Preview Round 5, 2021: St.Kilda v Richmond - Marvel Stadium, Thursday 15th April, 7:20PM AEST *MADDIE'S MATCH* *CARLISLE 150TH*

[tomjoad]

Anyone seen this? I was feeling good coming up against the tigs but now not so sure

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Well it doesn't work like that...so no worries.

 

[stfan]

Anyone seen this? I was feeling good coming up against the tigs but now not so sure

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So a team leads all day, but loses the game in the last few minutes. With that system you have the winner with one point and the loser with 3.

What matters in sport is who is in front at the finish.


With your system:

• Steven Bradbury does not even medal.
• Boxing matches won by knock outs are awarded to the unconscious boxer if in front on points.
• etc

 

[jwikked]

So a team leads all day, but loses the game in the last few minutes. With that system you have the winner with one point and the loser with 3.

What matters in sport is who is in front at the finish.


With your system:

• Steven Bradbury does not even medal.
• Boxing matches won by knock outs are awarded to the unconscious boxer if in front on points.
• etc

It’s not meant to be a suggestion to change the ladder format, it’s just an interesting statistic laid out for discussion.

 

[GTrains Love Child]

Anyone seen this? I was feeling good coming up against the tigs but now not so sure

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Lucky there’s only one quarter that counts on the actual ladder

 

[St Kilda Senators]

Lucky there’s only one quarter that counts on the actual ladder

And that is also the one quarter that teams actually play to win. Team's aren't going to play super aggressive down by a goal with 30 seconds left in the 1st, but they will in the 4th.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Feel like coffield is being asked to do more than ever before really.

Anyone seen this? I was feeling good coming up against the tigs but now not so sure

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Being 2 & 2 despite winning the fewest quarters is probably more a reflection that our best footy is seriously damaging if anything.

 

[bird_man]

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Is anyone able to share this article about Marshall?

 

[BrutThough]

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Marshall left the field in the Saints’ stunning victory over West Coast with foot soreness but returned to help the club get its season back on track in a comeback from 33 points down.

The Herald Sun understands that injury was actually him snapping the tissue which runs along the bottom of the foot and connects the heel bone to the toes.

In the long run, Marshall might be helped by the resolution of an injury that meant he was sore for much of the summer.

But St Kilda has only five days to recover from that victory, so Marshall will be sore for several days.

The Saints are aware he might not yet be ready to take on a 2-2 Richmond side that bounced back to form but could not quite overcome Port Adelaide.

St Kilda champion Robert Harvey famously jumped off his kitchen table to “release” his plantar fascia but a full rupture does cause bruising and soreness immediately afterwards.

Jack Sinclair told Nine on Sunday the Saints had ramped up their physicality after a tough week on the track.

Coach Brett Ratten was thrilled the Saints had been composed enough to pull out a superb fighting win.

“It was really pleasing to think what we dished up last week, to then play like that and stick to the task,” Ratten said.

“We could have given up, but the players knew what they did last week; win, lose or draw, we have to bring that.
“That was a bit of a blueprint. We‘re going to lose games of footy, every team does, it’s just how you go about it.
“We weren’t pleased last week and to see the response was really pleasing … (especially) the pressure and the hunt around the footy.”

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Big Ro scoffs at soreness and bruising.

 

[#gosaintas]

Big Ro scoffs at soreness and bruising.

can go any soreness

 

[The Punter]

On the quarters thingy, we're 4-12 over the four games. In both games we won, we won two quarters and lost two. Obviously we lost all four against Essendon, but we also lost all four against Melbourne (by two, two, thirteen and three points). So, in fact, we lost ten consecutive quarters between Rounds 2 and 4.

Even under Richo we could score in bunches. It's the ability to stop the other team doing the same that we've had problems with.

 

[LiterallyNobody]

They had a quarters ladder mid last year where Carlton was on top. That’s the thing though. It doesn’t go by how many quarters you have won. It’s who is in front at the final siren.

this proves we can score quickly and get in front.

more also important to note that this week was the first time this year where we didn’t give any goals away in red time in the third and fourth quarter. That’s another thing I’d like to see continue.

 

[#gosaintas]

They had a quarters ladder mid last year where Carlton was on top. That’s the thing though. It doesn’t go by how many quarters you have won. It’s who is in front at the final siren.

this proves we can score quickly and get in front.

more also important to note that this week was the first time this year where we didn’t give any goals away in red time in the third and fourth quarter. That’s another thing I’d like to see continue.

Any ladder post the VFL era that features Carlton on top by definition means you want to be down the bottom

 

[gringo2011]

Anyone seen this? I was feeling good coming up against the tigs but now not so sure

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Considering we have played one good quarter for the year it's not that surprising. At least it was the last one we played.

 

[Roddy Grant]

Anyone seen this? I was feeling good coming up against the tigs but now not so sure

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Wow - so once we can string it together for even 2 quarters in a game then we will likely be premiers?

