Review Round 18, 2024 - West Coast vs. Brisbane Lions

[Elixuh]

Surprised we didn’t get the umpire to explain why they didn’t pay a free kick.

I don't think its very strong evidence. Plenty of possibilities - happens in a split second, how much did the ump see, umps routinely make errors etc

I know they don't count it anymore but Duggan's explanation of what he was trying to do in the tackle would be the most persuasive for a case like this (if it was helpful to us of course).

 

[Pride of lions]

Surprised we didn’t get the umpire to explain why they didn’t pay a free kick.

According to Josh Dunckley today,the officiating umpire told the players on the day that it was a perfect tackle!

 

[Hollow Knight]

The first tribunal hearing should be the one comprised of ex-footballers.

The second one should be the one full of lawyers considering most of the grounds for a second appeal are limited to process and errors of law.

 

[Dalions]

It seems to me to be a clear shift in the AFL’s thinking, to avoid liability in the future they want to shift it back onto the players.
So eventually all liability will be on the players themselves.
If they concuss someone they are the ones fully responsible.
Yuk!

 

[Elixuh]

The first tribunal hearing should be the one comprised of ex-footballers.

The second one should be the one full of lawyers considering most of the grounds for a second appeal are limited to process and errors of law.

Imagine trying to explain a point of law to the push up king. He'd probably be a model applicant's tribunal member tbh - easily confused and sides with the player.

 

[Hollow Knight]

It seems to me to be a clear shift in the AFL’s thinking, to avoid liability in the future they want to shift it back onto the players.
So eventually all liability will be on the players themselves.
If they concuss someone they are the ones fully responsible.
Yuk!

“Okay Gladiators, you are expected to fight to the death in the arena today, but for legal purposes, if someone gets hurt, it’s your fault. Now go on! Entertain us!”

 

[Pride of lions]

They have probably made up their minds already and are just extending the deliberation for show.

Probably all getting paid on an hourly rate,drag it out as long as possible

 

[martinson]

It seems to me to be a clear shift in the AFL’s thinking, to avoid liability in the future they want to shift it back onto the players.
So eventually all liability will be on the players themselves.
If they concuss someone they are the ones fully responsible.
Yuk!

Well they don't want to take any legal responsibility for anything that happens in a game in case it costs them money.

Which is a very conceited position to take.

 

[werdna78]

It seems to me to be a clear shift in the AFL’s thinking, to avoid liability in the future they want to shift it back onto the players.
So eventually all liability will be on the players themselves.
If they concuss someone they are the ones fully responsible.
Yuk!

I don't think that'll work. I think they need to extend the mandatory time off and if you have more than 1 in a certain time, there should be at least another week added.

Duggan has now had 2 concussions in a month, he probably shouldn't play for at least 4 weeks, maybe the rest of the year.

The onus will be on the AFL to protect players and teams from themselves.

And we can't play AFL without tackling, how silly would that look.

 

[Nunez]

This'll either be overturned or taken further by the club. Impossible to enforce this ridiculous suspension.

 

[Hollow Knight]

This'll either be overturned or taken further by the club. Impossible to enforce this ridiculous suspension.

Wonder if the Tribunal are trying to find some way to give him a week rather than let him off completely…

 

[Dalions]

I don't think that'll work. I think they need to extend the mandatory time off and if you have more than 1 in a certain time, there should be at least another week added.

Duggan has now had 2 concussions in a month, he probably shouldn't play for at least 4 weeks, maybe the rest of the year.

The onus will be on the AFL to protect players and teams from themselves.

And we can't play AFL without tackling, how silly would that look.

I agree but it just feels as though the AFL are putting all onus on the players and it feels as though we are heading down a dark path imo.

 

[Nunez]

Wonder if the Tribunal are trying to find some way to give him a week rather than let him off completely…

You can't even argue it's worth a week tbh. This isn't a negotiation, it's either a dangerous tackle as they describe and if it's not they can't concede some ground and say "but he should have sat him down or not tripped or let go of the tackle". It's nonsensical.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Soon it'll be a free kick if the tackle doesn't result in the ball carrier sitting down

 

[mpal6]

Soon it'll be a free kick if the tackle doesn't result in the ball carrier sitting down

Sit down and have a cup of tea.
To hell with the game I say.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Upheld. Un****ingbelievable.

 

[TheMan_Bun]

Upheld. What a farce.

 

[M Malice]

Sorry for the profanity but that is a F... ING joke.... we simply must take this to the next appeal stage.

 

[martinson]

3 games is a huge slice for that.

Very disappointing.

Charlie's the victim here.

 

[braddsey]

Message to players: don't tackle.
Message to fans: don't complain when tackles don't stick. Get used to corralling players.
Message to AFL: GFYS.
(is yourself / your self one or two words?)

 

[Squizz89]

Lol if that’s how they’re going to adjudicate those tackles moving forward, then good luck having anyone watching the game in 10 years time.

 

[braddsey]

The should just scrap the other 2 tribunal hearings tonight. A complete waste of time.

 

[martinson]

I don't want to slander anybody but this is a bit stinky.

No one who's ever played the game would suspend anyone for that.

 

[Hollow Knight]

I bet they already know they are going to let Bedford off and that it will be enough to satiate the masses.

Charlie is the one who will suffer so they can keep the system ambiguous enough to keep doing whatever the **** they want.

 

[Nunez]

Honestly stuff like this makes you want to stop following this sport. This administration is a complete and utter joke. The sport is cooked.