and they trapped our space better than we did. We weren't allowed to run forward much today

Need to hire a tackling coach in the offseason

 

[SherbertLemon]

I presume the two goals you mean were when he got caught HTB.

Would love to see some down the ground vision cause it didn't look like he had any support or options. He seemed to look for them

You're correct. As is the same with Colyer's moment of idiocy. When you don't see an option.

GET
RID
OF
THE
BALL.

Don't derp around waiting to get stung. Even barrel it forward to let the defenders reset, kick it long to the boundary to force a contest.

All of that is better than getting caugh HTB

 

[Jacques_]

Eh, thought we were okay. Really think we lack a player who can be called on to negate a dominate opposition midfielder. Sidebottom is far too good to be left to run his own race.

Play the kids for the rest of the season & prepare for a huge 2019.

 

[Beerfish]

Haven't read the thread. Has anyone mentioned the umpiring yet? We seem to get a different set of rules to the other team each week lately. Well done to the lads for managing to stay in the contest for so long despite them.

 

[quotemokc]

Didn't like seeing Goddard in defense for most of the day.

 

[SherbertLemon]

Haven't read the thread. Has anyone mentioned the umpiring yet? We seem to get a different set of rules to the other team each week lately. Well done to the lads for managing to stay in the contest for so long despite them.

Haven't read anything relating to the umps yet. Can confirm this is a new piece of insight.

 

[mxett]

What? We can more than match a number of top 8 teams

in patches only

 

[Zach Package]

You're correct. As is the same with Colyer's moment of idiocy. When you don't see an option.

GET
RID
OF
THE
BALL.

Don't derp around waiting to get stung. Even barrel it forward to let the defenders reset, kick it long to the boundary to force a contest.

All of that is better than getting caugh HTB

Found the bloke yelling at Stanton from the cheap seats

 

[citizen-erased]

Replay worth watching?
wasn't able to attend or watch. Snuck a few looks at the score during the day

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

in patches only

The last 7 weeks were on par with at least half top 8 teams

 

[eth-dog]

Replay worth watching?
wasn't able to attend or watch. Snuck a few looks at the score during the day

First 3 quarters were.

 

[Keystone agony]

The difference was simply Ambrose, Fantasia and Free kicks.

Not a bad performance at all.

Still feel we need a gun midfielder inside the contest. Throw everything we have at Dylan Shiel next year

 

[SherbertLemon]

Found the bloke yelling at Stanton from the cheap seats

I understand player will be caught trying to create a play. But being caught while gaping around for an option on the spot isn't a good look.

I'm sorry you will settle for less and cop that kind of shit. I don't think it's a good look for two players on the fringe.

 

[mike14]

Pretty much went the way you'd expect a game like that to go, given the ins and outs for both teams and respective positions on the ladder.
For the most part observations are very similiar to what we've seen for most of the year; our disposal is often quite poor in both option and execution, especially by foot, your defensive running/awareness is below average, our decision making is poor, our midfield isn't good enough.

I though Merrett was pretty good, Smith was good (some poor kicks), Langford did some nice things, Brown was good.
Hurley's disposal continues to be shithouse (and those 2 dropped chest marks...), Colyer provides nothing useful, Bauley's effort can't be faulted but we need to see what other options we have, Heppell is a good player let down by his disposal, Fanatasia is incredibly important to our chances of success.

I don't remember McNiece actually doing anything, and I'm not bagging him, I just seemed to lose light of him. How did he go?

I'd actually give Long another game or two. He clearly knows how to find the footy and put himself in good spots, but he disposal/decision making was crap. As he's not alone in this I'd like to see whether it's something that he can correct as he gets used to the pace of AFL footy

 

[fishardansin]

Guys, stop quoting idiots who troll please.

Ok.

You don't listen do you!! lol

 

[TheGrizz]

You're correct. As is the same with Colyer's moment of idiocy. When you don't see an option.

GET
RID
OF
THE
BALL.

Don't derp around waiting to get stung. Even barrel it forward to let the defenders reset, kick it long to the boundary to force a contest.

All of that is better than getting caugh HTB

Your right.

As shown by the Richmond, Carlton, Hawthorn and ANZAC day games, dump kicking it to a wall of opposition players lined up across the middle of the ground is a far more effective option.