Current Trial Russell Hill & Carol Clay - Wonnangatta *Pilot Greg Lynn Pleads Not Guilty to Murder

[Kurve]

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On the Greg Lynn committal proceedings Crown Prosecutor Mr Dickie said 'It is clear hopefully from the document, and if it's not clear from the document it's clear hopefully from the charges put before the court, that it is alleged of course that the accused acted with murderous intent when he allegedly killed the two victims.'

 

[Kurve]

I am the only one coming forward, given the tone this forum takes I am not surprised no one is being more understanding.

Is this a troll?

 

[striker3]

You're the only person in here who's making the suggestion that they may have acted in the same way Greg Lynn did. Nobody else.

Lynn didn't just try to hide the bodies, he went back over and over to completely obliterate them, to make them unrecognisable as human remains.

It’s quite the commitment from someone who claims to have been an innocent bystander and the only witness to two deaths within minutes of each other.

The biggest hurdle in this case is the lack of evidence so far that corroborates his claims. On the flip side, there’s not a single piece of evidence I’ve seen that explains beyond reasonable doubt how two people died.

 

[alejandro]

It’s quite the commitment from someone who claims to have been an innocent bystander and the only witness to two deaths within minutes of each other.

The biggest hurdle in this case is the lack of evidence so far that corroborates his claims. On the flip side, there’s not a single piece of evidence I’ve seen that explains beyond reasonable doubt how two people died.

It’s on the Prosecution to prove his story isn’t true mate.

The evidence established Carol died by gunshot.

All the evidence shows Greg’s story is plausible, the chances he’s lied and that all lines up for him is slim, if he was lying they would have established that by now.

 

[striker3]

It’s on the Prosecution to prove his story isn’t true mate.

The evidence established Carol died by gunshot.

All the evidence shows Greg’s story is plausible, the chances he’s lied and that all lines up for him is slim, if he was lying they would have established that by now.

Yeh sorry I meant to say ‘who is responsible’, as opposed to how they died. It’s been a long day lol

 

[Terrafirma]

Your original comment that I replied to stated words to the effect “all GL had to do was come up with a story that fit the evidence, how handy”

I disproved that theory as it’s not possible GL knew what evidence the police had prior to him giving that ROI. I’m not interested in speculating about what he knew, or thought he knew, or fabricated between the incident and the arrest. It’s obvious his version of events is going to paint himself in the best possible light but he still didn’t know the evidence that the police had collected. Nor have the police at any stage been able to disprove any of his claims in a compelling manner.

The case isnt finished yet. And yes he still had time to come up with a version of events. He had a year. The mechanics of what happened maybe aligned with whats been heard and remember the Police have said they arent really sure on a lot of things so its possible he's aligned a story thats plausible just not true. Not sure what you are looking for but the case isnt finished yet. If its as bad as it looks to us the Prosecution will have failed badly. I think they truly believe he murdered at least Clay. Lynn has not made it easy by his actions after IMO

 

[Underarrest_]

Very little actual evidence surrounding how two people died based on what I saw in court today. The prosecution admits their case relies on the accused’s conduct after the deaths.

I won’t go into detail about what the judge, prosecutor and defence counsel spoke about after the jury were dismissed for the day but there is no evidence that can prove beyond reasonable doubt that two murders took place. I don’t care what people’s opinions are, you need to focus on the facts as they are admitted into court.

*EDIT: I should clarify; no evidence provided at this stage

Nothing to worry about then. The jury will decide on the evidence they have and any consideration for his actions after.

 

[Kurve]

It’s quite the commitment from someone who claims to have been an innocent bystander and the only witness to two deaths within minutes of each other.

The biggest hurdle in this case is the lack of evidence so far that corroborates his claims. On the flip side, there’s not a single piece of evidence I’ve seen that explains beyond reasonable doubt how two people died.

Lynn is an intelligent man, with a long career as a pilot in good standing and entrusted with the safety of hundreds of people every time he flies. The only reason for him not to have reported what happened, is because he was guilty of something and he didn't want the consequences. IMO.

