Preview Round 6, 2024: North v Hawks, 4pm 21st April, Marvel Stadium

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Troll stuff - good grief, at least respond in an adult fashion.

So the whole crux of your argument is that James Sicily gets free pass because:

We have no other defenders

He's Captain.

And that means you can ignore:

He doesn't lead.

He doesn't organise.

He doesn't inspire.

And most importantly he is in the worst form of his career.

That's your rationale?

It's about as sound as Clarkos logic of playing Poppy when he was cooked 'because he was good 4 years ago' and making Stratton Captain 'because he doesn't argue'.....

I don't care if Sicily is a Brownlow medalist - being Captain doesn't spare you from the axe.

Don't forget we happily dropped the last Brownlow medalist we had when he was playing badly yeah?

Honestly - right here is a prime example of what happens if there are no consequences for your actions - Sicily can't be dropped because he is Captain.

Good grief.

Sicily has been poor by his own standards. By the standards of the other 22 players on the field he is still one of our better players.

He's been given an immense defensive workload and it is significantly impacting his offensive and intercepting output. All things considered, our D50 hasn't been that bad.

I've never seen statistics from a starting midfield as bad as I did against the GC. The changes we make need to start there.

 

[TylerDurden]

Got a feeling Sam will bring the cavalry back. He can't afford to drop this one. Lewis, Breust, Gunston, CJ could all come in.

 

[burner1]

Whatever form we had in the 2nd half vs the pies didn’t carry over to the suns. Dunno what happens this week.

Is both teams best chance of a win. And loser will get a heap of media scrutiny. Would be highly disappointing if we don’t crack in.

Harry and Gunston likely come in but that’s largely short term fix.

 

[smithomode]

Thought I'd say I'm kind of sick of Mitch Lewis being slowly/carefully returned. If he's ok, bring him in, if he's not start the surgery. None of this waiting to be safe - if he's going to get injured, he's going to get injured. Why are we delaying the inevitable?

 

[Lickmesocks]

If Lewis returns, Ramma Lewis and Chol could well kick 15 goals between them. North have conceded bags to all of their Key Fwd opponents all year.

15 .

If they kicked 6 between them all it would be a miracle the way our mids kick it to them.

 

[rdhopkins2]

Let’s pack the place out.
50,000 on a Sunday arvo at Marvel.
Clarko v Mitch
Be there to witness the birth of greatness as the baby Hawks grow their wings on their way to a premiership in 2027!

2024 ladder…
Both winless
17th v 18th
Hawks 64.8%
NM 55.5%

Sun arvo 4pm game

 

[barbster]

The message there is that he should not be captain. Very poor choice.

He did well as captain last year, but going forward I would like someone like Will Day to take over.

 

[barbster]

While the talk of Sicily being dropped is about…. I’ll take the opportunity to sneak another one in. Mitch and Roughy to shop Lewis about in the hunt for a better list.
We had no problem flicking Thompson, Croad and Rawlings with a long term view in mind. All had better output for the Hawks than the invalid that is Lewis.
There I said it.

Lewis definitely better than what Rawlings was.

 

[Platten44]

While the talk of Sicily being dropped is about…. I’ll take the opportunity to sneak another one in. Mitch and Roughy to shop Lewis about in the hunt for a better list.
We had no problem flicking Thompson, Croad and Rawlings with a long term view in mind. All had better output for the Hawks than the invalid that is Lewis.
There I said it.

Thompson and Rawlings requested trades, were not pushed out like Croad.

 

[smish]

Very real chance we lose this. I think it's probably 60/40 in our favor.

 

[Sturty]

Get CJ back in and put Amon where he should be - ON THE WING

 

[Mrzohs]

Any chance we can win the tackle count this week? Hunt the opposition!

 

[Ned Ryerson]

I thought one of the benefits of no longer having Clarko was that players would get played in position more often than not. Hardwick is a good forward but he is a great defender. Play him in defence. Amon is an AA squad member on the wing - play him on the wing. If we are going to be below average can we at least let players play in the positions in which they are above average in please!

 

[SpanishBrowne]

Got a feeling Sam will bring the cavalry back. He can't afford to drop this one. Lewis, Breust, Gunston, CJ could all come in.

wish chad was ready too.