 

[leph]

The quarters split is pretty arbitrary. Quarters are not created equally. As others have pointed out, it’s only the game as a whole that counts, so that’s how it should be considered because a Q1 is not the same as a Q4.

You could get the same arbitrary results by splitting the points into eighths of a game, or sixteenths, or individual minutes - you get the point. I’m not worried about it at all.

 

[gringo2011]

The confidence we got from that last quarter and half will be massive also. It's worth a lot more than a couple of points either way in a shit match.

 

[LiterallyNobody]

As exciting as the win was last weekend, it’s not enough to satiate me.

I want to play like that and win like that every weekend. We outscored west coast by 53 points in less than a half of footy. If we could bottle that and reproduce it every week but at the start of the game we’d go a long way to winning a lot of games.

momentum is huge in games and when you get to big leads it’s hard for teams to get back into it unless you let them in. So don’t let them in.

I think the first quarter is absolutely crucial.We’ve conceded the first two goals in every game this year so far. We need to get off to a fast start and put the pressure on them and say to them “right, what are you going to do?”

the last thing I want is for this to be a one game wonder.

for instance after the Richmond game in 2017 we lost the next three matches. From 9-6 we went to 9-9 and then eventually 11-11 only eking out a narrow win over west coast and a thumping win over north in Roo’s last game at Docklands.

I was worried about this at half time. Leading by 82 points against a very good top four hopeful in Richmond I was concerned about being able to keep it up... already thinking about Essendon in a week and dreading playing them because of the hype. Who else would think like that when you are 82 points up at half time?

So is it the same old story? Are we the same old saints? We’ll know by the end of Thursday that’s for sure. That type of pressure is going to be difficult to replicate but if we can.....the Sky is the limit.

 

[#gosaintas]

As exciting as the win was last weekend, it’s not enough to satiate me.

I want to play like that and win like that every weekend. We outscored west coast by 53 points in less than a half of footy. If we could bottle that and reproduce it every week but at the start of the game we’d go a long way to winning a lot of games.

momentum is huge in games and when you get to big leads it’s hard for teams to get back into it unless you let them in. So don’t let them in.

I think the first quarter is absolutely crucial.We’ve conceded the first two goals in every game this year so far. We need to get off to a fast start and put the pressure on them and say to them “right, what are you going to do?”

the last thing I want is for this to be a one game wonder.

for instance after the Richmond game in 2017 we lost the next three matches. From 9-6 we went to 9-9 and then eventually 11-11 only eking out a narrow win over west coast and a thumping win over north in Roo’s last game at Docklands.

I was worried about this at half time. Leading by 82 points against a very good top four hopeful in Richmond I was concerned about being able to keep it up... already thinking about Essendon in a week and dreading playing them because of the hype. Who else would think like that when you are 82 points up at half time?

So is it the same old story? Are we the same old saints? We’ll know by the end of Thursday that’s for sure. That type of pressure is going to be difficult to replicate but if we can.....the Sky is the limit.

I reckon you speak for everybody from the coach down. Who TF knows which version of StKilda will turn up.

 

[LiterallyNobody]

Richmond thinking if bring back Daniel Rioli

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Daniel Rioli

Age

27

Ht

179cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.2

3star

K

5.8

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.7

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

179.2

3star

D

8.1

2star

K

4.9

2star

HB

3.3

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.6

4star

MG

144.9

3star

D

9.0

3star

K

3.8

2star

HB

5.2

4star

M

0.8

1star

T

3.8

5star

MG

160.2

3star

for our match. God I hope they do.

 

[KingsRansom]

Richmond thinking if bring back Daniel Rioli for our match. God I hope they do.

I bloody hope not, hes in the bailey fritch mould of "inept players stkilda make to look like stars"

 

[Munga]

What's the point of a plantar fascia if it's fine and better to snap it? Do you lose any balance or power? Or should we call it the foot appendix?

 

[LiterallyNobody]

I bloody hope not, hes in the bailey fritch mould of "inept players stkilda make to look like stars"

It’s a risk I’m willing to take. He won’t kick four goals like meep meep did this week.

 

[George]

What's the point of a plantar fascia if it's fine and better to snap it? Do you lose any balance or power? Or should we call it the foot appendix?

He would be out for 12 weeks if he didn't completely tear it.

 

[malevu]

They had a quarters ladder mid last year where Carlton was on top. That’s the thing though. It doesn’t go by how many quarters you have won. It’s who is in front at the final siren.

this proves we can score quickly and get in front.

more also important to note that this week was the first time this year where we didn’t give any goals away in red time in the third and fourth quarter. That’s another thing I’d like to see continue.

They had a quarters ladder mid last year where Carlton was on top. That’s the thing though. It doesn’t go by how many quarters you have won. It’s who is in front at the final siren.

this proves we can score quickly and get in front.

more also important to note that this week was the first time this year where we didn’t give any goals away in red time in the third and fourth quarter. That’s another thing I’d like to see continue.

In 2009 we were in front in the GF at quarter time, half time and 3/4 time and also with 5 mins to go. Yet the Cats took the trophy home.

I know what I'd rather.