Maybe he was illegally hunting, maybe he had illegal weapons in his car, maybe he sent a couple of shots through the victims campsite, we'll probably never know. The consequences of firearms offences alone, might mean the end of his career. Certainly he'd have all his firearms taken off him and it might even mean jail. That's without killing anybody.

I agree though, murder convictions might be difficult in these circumstances.

 

[blink185]

The case isnt finished yet. And yes he still had time to come up with a version of events. He had a year. The mechanics of what happened maybe aligned with whats been heard and remember the Police have said they arent really sure on a lot of things so its possible he's aligned a story thats plausible just not true. Not sure what you are looking for but the case isnt finished yet. If it’s as bad as it looks to us the Prosecution will have failed badly. I think they truly believe he murdered at least Clay. Lynn has not made it easy by his actions after IMO

$1.01 that Lynn is cooked and down for at least one murder, likely both.

He won’t ever be a free man again and that’s good enough for me.

 

[Badd0g]

Maybe the phone was in RH's pocket. GL threw him in the trailer in a hurry to get the hell out of dodge ASAP. Somewhere on the trip up to Grants HA it fell out of RH's pocket and it remained in the trailer.

He didn't notice it when he pulled out RH/CC from the trailer.


I really can't imagine a scenario where GL makes a conscious decision to take RH's phone with him while switched on inside the car. He surely would be aware that could link him to the disappearance.

He transported them in sleeping bags did he not? Not sure how a phone falls out of a pocket and then out of a sleeping bag.

 

[Terrafirma]

Lynn is an intelligent man, with a long career as a pilot in good standing and entrusted with the safety of hundreds of people every time he flies. The only reason for him not to have reported what happened, is because he was guilty of something and he didn't want the consequences. IMO.

Maybe he was illegally hunting, maybe he had illegal weapons in his car, maybe he sent a couple of shots through the victims campsite, we'll probably never know. The consequences of firearms offences alone, might mean the end of his career. Certainly he'd have all his firearms taken off him and it might even mean jail. That's without killing anybody.

I agree though, murder convictions might be difficult in these circumstances.

$1.01 that Lynn is cooked and down for at least one murder, likely both.

He won’t ever be a free man again and that’s good enough for me.

Can you quailfy thar statement? What have we missed?

 

[Terrafirma]

I was in the public gallery today and am curious to understand at what point would GL have known the evidence that the police had on him?

It appeared to me from today that his defence is centered around the ROI that was given in the days after his arrest, so I’m assuming at that stage he didn’t know what evidence the police had on him.

Yes you are correct my mistake. I havent seen the whole statement. I think the Police obviously told him some of what they had on him, cctv footage phone pings etc. But I still belueve he had all that time prior to arrest to fabricate a version of events that alugned with the mechanics of what happened, just not the truth. And so far no evidence to disprove what he says. There is more evidence coming and the case isnt finished. A lot of what Lynn is saying now wasnt necessarily said upon his arrest was it? Lets see how it plays out

 

[GardenGnome]

I find it surprising he didn't at least wait for a lawyer.

This event is a massive secret/burden he’d been carrying for months/a couple of years and by that point must’ve rehearsed his story hundreds of times.

Was possibly feeling confident that giving the impression of cooperating would work in his favour, and help to maintain his version of being an innocent bystander and witness to a tragic accident(s).

Possibly with the thought that calling a lawyer would make it appear as though he was hiding something (apart from the obvious hidden elements )

Either that or he just couldn’t hold it in any longer and was glad for the opportunity to get it all out in the open?

but yes, it does seem a bit surprising particularly now that he’s brought in the big guns with Dann.

 

[jason_recliner]

Genuinely curious and I know I’ll get blasted for asking - why do you still think he is lying at this point.

Greg knew nothing of the evidence they had on him at the time of the interview, the chances that his version of events can withstand scrutiny when he doesn’t have access to what they know is slim.

You are all quick to judge, but I don’t think many of you would have reacted any better if presented with the same scenario.

He’s admitted to burning the bodies, a crime itself, doesn’t make sense he would then also lie about the circumstances of their deaths.

If I was actually involved in the accidents he has concocted, I'd do everything I could to capture as much evidence of the events as possible and contact the authorities. No doubt in my mind.