 

[Flamin Joe]

I thought one of the benefits of no longer having Clarko was that players would get played in position more often than not. Hardwick is a good forward but he is a great defender. Play him in defence. Amon is an AA squad member on the wing - play him on the wing. If we are going to be below average can we at least let players play in the positions in which they are above average in please!

This is something which I cannot fathom from Sam. I read on here that during training one time when Clarko was in charge and Mitchell being assistant that he saw Nash training with the forwards and was perplexed as to why he was there. Well Sam, were perplexed as to why Amon is in defence!

We are struggling and the last thing we need to be doing is hamstringing ourselves further by playing guys out of their position.

 

[Kanga Commando]

Any chance we can win the tackle count t this week? Hunt the opposition.

 

[Tanami]

I would of thought Roughy and Ratten being back at the club would have made a huge difference.

It hasn't.

Is the Captain the right person to inspire his team.

Will day interview on 3aw weeks back gave me the impression Hardwick is the players choice.

A loss to Clarko this week ....sheesh Sam better have broad shoulders.

 

[lethalselbow]

Troll stuff - good grief, at least respond in an adult fashion.

So the whole crux of your argument is that James Sicily gets free pass because:

We have no other defenders

He's Captain.

And that means you can ignore:

He doesn't lead.

He doesn't organise.

He doesn't inspire.

And most importantly he is in the worst form of his career.

That's your rationale?

It's about as sound as Clarkos logic of playing Poppy when he was cooked 'because he was good 4 years ago' and making Stratton Captain 'because he doesn't argue'.....

I don't care if Sicily is a Brownlow medalist - being Captain doesn't spare you from the axe.

Don't forget we happily dropped the last Brownlow medalist we had when he was playing badly yeah?

Honestly - right here is a prime example of what happens if there are no consequences for your actions - Sicily can't be dropped because he is Captain.

Good grief.

He doesn't lead, organise or inspire? You're saying he does none of those things. That's complete rot. A fair bit more goes into the role of captaincy then the snippets you see on television.

There's a lot of garbage coming up in these threads, with people trying to out do each other on who or how many need to be dropped. Your post is right up there.

If you are going to make such "bold" claims, please say who comes in as captain and who takes his spot.

 

[lethalselbow]

I would of thought Roughy and Ratten being back at the club would have made a huge difference.

It hasn't.

Is the Captain the right person to inspire his team.

Will day interview on 3aw weeks back gave me the impression Hardwick is the players choice.

A loss to Clarko this week ....sheesh Sam better have broad shoulders.

Really? What was the interview where Will Day gives the "impression" that Hardwick is the players choice of captain.

 

[matey]

Interesting game. If we win it’s like we only beat Norf but if we lose ………

I’m not really concerned about the result to be honest given the year we’ve had I’m more interested in seeing good signs like how hard we go in, tackle, smother, chase and have a never say die attitude at every contest no matter what the score. Like our previous great sides this needs to be non negotiable every week!

 

[hawk for 37]

Thompson and Rawlings requested trades, were not pushed out like Croad.

We were happy to facilitate.

 

[Tanami]

Really? What was the interview where Will Day gives the "impression" that Hardwick is the players choice of captain.

3 aw on Hardwicks 150 games.



IMO- A review will be done at end of year.

Strip the thing back.

Players that have been on the list for 3 years seem to be going backwards

why?

 

[Hawker399]

Whatever form we had in the 2nd half vs the pies didn’t carry over to the suns. Dunno what happens this week.

Is both teams best chance of a win. And loser will get a heap of media scrutiny. Would be highly disappointing if we don’t crack in.

Harry and Gunston likely come in but that’s largely short term fix.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

3 aw on Hardwicks 150 games.



IMO- A review will be done at end of year.

Strip the thing back.

Players that have been on the list for 3 years seem to be going backwards

why?

Were they going backwards last week?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I would of thought Roughy and Ratten being back at the club would have made a huge difference.

It hasn't.

Is the Captain the right person to inspire his team.

Will day interview on 3aw weeks back gave me the impression Hardwick is the players choice.

A loss to Clarko this week ....sheesh Sam better have broad shoulders.

There’s is almost zero chance Hardwick becomes captain. He’s not that guy.

He just rolls out each week and does his job(which is great), but he’s always last on the track(that’s fine), doesn’t have a great deal to say, has openly told Talking Hawks he’s been asked to improve in this area with youngsters around him and has never been part of the leadership group.