 

[jason_recliner]

It’s on the Prosecution to prove his story isn’t true mate.

The evidence established Carol died by gunshot.

All the evidence shows Greg’s story is plausible, the chances he’s lied and that all lines up for him is slim, if he was lying they would have established that by now.

I've read some dumb stuff on here but this is right up there.

 

[alejandro]

I've read some dumb stuff on here but this is right up there.

Don’t think about it too hard honey you might hurt yourself.

 

[revo333]

GL volunteering that RH threatened him with police action doesn't exactly help his cause either.

Yes, makes it out the GL had a reason for him to be dead.

 

[revo333]

I am the only one coming forward, given the tone this forum takes I am not surprised no one is being more understanding.

Towards a guy who burned the bodies and then says 'It is what it is'?

 

[Sir_Loin]

I am the only one coming forward, given the tone this forum takes I am not surprised no one is being more understanding.

Dafuq?

 

[Sir_Loin]

Lynn is an intelligent man, with a long career as a pilot in good standing and entrusted with the safety of hundreds of people every time he flies. The only reason for him not to have reported what happened, is because he was guilty of something and he didn't want the consequences. IMO.

Maybe he was illegally hunting, maybe he had illegal weapons in his car, maybe he sent a couple of shots through the victims campsite, we'll probably never know. The consequences of firearms offences alone, might mean the end of his career. Certainly he'd have all his firearms taken off him and it might even mean jail. That's without killing anybody.

I agree though, murder convictions might be difficult in these circumstances.

Think we have to start discounting the pilot thing TBH. Couldn’t cut as a RAAF fighter pilot so let’s knock it on the head.

Just a frustrated middle aged white guy that loved killing animals. Is it any more than that? IMO.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Apparently, RH was extremely familiar with this shotgun and knew how to load and fire it. Well that doesn't make sense either. I've had some "tuition" in handling a semi-automatic shotgun and it looked nothing like this! This looks like some assault rifle, either that or a kiddy toy gun.

Despite RH being extremely wary of shotguns due to a family member being accidentally killed by one, he takes the most risky way to obtain (steal) and handle an unfamiliar shotgun, taking it from a hunter's vehicle, and then stupidly letting him know he has it by firing it in the air. And then (as you say) runs away with it still ready to fire in such a way that during a subsequent struggle with the shotgun's owner, Hill kills his own girlfriend with a fluke shot to the head.

There is no way in hell RH was familiar with this shotgun. Stop it with your bullshit posting please. You’re trolling now.

 

[Sir_Loin]

At his age that sentence would likely take him to the end of his own life.

Pity about the other two he accidentally saw the death of and then covered up their remains for multiple years.

How unlucky is this bloke.

 

[captain cotch 9]

Don't get me wrong. No doubt GL did the wrong thing and should probably go to jail for the rest of his life....
I just find it strange that people on here are finding it hard to believe his story.
Its more plausible than the prosecutions IMO.

 

[alejandro]

Towards a guy who burned the bodies and then says 'It is what it is'?

What’s more likely buddy, that GL blew two people away he didn’t know, throwing his life away in the process, or some miserable old campaigner who had a problem with authorities and hunters picked a fight with him because he didn’t like hunters and wanted someone alone to have an affair.

He was the architect of his own demise, and tragically Carol’s. All he had to do was mind his own business and cheat on his wife somewhere else.

You’ve been looking for the motive and it’s been on him the whole time.

IMO of course

 

[jason_recliner]

Don’t think about it too hard honey you might hurt yourself.

What evidence shows his story is "plausible"?

 

[Percel]

Genuinely curious and I know I’ll get blasted for asking - why do you still think he is lying at this point.

Greg knew nothing of the evidence they had on him at the time of the interview, the chances that his version of events can withstand scrutiny when he doesn’t have access to what they know is slim.

You are all quick to judge, but I don’t think many of you would have reacted any better if presented with the same scenario.

He’s admitted to burning the bodies, a crime itself, doesn’t make sense he would then also lie about the circumstances of their deaths.

Would you destroy every bit of evidence that may in fact help you?

And would you go to the extraordinary measures he has ?